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Grouchio posted:Bill and Hilary Clinton
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1240108864604962816 Can we institute clock-drawing tests for voting?
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Mar 18, 2020 04:23
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Grouchio posted:NEWMAN WINS!
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Mar 18, 2020 04:24
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gandlethorpe posted:Who is even the highest up, longest-serving, under-45 person in politics with decent progressive cred? Two-term rep Ro Khanna? Ro Khanna ran as a centrist pro-tech guy. He's pulled a Gillibrand and flipped pretty hard to a mostly solid progressive. The longest serving House rep with progressive cred was Pete Stark... who was primaried out of office and died two months ago. Chris Murphy and Martin Heinrich are in their 40's with decent progressive cred and more than 10 years of experience. They are both complete unknowns at the national level, though.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:25
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The massively old Democratic primary electorate in Illinois looks like they are knocking out two Democratic incumbents (one of whom was one of the most conservative House Dems) in favor of Progressive challengers. Who besides Newman?
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Mar 18, 2020 04:27
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gandlethorpe posted:Can we institute clock-drawing tests for voting? Supporting something in a poll doesn't mean that it is your primary issue or even an issue that determines your vote. Otherwise, the ~70% of the country that supports tougher gun laws would destroy every Republican and a handful of pro-gun Dems in every election.
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1240108864604962816 They would sooner start a civil war than support single payer healthcare. Even after their lord and savior came out in favor of cutting checks to the people, you still have the biggest boot lickers like Graham coming out in opposition to the $1k check that Trump desperately needs for re-election.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:27
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Dr Christmas posted:All the Boomers who turned out for Biden are not online. If Twitter metrics were representative of the population, Bernie would be kicking Biden's rear end. There is an echelon of Democrat somewhere above the primary voter but way below what we usually consider "the establishment" that nevertheless strongly identifies with that establishment. And while you will never hear of them they are very active in the party and vote for representatives to the DNC and they are why people like e.g. Tom Perez get elected chair. It's probably more important to turf those fuckers out than it is people like Neera Tanden, although far less glorious. (But also easier.)
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Mar 18, 2020 04:29
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Concerned Citizen posted:Who besides Newman? Foster was losing earlier, but I just checked and he's now up 6 points and projected to win
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Mar 18, 2020 04:29
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LinYutang posted:The current progressive bench is extremely weak outside of their Twitter celebrity.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:31
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Pop quiz: who decides when states hold primary elections and whether or not they should be delayed? Hint: except in edge cases like the ND firehouse caucuses, it is *not* the DNC.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:33
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:The Democratic bench is extremely weak in the general case, idiot. This is correct. They blew their load of big names with Obama, Clinton, Warren, Sanders, and Biden. But, there's plenty of people (including Sanders in 16) who come out of relative obscurity to a strong primary campaign. Having no clear front-runner 4 years out isn't necessarily a huge deal.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:33
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Foster was losing earlier, but I just checked and he's now up 6 points and projected to win nah, foster just won
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Mar 18, 2020 04:36
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I wish Russ Feingold would come back to running for office with a vengeance. He's "only" 67 but has a solid history of not voting for lovely things.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:39
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Biden campaign official didn't say who they were looking at for VP, but a reporter tossed out a bunch of names and these were the ones that they said they would be open to:quote:Gretchen Whitmer They also said that they would be open to Michelle Obama or Jill Biden, but as a a joke. Some very dark horse candidates on that list. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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Mar 18, 2020 04:40
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gandlethorpe posted:I wish Russ Feingold would come back to running for office with a vengeance. He's "only" 67 but has a solid history of not voting for lovely things. He did in 2016 and got beaten by Ron Johnson.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:41
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gandlethorpe posted:I wish Russ Feingold would come back to running for office with a vengeance. He's "only" 67 but has a solid history of not voting for lovely things. He ran behind Hillary in 2016. He is done.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:41
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden campaign official didn't say who they were looking at for VP, but a reporter tossed out a bunch of names and these were the ones that they said they would be open to: I look forward to him not remembering his running mate's name. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He did in 2016 and got beaten by Ron Johnson. I'm aware of that and don't like to think about it. I was hoping he could still make a comeback.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:43
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden campaign official didn't say who they were looking at for VP, but a reporter tossed out a bunch of names and these were the ones that they said they would be open to: How would Whitmer play in Michigan? Would it be enough to flip it back?
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Mar 18, 2020 04:49
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Biden campaign official didn't say who they were looking at for VP, but a reporter tossed out a bunch of names and these were the ones that they said they would be open to: Michelle Lujan Grisham actually looks like a surprisingly good Dark Horse candidate. Was doing climate activism before it was cool, fought to amend the constitution to get rid of pro-life amendments, got a $12 minimum wage passed in 2014, passed some strong gun bills, expanded Medicaid, is a Hispanic and native American woman.
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Mar 18, 2020 04:50
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Ogmius815 posted:Pop quiz: who decides when states hold primary elections and whether or not they should be delayed? ogmius you know that political entities have more power than explicit hierarchies right
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Mar 18, 2020 04:54
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MJeff posted:How would Whitmer play in Michigan? Would it be enough to flip it back? Most recent poll I could find shows that Michigan feels okay about her, but is souring on Trump. She had a 43/35 Approval/Disapproval about a month and a half ago. I have no idea how she "plays" in Michigan. She's fairly new to the executive scene. She was a backbencher in the house for a while, but ended up leading the Senate Dems. She's very liberal on "lunch pail issues" - favors full and free kindergarten and pre-k, cap childcare expenses for families, go fairly hard against pharmaceutical companies, and raise the gas tax to fund transportation projects. On all the other issues, she's basically "generic Democrat."
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Mar 18, 2020 05:01
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LinYutang posted:Seems like Bernie would have better spent his time cultivating a viable 2020 candidate instead of trying to win the primary with 35% support. The current progressive bench is extremely weak outside of their Twitter celebrity. Who?
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Mar 18, 2020 05:09
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brugroffil posted:Lol at free elections after four more years of Republican dominance and court supermajorities Yeah but who cares about congress? lol
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Mar 18, 2020 05:10
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Oh well. At least we'll probably win in 2024. If we make it to 2024. If we make it to November because drat corona is busy as poo poo.
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Mar 18, 2020 05:18
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Warren fumbling so hard is a total disaster for the left. Who the gently caress are we going to run now?
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Mar 18, 2020 05:21
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Oh well. At least we'll probably win in 2024. If we make it to 2024. lol who is we? i ain't voting for a death cult
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MixMasterMalaria posted:Warren fumbling so hard is a total disaster for the left. Who the gently caress are we going to run now? 2024: Howard Schultz of Starbucks or Chelsea 2028: An 84 year old John Kerry who has a lot of appeal with the last of the elderly, or, again, Chelsea. 2028: Just Chelsea.
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Mar 18, 2020 05:26
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shadow puppet of a posted:2024: Howard Schultz of Starbucks or Chelsea Two elections in 2028? Anyway, whoever runs in 2032 is going to be vulnerable to a Malia primary in 2036.
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Mar 18, 2020 05:35
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Not a fan of Bill, but I disagree. Also disagree on Hillary actually, but honestly they're all so lovely that it seems pointless trying to argue which one is worse. Yeah, I'd say both Bill and Hillary are both slightly to the left of Joe Biden, if only because neither complimented segregationists once they were out of high school.
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Mar 18, 2020 05:42
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Probably Magic posted:Yeah, I'd say both Bill and Hillary are both slightly to the left of Joe Biden, if only because neither complimented segregationists once they were out of high school. They had slaves in the governor's mansion, though
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Mar 18, 2020 05:47
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Chris Murphy and Martin Heinrich are in their 40's with decent progressive cred and more than 10 years of experience. They are both complete unknowns at the national level, though. I realize the question has left you grasping at straws, but even if Murphy is as far left as CT could produce, he's still a third-way supporting senator beholden to the strong finance, insurance, pharma, and military special interests in his state. He's managed to gain a little traction with national recognition due to his gun control stance (was formerly the rep from Sandy Hook's district). Heinrich's pretty off the radar (aside from his high rating on sexycongress.net) but his past stances against gay marriage, endorsements from the NRA, and his votes for Trump appointees leaves him looking like at best a johhny-come-lately to progressive ideas and as worst an opportunist who supports progressive looking bills when it will help his approval ratings.
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Mar 18, 2020 05:49
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gandlethorpe posted:Who is even the highest up, longest-serving, under-45 person in politics with decent progressive cred? Two-term rep Ro Khanna? Probably Ruben Gallego or Brendan Boyle.
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I'm sure someone will pop up between now and 2024. As much as some posters itt talk down about Bernie not having done this right or that right, he's really done a lot to get it into people's heads that things aren't right in this country and I personally think he succeeded so I'm not too worried that we've run out of candidates. I mean, poo poo. Pete did surprisingly well at first and he's a loving nobody goblin.
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Mar 18, 2020 06:00
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MixMasterMalaria posted:Warren fumbling so hard is a total disaster for the left. Who the gently caress are we going to run now?
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Could always go back to Jill Stein lol
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Vermin Supreme
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Mar 18, 2020 06:09
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Apogee15 posted:Could always go back to Jill Stein lol getting jill stein to federal funding levels would drive this forum insane so i'm all for it
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Mar 18, 2020 06:13
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Ogmius815 posted:Pop quiz: who decides when states hold primary elections and whether or not they should be delayed? They threatened all the other states left to have their primaries that they'd revoke delegates if they pushed their primaries back.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:But, there's plenty of people (including Sanders in 16) who come out of relative obscurity to a strong primary campaign. So we're left with, like, loving Joe Kennedy or some poo poo - I dunno.
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