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Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Mnoba posted:

what happens if you quit while in negative pto?

I'm gonna just assume we get charged for it.

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

large_gourd posted:

I feel better about it today.

They can't just shut the world down for 18 months, so it won't be as bleak as that. If they do shut things down for successive intermittent periods, they'll need to provide economic support across the board which should hopefully keep people afloat until it's over. I might lose my job but I'll figure something out if that happens and in the meantime I'm gonna stop paying so much attention to every little detail and just restrict my time thinking about this to a daily update so I know what behaviour I need to adjust or maintain.

At least the virus is fairly mild so most people don't have to seriously worry about that part of it.

That all sounds reasonable, good luck. And yeah, flattening the curve is a about letting medical services respond without being overwhelmed, not just saying "gently caress it, let's try Society again in 18 months", not that this won't be extremely rough.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


You know how in school you read about some horrible event and you ask why the people didn't see it coming with all the warning signs? You know how the answer is oh they did but they didn't think it would be this bad? That is this right now.

We might be on the road to handling it so it's not a complete poo poo show though

Sioux
May 30, 2006

some ghoulish parody of humanity

QuarkJets posted:

It's still unclear to me how many infected people can truly be considered "mild" in the way people normally think about illness, like how a mild cold might be sniffles and a cough for a few days. The studies of case severity designated "mild" as anyone who doesn't require a machine to breathe for them, I'm more interested in the people who are actually asymptomatic or so mildly symptomatic that they barely notice that they have it; I have absolutely no sense for how common those cases are. All of the case reports I've read describe significantly diminished breathing capacity, aches and pains throughout the body, high fever, and being sapped of energy for up to a few weeks; what's the frequency of cases where people just trudge along and are like "oh I had coronavirus? Weird"

I wonder about that, too. Anecdotal but there's that basketball player who touched all those microphones to be funny and then turned out to have the virus, there's Idris Elba who apparently has no symptoms whatsoever. I don't know about the Hanks couple. But I hope most people are asymptomatic.

And to agree with the German goon a few posts back: here in Europe poo poo turned real last week. Where last week I went to work and stores etc. like normal (well, we talked about the virus a lot at work) now I am not allowed to go to the office and I work from home. I went to the supermarket yesterday and tried to take as much precautions as possible. In my case I tried to keep distance in the supermarket, but other people did not so some people still came really close. Then when I sat in the car I washed my hands with hand-sanitizer. It struck me how many people were in the shop area, some just sitting on benches next to each other enjoying the sun and kids playing. Although a lot of public life has shut down (businesses, movie theaters, restaurants etc.) a lot of people still don't see the danger or choose not to socially distance. Supermarket stock was pretty bad though for some stuff, like milk, bread, meat, paracetamol.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

PROCEED
I feel like it's getting handled despite the people in charge of handling it.

My local grocery store here in Michigan is moving to have their first open hour (6-7am) be for 60+ customers only, which it basically is already. That's nice to see but the shelves are getting real, real bare. No chicken, eggs, milk, even sausage and beef is getting really low. Plenty of bologna and a smattering of hot dogs, that's about it for protein. No bread, beans or rice, very low quantities of canned veggies and soups and this has been since Sunday morning.

Plenty of hummus though! The foreign food section has everything except tortillas.

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

pixaal posted:

You know how in school you read about some horrible event and you ask why the people didn't see it coming with all the warning signs? You know how the answer is oh they did but they didn't think it would be this bad? That is this right now.

We might be on the road to handling it so it's not a complete poo poo show though

Turns out when you have a media selling clicks for years about killer viruses that end up being very minor people tune out.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Mnoba posted:

Turns out when you have a media selling clicks for years about killer viruses that end up being very minor people tune out.

What if I tell you Ebola is really has hosed up has they told us.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Mnoba posted:

Turns out when you have a media selling clicks for years about killer viruses that end up being very minor people tune out.

They only ended up being mild because we had a very rapid response to them. CDC usually lead the charge on that, and were even the ones to send test kits to other nations.

SARS wasn't nothing to the people who contracted it. MERS, same. Both had long-lasting lung damage associated with infection. Swine flu was the same deal, and concerns about avian flu becoming easier to spread among humans remains quite real.

That's the problem with having legitimately competent people at the helm. The poo poo that sounds bad turns out to be not quite so bad because everyone did everything right (except for China trying to pretend that SARS didnt exist).

EDIT: also yeah it goes without saying that Ebola is a loving monster in and of itself like lol that bad boy started out with a 90% fatality rate.

Old Boot fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Mar 18, 2020

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

My girlfriend, who is from chile, is currently mentally slamming her head on the table from what she's hearing from her family and friends. The chilean government is loving around as usual, the health system is normally already stressed by the seasonal flu and woefully underprepared for this, and her family is convinced that gargling and drinking vinegar kills the corona virus.

People are really stupid and really hosed, my god.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Mnoba posted:

Turns out when you have a media selling clicks for years about killer viruses that end up being very minor people tune out.

We've lived in suspended existential threat for the past 20 years. Its like when history "ended" in the 1990s we've needed a threat constantly. Now that one's here (or something close to it - this isn't world ending), there's a sizeable population who are just fatigued I think, or arrogantly think they're not affected.

I get those people but I also want to shake them, because when this hits them, the rug will be pulled out from under them and they'll hit the deck hard.

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010

Old Boot posted:

They only ended up being mild because we had a very rapid response to them. CDC usually lead the charge on that, and were even the ones to send test kits to other nations.

SARS wasn't nothing to the people who contracted it. MERS, same. Both had long-lasting lung damage associated with infection. Swine flu was the same deal, and concerns about avian flu becoming easier to spread among humans remains quite real.

That's the problem with having legitimately competent people at the helm. The poo poo that sounds bad turns out to be not quite so bad because everyone did everything right (except for China trying to pretend that SARS didnt exist).

EDIT: also yeah it goes without saying that Ebola is a loving monster in and of itself like lol that bad boy started out with a 90% fatality rate.

This is also definitely some of it yes I agree, but all of those especially in terms of transmission rates were nothing like this.

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!

Son of Rodney posted:

My girlfriend, who is from chile, is currently mentally slamming her head on the table from what she's hearing from her family and friends. The chilean government is loving around as usual, the health system is normally already stressed by the seasonal flu and woefully underprepared for this, and her family is convinced that gargling and drinking vinegar kills the corona virus.

People are really stupid and really hosed, my god.


In Turkey, a mid-ranking bureaucrat from Northern Cyprus broke the quarantine by sending police to pick his daughter from the literal quarantine bus carrying people fresh off the plane and had a "well my daughter is important" press conference after a massive backlash when her name got out. Another instagram "influencer" girl broke quarantine after arrival and posted stories from the most populated district of Istanbul and now trying to hide from the police and public.

My sister who has chronic asthma and recently had a baby keeps visiting my mom after seeing her husband (he works in a big supermarket chain, almost 16 hours a day now due to demand) at her home despite me yelling them on the phone. She's like "I HAVE A BABY AND I NEED HELP AND I'M ALONE" which is like exactly what she has to do but she sounds she's hellbent on killing my mom by acting like a petulant child.

Like, selfishness and stupidity really know no bounds.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Son of Rodney posted:

My girlfriend, who is from chile, is currently mentally slamming her head on the table from what she's hearing from her family and friends. The chilean government is loving around as usual, the health system is normally already stressed by the seasonal flu and woefully underprepared for this, and her family is convinced that gargling and drinking vinegar kills the corona virus.

People are really stupid and really hosed, my god.

my mom is convinced it takes 20 minutes to get it so as long as you sip water every 15 minutes you are immune because you will wash it into your stomach acid and kill it :eng99:

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
I just heard a woman here at work say "the people on the beaches are smart. I bet the wind blows the virus away"

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Edit: ^^ Fuuuck people are dumb.

just a note it seems like Folding @ home has work units again. Please help work towards kicking this thing's rear end with your comptuer's spare power.

Tafferling
Oct 22, 2008

DOOT DOOT
ALL ABOARD THE ISS POLOKONZERVA

pixaal posted:

my mom is convinced it takes 20 minutes to get it so as long as you sip water every 15 minutes you are immune because you will wash it into your stomach acid and kill it :eng99:

Yeah, that facebook chain really did the rounds all over the world.
Also, old people drinking every 15 minutes... better stockpile on diapers.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Galewolf posted:

My sister who has chronic asthma and recently had a baby keeps visiting my mom after seeing her husband (he works in a big supermarket chain, almost 16 hours a day now due to demand) at her home despite me yelling them on the phone. She's like "I HAVE A BABY AND I NEED HELP AND I'M ALONE" which is like exactly what she has to do but she sounds she's hellbent on killing my mom by acting like a petulant child.

Your sister should probably move in with your mom for a bit and just let her husband work those 16 hour shifts for now.

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





Someone stole all the toilet paper and tissues from the bathroom at the casino multiple times last night. I had to close one bathroom and take turns posting with my officers at the other bathrooms. It was honestly pretty funny. Whoever took the TP didn't break the locked holders, they just unspooled it into a bag or something. That is the working theory.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1240243188708839424

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
backpacking trails in Ontario are filling up very very quickly through the summer. People are starting to change their long term plans.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

gently caress you

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


ohh it's been awhile since we've seen the fake news narritive come out to play.


I think we should get $100 each time he says fake news as part of our stimulus package.

Io_
Oct 15, 2012

woo woo

Pillbug

Sioux posted:

I wonder about that, too. Anecdotal but there's that basketball player who touched all those microphones to be funny and then turned out to have the virus, there's Idris Elba who apparently has no symptoms whatsoever. I don't know about the Hanks couple. But I hope most people are asymptomatic.

And to agree with the German goon a few posts back: here in Europe poo poo turned real last week. Where last week I went to work and stores etc. like normal (well, we talked about the virus a lot at work) now I am not allowed to go to the office and I work from home. I went to the supermarket yesterday and tried to take as much precautions as possible. In my case I tried to keep distance in the supermarket, but other people did not so some people still came really close. Then when I sat in the car I washed my hands with hand-sanitizer. It struck me how many people were in the shop area, some just sitting on benches next to each other enjoying the sun and kids playing. Although a lot of public life has shut down (businesses, movie theaters, restaurants etc.) a lot of people still don't see the danger or choose not to socially distance. Supermarket stock was pretty bad though for some stuff, like milk, bread, meat, paracetamol.

My solution was to go to the supermarket at 7 AM yesterday when it opened. Worked out reasonably well as it seems the desire of people to stay in bed, trumped the desire of people to go to the supermarket.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I've just been using the online ordering and pickup, it's pretty great TBH. Yesterday there were ten substitutions but it was all stuff that made sense like 'you ordered bread? here is bread 2'

YerDa Zabam
Aug 13, 2016



UK renting Goons, looks like the government might throw you a bone after all.

quote:

18m ago 12:10
Johnson says government will legislate to protect renters from eviction during coronavirus crisis

Corbyn says “whatever it takes” should mean tackling injustice.

He says a quarter of care staff are on zero-hours contracts, and not entitled to sick pay.

He says Rishi Sunak offered nothing to the 20 million people in rented homes in his announcement yesterday. They are “worried sick”, he says. Will the PM confirm that the emergency legislation will protect private renters from eviction?

Johnson says Corbyn is making “very powerful points”. He says he will be legislating to protect private renters from eviction. But he does not just want to pass on the problem, so other “actors in the economy” will be protected.

I don't trust the fuckers one bit though, but I hope they actually do something, and that it is done quickly (bet it will be slower than any mortgage relief)

PMQs is on at the moment. Good to see the conservative party asking their leader the hard questions SMH...

quote:


Andy Carter, a Conservative, asks for an assurance that the government will do all it can to save lives.

Yes, says Johnson.


This is good to hear too...


quote:

Labour’s Siobhain McDonagh asks Johnson to tell the courts to stop section 21 evictions.

Johnson says he will be bringing forward legislation to address this.

YerDa Zabam fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Mar 18, 2020

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

That urge to pat your own shoulder because you know you hosed up.

And the worst part is, he will get away with this. He knows his redneck disciples will lap it up.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
this really makes me furious

Centrist Dad
Nov 13, 2007

When I see your posting
College Slice
I am a coronavirus chaser, plz poz my neg alveoli.

19 o'clock
Sep 9, 2004

Excelsior!!!
Woke up with a sore throat. Ugh.


https://youtu.be/HeHm-tp_E0c

Tei
Feb 19, 2011


He talk like a convicted in the trial, trying to convince the jury it was in self-defense he stabbed his wife 254 times.

Like we care. The only important thing is that he do his loving job now.

The Walrus posted:

gently caress you

best reply so far

Tei fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Mar 18, 2020

Galewolf
Jan 9, 2007

The human gallbladder is indeed a puzzle!

Jordan7hm posted:

Your sister should probably move in with your mom for a bit and just let her husband work those 16 hour shifts for now.

Yeah she's moving to my moms place now with the baby but problem is she plans to go back to her house or have my brother in law visit her at my moms place which is a dreadful idea for now.

I'll try to talk to my brother in law and see where he's at being the more sensible one of the two.

stinch
Nov 21, 2013

Tafferling posted:

Yeah, that facebook chain really did the rounds all over the world.
Also, old people drinking every 15 minutes... better stockpile on diapers.

Facebook is going to be an absolute menace. especially once lock down induced cabin fever hits populations that doing experience it every winter.

YerDa Zabam
Aug 13, 2016



stinch posted:

Facebook is going to be an absolute menace. especially once lock down induced cabin fever hits populations that doing experience it every winter.

Yup. I only know (barely know) on one person who actually has it and I heard it through the grapevine after their ex outed them on Facebook. Classy.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

COVID-19 PANDEMIC VIRUS ATTRACTED TO WIFI

Scientists in Italian Spain have researched a tip for combatating Corona-19. Doctors have discovered the virus is attractive to WiFi signals and it will come into your house.
Please stay off Internet for as much as you can until Trump develop cure

el dingo
Mar 19, 2009


Ogres are like onions
Viber just told me to wash my hands

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
This app is trying to spread pestilence.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012



Please share and save a lives

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
The John Hopkins map has finally passed the 200,000 confirmed infections mark :toot:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


sweet thursday posted:



Please share and save a lives

I hardwire everything, even my phone at my house it gets plugged into USB and uses my computer's connection it's much faster.

No wifi virus for me! I don't know what I'd do if the virus attacked my wifi and deleted all my saved games!!!!

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Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
https://twitter.com/wizkhalifa/status/1240101609390010369

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