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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

hambeet posted:

“Why is that helicopter shooting at that dog?”

Pretty accurate depiction of Norway covid response tbh

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Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

JBP posted:

Pretty accurate depiction of Norway covid response tbh



god i am hating this

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
With the way this government is acting I think we're just doing the UK response but not saying it out loud.

Change my mind.

please change my mind

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Graic Gabtar posted:



god i am hating this

It's rancid.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

starkebn posted:

With the way this government is acting I think we're just doing the UK response but not saying it out loud.

Change my mind.

please change my mind

We've got a pretty high rate of testing per capita and we're noticeably below the worst-case countries in terms of number of cases.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

starkebn posted:

With the way this government is acting I think we're just doing the UK response but not saying it out loud.

Change my mind.

please change my mind

I'm pretty sure I heard the Victorian Chief Health Officer confirm it on ABC radio yesterday or the day before.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Doctor Spaceman posted:

We've got a pretty high rate of testing per capita and we're noticeably below the worst-case countries in terms of number of cases.

I'm hearing the direct opposite. Number of test kits in Australia is a state secret lol

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

starkebn posted:

I'm heading the direct opposite. Number of test kits in Australia is a state secret lol

This is the kind of thing I've read; good in terms of the raw number of tests done, but with some problems to resolve.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


They’ve said they are short on test kits and have been prioritising them but 100,000 new kits apparently arrived today so we should see testing, and the number of infected, increase substantially this week.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

starkebn posted:

I'm hearing the direct opposite. Number of test kits in Australia is a state secret lol

They're certainly rationing them out, unless you meet some very narrow criteria they don't want to know and you just get sent home to self isolate for a fortnight.

I think they're mostly using the test kits to help with treatment of people who are quite badly sick because treatment for corona is a bit different to treatment for a bad flu.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

starkebn posted:

I'm hearing the direct opposite. Number of test kits in Australia is a state secret lol

They've been doing lots of tests and are openly saying on tv that they're worried we will run out and awaiting more.

Purk
Aug 9, 2017

Helith posted:

They’ve said they are short on test kits and have been prioritising them but 100,000 new kits apparently arrived today so we should see testing, and the number of infected, increase substantially this week.
I saw something on this today as well, can't find it to back it up. But I defs saw we got a large delivery of tests. There's also a rapid test kit thats been approved in china and europe that they'll probably look at getting over here as well.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
I listened to this
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/hack/12051864

this afternoon

At 7 minutes there is a professor from an institute of infection and immunity who says the government is doing gently caress all, I suggest you have a listen

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

NTRabbit posted:

Basics card is voluntary, Indue CWC is compulsory

it wasn't voluntary when it was introduced. That's how they got around racial discrimination laws.

Vooze
Oct 29, 2011

gay picnic defence posted:

They're certainly rationing them out, unless you meet some very narrow criteria they don't want to know and you just get sent home to self isolate for a fortnight.

I think they're mostly using the test kits to help with treatment of people who are quite badly sick because treatment for corona is a bit different to treatment for a bad flu.

I presented at my gp (or tried to) with cold and flu symptoms. I was told to call them before making a booking due to the symptoms.

I was given a telehealth interview within an hour of calling them. I had come back from overseas recently, they emailed through a pathology request. I was told to wear a mask and drive there (no rideshare or public transport).

I was tested the next day after calling ahead to the path lab. They came out to the car. I had my (negative for covid thank god) result within two days.

If anything the gp indicated that the criteria for testing was super wide. Unsure if this was an indicative experience but it was reassuringly professional.

Entire thing was bulk billed as well.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Places that are handling the situation well are locking poo poo down, and you get a temperature check at virtually any place you do go that you're allowed. They're not even testing people who get off planes here.

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-18/the-scots-college-hosts-assembly-amid-coronavirus-fears/12064148

quote:

A teacher at one of Sydney's most exclusive schools has described as "ridiculous" a decision to flout social-distancing guidelines and host a large assembly to celebrate a sporting win.

An email from a senior staff member at The Scots College, in Bellevue Hill, yesterday ordered staff to take all students to "a brief assembly on the Main Oval to welcome back our rowers".
The private school's crew had just won the prestigious Head of the River regatta for the first time since 1979.
The race is steeped in tradition and hotly contested by Sydney's most famous boys' colleges.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
The Star to introduce morning closures

The Star Entertainment group has taken a big step in reducing the risk of contracting COVID-19.

Starting tomorrow, the owners of Sydney's The Star casino will close its three casinos nationally at a dedicated time each morning to allow for comprehensive cleaning procedures.

Sydney's The Star will close for four hours from 6am while The Star Gold Coast and Treasury Brisbane will close from 4am for four hours.

"The Star Entertainment Group is actively engaging with governments in NSW and Queensland and working through our specific position given our properties operate in a precinct fashion," a spokesman said. "The Star will adhere to any direct advice we receive from governments."

The move comes after The Star had already introduced social distancing measures in its casinos, including the deactivation of every second gaming machine and electronic table game to create additional distance. It has also reduced the capacity at gaming tables and increased the distance at seated table games between players and restricting the total number of players at each stand up table game.

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

ha ha of course it was Scots

dont worry, if any of them turn out covid positive they'll all have private ventilators by sunday. maybe with the hospital branding only half removed and the previous users rolled into an alley somewhere, but only the best for our boys

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

starkebn posted:

I listened to this
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/hack/12051864

this afternoon

At 7 minutes there is a professor from an institute of infection and immunity who says the government is doing gently caress all, I suggest you have a listen

Yeah this has got me pretty pissed off

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

(In Professor Farnsworth from Futurama voice) Good news everyone
https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1239988747636076545

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Helith posted:

Counterpoints:
86.1% of Australians live in urban areas/cities. We may be a small population on a large island continent but we do have a lot of people living closely together. We are obviously nowhere as densely packed as many other cities, but we are not all evenly spread out over the continent either.

We have a very under privileged population of Aboriginal people who are very vulnerable to this as they have vastly worse health outcomes and living conditions than other Australians.

It is now autumn, temps are dropping and Flu season is about to start.

We have Scotty from marketing in charge.

By spread out, I meant most live single families to a suburban house as opposed to multi-families in high density housing and community. After being overseas for a few years, Australia feels empty even when you are in a moderately built up area.

Agree that the Aboriginal communities are very high risk and steps to keep it out of those communities is important. If it gets into those isolated communities while the rest of the Australian systems are stressed, I would not be surprised if fatality rates easily exceed double figure percentages due to triaging.

I hear most people want school closure NOW but seem quiet on the real deal lock down ala the Italian lockdown - reinforcing my view that Aussies think this is two weeks of paid holiday and done as opposed to the genuine reduction in quality of life for most people that Covid will entail.

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
heard today that a friend of my girlfriend's company is starting to fire a lot of people as their revenue drops (starting with the outsourced ukrainian dev team, who surely have enough problems already), and the employees they keep will be forced onto 60% hours (at 60% salary). another company reducing everyone to 80%

thank god australia has spent so much money on providing financial incentives to job creators so that the bulk of australians have unassailable job security, and employment opportunities for the rest will be greatly stabilised. it's nice to see that moments of stress can reinforce the conviction that focusing on trickle down economies is a better solution than social welfare or a universal income

incidentally, my brother is an ex-cop and suggested that lefties seemed to be interested in voluntary self-isolation yet didnt support expanded police powers to enforce this, while righties seem to not care about self-isolation and instead want the police to enforce government policies. my suggestion that police could make use of their extensive training to ensure non-isolators boil to death in the back of police vans was not seen as constructive

:shrug:

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Wizard Master posted:

(In Professor Farnsworth from Futurama voice) Good news everyone
https://twitter.com/sunriseon7/status/1239988747636076545

Big government getting in the way of hard working entrepreneurs again. Where will it end?

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

gay picnic defence posted:

Big government getting in the way of hard working entrepreneurs again. Where will it end?

Sunrise viewers: *Cheering*

Literally everyone else in the country: "ugh, what an embarrassment"

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
One thing certain from this event is we finally have a moment that will be the post-9/11 generations Defining Moment. They havent had one yet but they'll all remember this the way Gen Y was defined by 9/11.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Lid posted:

One thing certain from this event is we finally have a moment that will be the post-9/11 generations Defining Moment. They havent had one yet but they'll all remember this the way Gen Y was defined by 9/11.

I hope this doesn't break the brains of Genx like 9/11 broke the brains of boomers.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I feel more strongly defined generationally by being first on the internet and the release of Baby One More Time than September 11 tbh

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

hooman posted:

I hope this doesn't break the brains of Genx like 9/11 broke the brains of boomers.

the spectre of spending months at home with their children looms much like the twin towers once did

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎
the towers are books and board games

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Lid posted:

One thing certain from this event is we finally have a moment that will be the post-9/11 generations Defining Moment. They havent had one yet but they'll all remember this the way Gen Y was defined by 9/11.

There have now been four moments in my life when I knew I was witnessing History In The Making, and only one of them was positive. And that was Obama getting elected which, in retrospect, it was nice to have a black president but fewer drone strikes and Snowden prosecutions and Wall Street buttering up would've been nice.

I feel like in retrospect 2008-2015 is a pretty distinct era of hope and optimism and a general feeling that things were still getting better and the future was something to look forward to. My life personally took an upsetting turn around 2016, and we've always got to be careful not to project, but I feel like this is pretty widely felt, right? Even aside from Trump/Brexit, I don't think the full horror of climate change became becoming really apparent until around 2015/2016. The vibe for the last five years has been one of pessimism and this really feels like an almost absurd, over-the-top addition to that.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

The Before Times posted:

the spectre of spending months at home with their children looms much like the twin towers once did

the worst of the three movies

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

hooman posted:

I hope this doesn't break the brains of Genx like 9/11 broke the brains of boomers.

Mortal Kombat 2 is 27 years old which is making me feel old. Just leave me to my nostalgia please... Except "Hey Dad!". I couldn't imagine how genuinely uncomfortable it would be to sit through an episode of that...

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
was this posted already? https://m.thechronicle.com.au/news/cure-found-for-coronavirus-in-australia/3973564/ It's a few days old but doesn't seem to have gotten much traction. Let's hope tests show good outcomes.

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.
[quote="The Before Times" post="503l402723"]
the spectre of spending months at home with their children looms much like the twin towers once did
[/quote]

For all the folks out there who say how rewarding parenting is, they don't seem too keen to spend too much time with their kids.

I mean, I kinda get it - kids tend to behave way better for strangers than they do with their parents, and kids need, idk, exercise and friends and whatever, but it still feels weird that it's one of those things where people are like "it's great*" when that asterisk has a lot of caveats associated.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

freebooter posted:

There have now been four moments in my life when I knew I was witnessing History In The Making, and only one of them was positive. And that was Obama getting elected which, in retrospect, it was nice to have a black president but fewer drone strikes and Snowden prosecutions and Wall Street buttering up would've been nice.

I feel like in retrospect 2008-2015 is a pretty distinct era of hope and optimism and a general feeling that things were still getting better and the future was something to look forward to. My life personally took an upsetting turn around 2016, and we've always got to be careful not to project, but I feel like this is pretty widely felt, right? Even aside from Trump/Brexit, I don't think the full horror of climate change became becoming really apparent until around 2015/2016. The vibe for the last five years has been one of pessimism and this really feels like an almost absurd, over-the-top addition to that.

Having a charismatic, softly spoken black man in the white house made us all feel far more at ease after the horror show that was the Bush admin.

In hindsight, he loving sucked, and didn't make things a whole lot better for anyone. He's now part of the dem establishment and the word is that he coordinated the super Tuesday drop out jamboree by calling each of the candidates and asking them to drop.

So he's also responsible for a racist, demented old white man who wants to gently caress the poor being the next president either way people decide to vote.

Thanks Obama.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
Liberals gonna liberal

SecretOfSteel
Apr 29, 2007

The secret of steel has always
carried with it a mystery.

froglet posted:

For all the folks out there who say how rewarding parenting is, they don't seem too keen to spend too much time with their kids.

I mean, I kinda get it - kids tend to behave way better for strangers than they do with their parents, and kids need, idk, exercise and friends and whatever, but it still feels weird that it's one of those things where people are like "it's great*" when that asterisk has a lot of caveats associated.

Having kids puts your life into extremes: nothing makes you more tired and stressed and run-down (which *will* make you angry at times because you're a human being), but at the same time, there is no better food-for-the-soul than having your kid loudly declaring and reminding you, at the most random of moments in the oddest places, that they love you. And you can see it in their eyes - the love and the trust (right before they go back to picking their nose or trying to eat things in the middle of the supermarket).

God I love child-free time, but I don't won't a child-free life.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

freebooter posted:

There have now been four moments in my life when I knew I was witnessing History In The Making, and only one of them was positive. And that was Obama getting elected which, in retrospect, it was nice to have a black president but fewer drone strikes and Snowden prosecutions and Wall Street buttering up would've been nice.

I feel like in retrospect 2008-2015 is a pretty distinct era of hope and optimism and a general feeling that things were still getting better and the future was something to look forward to. My life personally took an upsetting turn around 2016, and we've always got to be careful not to project, but I feel like this is pretty widely felt, right? Even aside from Trump/Brexit, I don't think the full horror of climate change became becoming really apparent until around 2015/2016. The vibe for the last five years has been one of pessimism and this really feels like an almost absurd, over-the-top addition to that.

:cripes:

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

starkebn posted:

was this posted already? https://m.thechronicle.com.au/news/cure-found-for-coronavirus-in-australia/3973564/ It's a few days old but doesn't seem to have gotten much traction. Let's hope tests show good outcomes.

It's great that both drugs are well established and have been used together before.

Here's hoping the trials prove successful.

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