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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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| A. Rayner |
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| I. Murray |
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| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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Just got an email from our site boss, he wants to lock up all our facemasks and gloves so no one steals them but things will keep going(paraphrasing) "as normal to minimise the impact on the business". He can work from home so that's good I guess. Love having some political thoughts really crystalise over this pandemic 
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Regarde Aduck posted:Why is that? The ICU's haven't failed yet. Are our olds just really unhealthy compared to the continent? I can really see it being that. We've stopped community testing, and are now only testing people presenting at hospitals with severe symptoms. The recorded mortality rate is going up because we're only testing the people most likely to die.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:51
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Is there a decent, concise source of information which will make people start taking this loving thing seriously? My office (which has today, thankfully, shut) yesterday was full of people chortling about how they're safe / it's just a bad cold etc., and there was, I poo poo you not, a whole table full of communal snacks and treats laid out in the kitchen which everyone was cheerfully helping themselves to... All while the entire planet is shutting down, and every government in the world, even loving OURS, is telling people to stay the gently caress away from each other. Similarly, we had a family get together planned for this weekend, and my wife and I figured that we probably shouldn't go... The rest of my family, however, are still going ahead (and still planning on going out for a meal) on the basis of 'well we're all sensible intelligent people, and have pragmatically decided that WE can just do what we want because obviously it's safe.' The problem is, people don't respond well if you try and honestly explain why life CAN'T go on as normal, and why they CANT just carry on doing what they want... They feel attacked, patronised, belittled, insulted... Ugh, sorry for the rant... Any links, vids etc which have a proven track record of being able to get through to people would be hugely appreciated.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:54
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OwlFancier posted:Yes, but that still raises the question of why deaths are going up very quickly. As I pointed out before, the UK* is spectacularly crowded compared to other countries in its weight class. We were always going to have a higher rate of infection than, say, Italy. Almost 1% of the population of the entire country goes through Waterloo station every day, and on a normal day more than 1% of the country would be on the London Underground in the next half hour or so. Incidentally is there any data yet on how much climate affects the virus? This cold, damp country is normally party time for respiratory infections. * Glancing at a map you might be tempted to say "Well actually England is crowded, the rest of the UK has loads of elbow room" but in Scotland people outside the Lowlands are basically a rounding error, and 20% of the population lives in Greater Glasgow. In Wales basically the entire population is crammed into the strip on the south coast, and almost a third of the population is accounted for by Cardiff, Swansea, and the Rhondda Valley. Almost half of the population of Northern Ireland is in Greater Belfast. Industrialisation and then deindustrialisation has basically turned the UK into a series of petri dishes with gently caress-all between them.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:57
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It's still so surreal that having never really left my corner of the UK which is apparently one of the least populous parts, I have a wildly different view of what the UK is like.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:01
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The Perfect Element posted:Is there a decent, concise source of information which will make people start taking this loving thing seriously? My office (which has today, thankfully, shut) yesterday was full of people chortling about how they're safe / it's just a bad cold etc., and there was, I poo poo you not, a whole table full of communal snacks and treats laid out in the kitchen which everyone was cheerfully helping themselves to... All while the entire planet is shutting down, and every government in the world, even loving OURS, is telling people to stay the gently caress away from each other. Unfortunately, we're probably going to have to wait until somebody famous (by which I mean front page of the Sun famous) dies of it for many people to take it seriously. My area is a prime example. We have a lot of second homes and no official infections, so we've been innundated with people coming in to the area and treating the whole thing as a big holiday. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-51937753
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Mar 18, 2020 09:02
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Soylent Yellow posted:We have a lot of second homes and no official infections, so we've been innundated with people coming in to the area and treating the whole thing as a big holiday.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:06
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OwlFancier posted:It's still so surreal that having never really left my corner of the UK which is apparently one of the least populous parts, I have a wildly different view of what the UK is like. OwlFancier watching the first five minutes of 28 Days Later: "loving hell, must be the rush hour I've heard so much about in That London".
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Mar 18, 2020 09:09
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It is impressive/terrifying how far ahead of the curve London is. We’ve got multiple COVID wards, and better yet a good number of the patients I’m treating picked it up inside the hospital. My contract ends shortly and I don’t think I have the resolve to see this through. I don’t think I can cope with the added trauma, especially when it feels like we’ve been left to rot both locally and nationally. Pretty selfish regardless, right?
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Mar 18, 2020 09:09
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Borrovan posted:I'm not saying that you should commit arson, but, "Red sky at night, shepherd's delight. Red sky in the morning, Englishman's holiday home on fire" -traditional welsh proverb.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:12
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goddamnedtwisto posted:OwlFancier watching the first five minutes of 28 Days Later: "loving hell, must be the rush hour I've heard so much about in That London". No lie, while I know it's unthinkable for london, just the general image of urban areas being deserted to me is just "yeah it's after five, it does that"
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Mar 18, 2020 09:16
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OwlFancier posted:No lie, while I know it's unthinkable for london, just the general image of urban areas being deserted to me is just "yeah it's after five, it does that" The absolute wildest thing about this to me is that if I ever see a high street with no people I just assume the world has ended, and yet I still have far more in common with you than basically anyone who lives in Zone 1 in London.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:20
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OwlFancier posted:No lie, while I know it's unthinkable for london, just the general image of urban areas being deserted to me is just "yeah it's after five, it does that" My road at 3am on any day would be "oh god something has happened, why is everyone up" in your area
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Mar 18, 2020 09:20
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I live in Zone 1 and every day is like Sunday morning now. It's kinda ominous.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:23
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OwlFancier posted:No lie, while I know it's unthinkable for london, just the general image of urban areas being deserted to me is just "yeah it's after five, it does that" If anything that opening of 28 Days Later is way scarier to me than any of the later scenes. Back when it first opened I would avoid the shopping area under Canary Wharf (and Canary Wharf tube station itself) at weekends because they were deserted, and being the only person in an area designed for thousands of people is really loving weird and agoraphobia-inducing in a way that's impossible to explain to a non-city-dweller.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:23
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OwlFancier posted:It's still so surreal that having never really left my corner of the UK which is apparently one of the least populous parts, I have a wildly different view of what the UK is like. Same. I’m in Aberdeen, which is the only other part of Scotland with any significant population, and even that isn’t very busy. Aberdeen population density : 1.1k/sq km Glasgow : 3.4k/sq km London : 4.5k/sq km
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Mar 18, 2020 09:24
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Oodles posted:Same. I’m in Aberdeen, which is the only other part of Scotland with any significant population, and even that isn’t very busy. And even that number is deeply skewed by the suburbs and green belt - Inner London is nearer 10k, and as I've mentioned enough for people to get bored with, if the new buildings south of Canary Wharf are ever occupied (the first one is coming onto the market April 1, great timing) the square kilometre between Middle Dock and Millwall Outer Dock will have over 100k people living there.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:28
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Necrothatcher posted:I live in Zone 1 and every day is like Sunday morning now. It's kinda ominous. I apologise for generalising about everyone in zone 1 (zone 2 4 lyfe)
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Mar 18, 2020 09:33
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It has gotten a lot quieter here at the moment. No-one appears to be up. Zone 2/3 Crew!
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Mar 18, 2020 09:36
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If anything that opening of 28 Days Later is way scarier to me than any of the later scenes. Back when it first opened I would avoid the shopping area under Canary Wharf (and Canary Wharf tube station itself) at weekends because they were deserted, and being the only person in an area designed for thousands of people is really loving weird and agoraphobia-inducing in a way that's impossible to explain to a non-city-dweller. Well that's the thing, it's quite normal to me to see that. A lot of our town center was built for when the town had about 30 thousand more people living in it. Since then it's depopulated and the general die off of the high street and you quite often see infrastructure that's clearly designed to be rammed being a lot less busy. It can get busy, but most of the time it's a lot emptier than it probably "should" be. But by the same token I like that, it's a very comfortable people:space proportion for me, which is visible when I go to edinburgh and loving hate it because it's all people and buildings and cars 24/7 and it's all rammed into not enough space. Especially the pedestrianized sections of boro I really like, cos it's not too big to the point it feels weird, but the streets are really wide and it scales very well, so even if it's a busy day it's not uncomfortable. I think more than anything that's something that makes me like pedestrianized areas, with big pavements and minimal car access. To me that's what I think of when I think of human scaled spaces, cities are very oppressive, but I don't feel any more out of place in town centers than I do on the moor or wherever. It feels like at some point you just hit like a critical mass of people rammed into one place and it gets... really unpleasant. I don't know if it's claustrophobia, it's just draining in a way I can't really describe, I feel like... the world was meant to be empty, I guess. Empty human built places don't bother me at all, any more than empty natural spaces do, but crowded spaces do. It's also funny living in a place that was built more or less from the ground up because of the railway. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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Mar 18, 2020 09:40
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Josef bugman posted:Zone 2/3 Crew! Lol look at this pretender trying to get the best of both. Zone 3 is where it's at pick a side
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Mar 18, 2020 09:44
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All of the casual staff and FTC folks got let go / not renewed yesterday, which is something like 60% of our workforce. It's going to be tough for them given that they cant just walk next door to pick up some hours because loving everything is closed. Building is sealed up except to my department to keep things ticking over and the security guys. Its kind of eerie with all the offices deserted and the place being so quiet. It's planned to be like this for 4 weeks and then reviewed but it feels like its going to drag on forever. Stay safe london goons.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:47
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Got in the supermarket at the crack to pick some things up and they were already down to the wire on loo roll and pasta, and cleared out of soap and paracetamol. I assume this means they just didn't get restocked since the car park isn't nearly busy enough to support that kind of mad scramble in the first five minutes of opening so... perhaps actually a good sign that there was still some left over from yesterday? I've also suddenly developed a severe intolerance to something and am spending half of every day on the loo, which is really just fantastic timing by my stupid piece of poo poo body, thanks very much for that.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:52
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London can gently caress off imo
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Mar 18, 2020 09:56
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Jose posted:London can gently caress off imo Come live on the south coast/best coast, there’s nothing like the wide open spaces and small, sparsely populated cities
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Mar 18, 2020 09:59
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TACD posted:I've also suddenly developed a severe intolerance to something and am spending half of every day on the loo, which is really just fantastic timing by my stupid piece of poo poo body, thanks very much for that. In my experience a lack of toilet roll causes diarrhoea. Could be that?
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Mar 18, 2020 09:59
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crispix posted:Why do people go to gyms anyway. House weights are good. You can lift them in your pants and watch TV in comfort. No people to judge you and no mirrors anywhere so you don't have to see your own disgusting, straining face Few reasons. - They have lots of equipment that's incredibly expensive to buy and there's only so much you can do with dumb bells. - Work out classes. - It provides a place I feel compelled to actually put in an effort once I'm there and the fact I'm paying for it compels me to go. - House exercise I found I put in barely any effort and often forgot i was working out between sets while watching tv.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:59
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Just lol if you're still going to gyms, the filthiest place on earth.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:04
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Necrothatcher posted:Rub Rabbits on DS  goddamnedtwisto posted:And even that number is deeply skewed by the suburbs and green belt - Inner London is nearer 10k, and as I've mentioned enough for people to get bored with, if the new buildings south of Canary Wharf are ever occupied (the first one is coming onto the market April 1, great timing) the square kilometre between Middle Dock and Millwall Outer Dock will have over 100k people living there. We're at about 500 people/sq km (or 2 people per acre in non city people units), and it still feels too much with the number of houses and loss of green space and resource strain. There's areas that get crowded too but I think that's city people come to stare at our bridge and vegetables.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:04
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It still sort of feels like Corbyn is the 'real' PM doesn't it? Boris has hosed it, the leadership candidates (except Burgon) have all flopped, the Tories are privately admitting that Labour's manifesto is basically the only thing that can save us and once again JC is looking like the only adult in the room. The prospect of him leaving in the middle of all this is a terrifying thought.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:05
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Yeah I really don't think him leaving is going to be helpful right now. I especially dread what mush brained starmer would be doing.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:08
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Guavanaut posted:We're at about 500 people/sq km (or 2 people per acre in non city people units), and it still feels too much with the number of houses and loss of green space and resource strain. There's areas that get crowded too but I think that's city people come to stare at our bridge and vegetables. If you want to avoid the loss of green space it's either cramming more people into the same space or killing people. e: Also: Guavanaut posted:
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Mar 18, 2020 10:08
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I think we know which one the government has decided on with their 'lack of testing means it isn't happening' plan.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:12
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HopperUK posted:One guy today asked if we could text him when we get more hand sanitizer in. No. No we cannot. Read in the local news that they have done tests and regularly washing your hands with hard bar soap is the best way to kill corona. Dry hard bar soap is apparently more effective than liquid soap.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:18
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Feeling pretty vindicated in my bulk purchase of carbolic soap last year.
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Mar 18, 2020 10:33
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When Attenborough dies that will sink in. Shame more people will mourn him on social media than pick up the phone and chat to their nan. Feel dreadful today, maybe 4 days in? Keep losing track oftime. Have this obsessive thought that this must be what wearing cardassian makeup all day is, my neck and shoulders have seized up, my heads split in two, keep coughing all the time, I'm hot as gently caress. Thought the symptoms were easing off yesterday but nope. also getting bored of telling people I think I have it then them asking if I've been tested and having to explain you only get tested if you're in hospital
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Mar 18, 2020 10:33
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Mar 18, 2020 10:39
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Lmao someone put a social distancing notice up on a meeting room door while the room was packed full of people It also talks about leaving spaces between computers for safety but there are way too many people for that to be possible
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Mar 18, 2020 10:41
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Coronavirus and ibuprofen: Separating fact from fiction: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/51929628
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Jose posted:Lmao someone put a social distancing notice up on a meeting room door while the room was packed full of people Just saw a bus go past, slightly reduced occupancy. But still full of loving olds sitting next to each other.
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