jubjub64 posted:

Have any Index owners had problems getting their headset cameras to work? I've tried resetting the usb devices in developer settings and I can sometimes get the cameras to show up in windows camera app but Steam VR always says that there was a problem.

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cargohills posted:

Thanks all for the help. Since it seems pretty difficult to get a decent cable for the Quest in the UK, I don't particularly care about portability and I'm not even sure if my PC has USB-C I think I'll grab the Rift S when I'm eventually buying. Will keep in mind the advice re: plano lenses, spacers, etc - if I'm having real trouble getting my glasses in I'll just get something like that. Maybe one of the prescription lens sets would help in that case although that might be going a bit too far.

Hope this poo poo isn't all out of stock because of the virus by the time I have the money!

cargohills posted:

Thanks all for the help. Since it seems pretty difficult to get a decent cable for the Quest in the UK, I don't particularly care about portability and I'm not even sure if my PC has USB-C I think I'll grab the Rift S when I'm eventually buying. Will keep in mind the advice re: plano lenses, spacers, etc - if I'm having real trouble getting my glasses in I'll just get something like that. Maybe one of the prescription lens sets would help in that case although that might be going a bit too far.

Hope this poo poo isn't all out of stock because of the virus by the time I have the money!

jubjub64 posted:

So apparently I have really prominent cheekbones/cheekfat that makes the Index face gasket not sit properly on my face. This causes my eyes to move out of the sweet spot. To fix this, without destructively modifying the face gasket, I Frankensteined this together from an OG Rift VRCover, some cloth and some adhesive velcro. I'm gonna buy some additional face gaskets in the future so that I can permanently modify one for myself but for now this ghetto-fabulous mod offsets my forehead so that I stay in that sweet, sweet, sweet-spot. Thank you for your time.

Tip posted:

Looks like Valve is making quick work of these orders. When I initially ordered it said 6-8 weeks, then it became the 5-7 weeks shown above, and now it says 3-5 weeks.

Thoatse posted:

I stacked 6mm of neodymium magnets at the top mounts for this reason

Neddy Seagoon posted:

It is fundamentally a 2D display that you touch to interact with for brief tasks. It's not gonna matter a whole lot if your finger dips through it briefly, and it's way more convenient to be able to have something you can place and forget rather than having to physically dig out a phone and look at it. Basically Oculus Dashboard or OVRToolkit, but with touchscreen interaction.

A peripheral for this would be just an expensive toy doing an cheap job less effectively; For Oculus, has to recognize and track a third object (along with being able to parse "third object in first/second object wrapped around it" so you get more processor overhead. Not a great thing for the Quest. On the Lighthouse side that means sensors, and it won't be cheap once you factor in the processor and battery even using an HDK, to a tune of probably like $100+ USD. Not to mention just juggling this peripheral around your controllers if you're wearing/using some.

Mr Phillby posted:

This is such a bizzare argument to me, plenty of games already have virtual touchscreen interfaces and they're awkward as poo poo things you poke at with your whole hand. I'd love a an actual tangible surface I could stow in my pocket and whip out when needed for text entry/menus. Id use the already established muscle memory from using my phone and the conrollers are tied to my wrist so i can just drop them to free my hand and whip them back again. You could hook it into apps outside the game and let you use it like you would a real smart phone without interupting gameplay.

Also if I cared about the practicallity and efficiency of the peripherals and tech involved I wouldn't be playing vr games in the first place lol.

Bad Munki posted:

I take it Unity is my best bet for getting into programming VR stuff for this Index I've got now?

I mentioned it before, but I'm specifically interested in some data visualization. Never messed with Unity in my life, so I know there'll be a long learning curve there, but I'm hoping the road from zero to "I can put on my HMD and look at a constructed model of some data" isn't TOO terrible long. Or is there perhaps a more direct route to my goal here?

Turin Turambar posted:

And Papa Gaber talking of Alyx with Ign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zXkwLs_lo

Bad Munki posted:

I'm a software engineer by trade, and for the last, oh I don't know how long, some number of years, 99% of my work has been in python. If I were able to stick with that? Holy poo poo, that'd be amazing, since it's extremely well-suited for this sort of work.

As for the data itself, no, it's not secret or sensitive, in fact it's all publicly available via an API my team produced. In this particular case, I'm interested in visualizing InSAR (Interferometric Synthetic Aperture Radar) baseline stacks. It's really just a couple axes of data, one being temporal and the other being physical, but I have some notions of very interesting (to me and probably my peers) approaches for looking at that data that really isn't possible in other contexts. Right now we're stuck with 2d Persistent Scatter plots, and maybe a Short Baseline approach that is just the PS plot with connections to N nearest neighbors, but I have this idea of viewing it as a repeating cycle of data, think a single or double helix representing a timeline and an offset from the center as the other axis (perpendicular baseline)...

Like, that's a lot of word salad there, but I think the super-simplified version is "I want to take a scatter plot on a temporal and physical axis and roll it into a helix" and then add in all the natural filtering and selecting that that would make obvious.

It'd be SO much easier to describe this on a whiteboard, ha. Which is sort of a testament in itself to the validity of the goal here, I guess.

punished milkman posted:

this was a pretty interesting watch. Had no idea Gabe had gone so deep down the brain-computer interface rabbit hole. It's hard for me to imagine anything actually coming of it (pre-order the valve brain-jack now!! ) but it's cool that he's been tinkering in that field.

jubjub64 posted:

Hey, I like that! And I think I have some well sized magnets around here somewhere...

Thoatse posted:

Here's a pic for anyone that might not have visualized how the Index facial interface works and how easily it can be dialed for their face. I think mine were 6x3mm, two on each upper mount. Might even throw another on it but 6mm was a big improvement on already good ergonomics. I don't have particularly high cheekbones, just found I needed to tilt it a bit fwd to get a better sweet spot which made it dig in. Seemed like many had the same discomfort for the same reason but it's easy to adjust.

Warbird posted:

Pistol whip is a fun little power fantasy. I’d be interested to see what sort of flubbing they do on the aiming. They’re clearly fudging things a bit but it results in a super fun Johnny Wick sort of experience.

Turin Turambar posted:

A few games news/trailers for Oculus here
https://www.oculus.com/blog/game-news-pistol-whip-update-echo-vr-closed-alpha-and-more/

deep dish peat moss posted:

Okay so, I just had a phenomenally weird and sort of life-changing experience with VR and I feel the need to post about it.

Turin Turambar posted:

update for SteamVR

SteamVR:
Add a distance slider for room scale chaperone bounds sensitivity.

quote:

The game by For Fun Labs released in December 2017 on the Oculus Store for Rift and in June 2016 on Steam. Since then, For Fun Labs sold 28,000 copies on the Oculus Store for Facebook’s PC VR headsets Rift and Rift S, and more than 50,000 copies on Steam. Update: For Fun Labs explained that, although the game includes cross-buy with the Rift version of the game available from Oculus, based on their data they are sure more than 12,000 copies sold for Quest.

deep dish peat moss posted:

Okay so, I just had a phenomenally weird and sort of life-changing experience with VR and I feel the need to post about it.

Some backstory:
I have a type of lazy eye called a Refractive Amblyopia - the short version is that one of my eyes doesn't correctly refract light which causes pretty severe effects to its vision. My anecdotal version is that ever since I was a little kid, it was as if my right eye didn't really exist within my conscious field of vision. When both of my eyes are open, my brain subconsciously filters out my right eye's vision - I'm still somewhat aware of things like peripheral vision on my right side, but I don't actively "see" anything out of my right eye - when both eyes are open. If I close my left eye, I can see out of my right eye, but everything is very blurry (like, can barely read giant text right in front of my eyes), rather dark without much contrast, and altogether unreliable.

It's been this way since I was born so I've never had much of a frame of reference for what normal binocular vision is like. (You might think you know where this story is going, but you're wrong because no I'm sorry VR did not allow me to experience binocular vision.)

So on to VR; I got a PSVR a few months ago with my tax return money because why not. I bought a handful of games, I've played them, had fun, all in all it's been a good time. Tonight I noticed that there was a sale on the PSN so I bought Farpoint because I've heard good things about it and felt like exploring an alien world and shooting at the aliens on it. For some reason I had a tough time calibrating the camera/play area with it, so as I was playing through the little tutorial stage I was just sort of having a hard time looking at things, it was a little shaky and weird. After a brief walking simulator audiolog segment the game pops up with a short description of the assault rifle you're holding. After that I started messing with it, getting used to the holo sight on it, you know, normal VR things.

The holo sight in particular was really blurry and it was starting to frustrate me, at some point of looking down at it I closed my left (good) eye and looked through my right eye. Holy poo poo.

All along VR has felt a little blurry to me, it made it feel video-gamey (in fact I posted on either this page or the last I think about this), just a liiiitle off in a way that I couldn't quite describe. What I found out in that moment is that my eyes seem to be reversed in VR. If I close my left eye and look only through the right? Crystal clear. I mean, it looked so good I spent a good few minutes staring at the smoke rising in the background while my mind struggled to comprehend the moment - not only did it look "real" but it was the first time in my life I had ever seen anything with such clarity through my right eye. So I walked around a little and looked at some things up close and, I mean, same exact thing. Perfect clarity through my eye that is usually so bad that I don't feel safe driving.

Only a few minutes was a little overwhelming and I took the headset off and rushed here to post this, I still feel a weird feeling like subconsciously expecting my right eye to work in real life. It doesn't, and this is getting way out there with my theories but I feel like this could actually help my vision overall. One of the main treatments for this condition is to wear an eye patch over the good eye to force the bad eye to pick up the slack, this was historically thought to only work on children (and I was a bad kid who took the eyepatch off as soon as adults weren't around, which is exactly why most children don't properly treat this condition) but recent research has showed that it can be effective on adults, if not debilitating to their day to wear a patch. Anyway I'm not going to wear a patch but I'm going to keep making my bad eye look at things in VR and maybe my brain will convince it to be less bad In the meantime I feel really weird. How bizarre


Edit: In fact there are companies treating this very disability with the help of VR https://www.seevividly.com/
whatta world

deep dish peat moss posted:

All along VR has felt a little blurry to me, it made it feel video-gamey (in fact I posted on either this page or the last I think about this), just a liiiitle off in a way that I couldn't quite describe. What I found out in that moment is that my eyes seem to be reversed in VR. If I close my left eye and look only through the right? Crystal clear. I mean, it looked so good I spent a good few minutes staring at the smoke rising in the background while my mind struggled to comprehend the moment - not only did it look "real" but it was the first time in my life I had ever seen anything with such clarity through my right eye. So I walked around a little and looked at some things up close and, I mean, same exact thing. Perfect clarity through my eye that is usually so bad that I don't feel safe driving.

Only a few minutes was a little overwhelming and I took the headset off and rushed here to post this, I still feel a weird feeling like subconsciously expecting my right eye to work in real life. It doesn't, and this is getting way out there with my theories but I feel like this could actually help my vision overall. One of the main treatments for this condition is to wear an eye patch over the good eye to force the bad eye to pick up the slack, this was historically thought to only work on children (and I was a bad kid who took the eyepatch off as soon as adults weren't around, which is exactly why most children don't properly treat this condition) but recent research has showed that it can be effective on adults, if not debilitating to their day to wear a patch. Anyway I'm not going to wear a patch but I'm going to keep making my bad eye look at things in VR and maybe my brain will convince it to be less bad In the meantime I feel really weird. How bizarre


Edit: In fact there are companies treating this very disability with the help of VR https://www.seevividly.com/
whatta world

Bad Munki posted:

I'm a software engineer by trade, and for the last, oh I don't know how long, some number of years, 99% of my work has been in python. If I were able to stick with that? Holy poo poo, that'd be amazing, since it's extremely well-suited for this sort of work.

As for the data itself, no, it's not secret or sensitive, in fact it's all publicly available via an API my team produced. In this particular case, I'm interested in visualizing InSAR (Interferometric Synthetic Aperture Radar) baseline stacks. It's really just a couple axes of data, one being temporal and the other being physical, but I have some notions of very interesting (to me and probably my peers) approaches for looking at that data that really isn't possible in other contexts. Right now we're stuck with 2d Persistent Scatter plots, and maybe a Short Baseline approach that is just the PS plot with connections to N nearest neighbors, but I have this idea of viewing it as a repeating cycle of data, think a single or double helix representing a timeline and an offset from the center as the other axis (perpendicular baseline)...

Like, that's a lot of word salad there, but I think the super-simplified version is "I want to take a scatter plot on a temporal and physical axis and roll it into a helix" and then add in all the natural filtering and selecting that that would make obvious.

It'd be SO much easier to describe this on a whiteboard, ha. Which is sort of a testament in itself to the validity of the goal here, I guess.

Hadlock posted:

This is super cool

I think once you've had a full night to sleep on it, would like to get your impressions and hear more, especially after 2-3 days

Based on that other guy's post sounds like it's super helpful

Please follow up thx

Warbird posted:

VRTK is a decent option as well, but stick with what you think will work. I’m only just getting back in to VR programming and things have changed a ton in the last couple of years. I wasn’t super impressed with Unity’s escape room project tbh. Regardless feel free to blog your progress I’m interested to see how it shakes out.

deep dish peat moss posted: