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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



For anyone with kids, Audible just made a huge collection of child/teen based audiobooks free. Such as Atlas Shrugged.

https://stories.audible.com/discovery

e: 155 is the number of hours I'll have to work next week to be anything close to productive on my office's antiquated, overloaded homeworking system.

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jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

this is just loving unbelievable all around

all these neoliberal do-nothing governments are gonna cause their countries to collapse. goddamn failed states

hopefully at least some people will learn the lesson that there are times when the government can, and should, actually loving do something about something. like, at least try

Algol Star
Sep 6, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

But they're giving immigration control special powers so that foreign people get to die in special cages instead of taking jobs from British key workers, so at least the ghoulish fucks at the Mail are happy.

Modern tonic water has hardly any quinine in, just enough for a bitter taste. Of course, that means that the very rational public will almost certainly start stockpiling it.

You only need to drink a cool 6 litres per day to get a therapeutic dose. Surprised people haven't caught on since this actually has some basis in truth.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

jaete posted:

this is just loving unbelievable all around

all these neoliberal do-nothing governments are gonna cause their countries to collapse. goddamn failed states

hopefully at least some people will learn the lesson that there are times when the government can, and should, actually loving do something about something. like, at least try

Yeah if they collapse now then not only do we get a seriously needed emissions cut to give us more time but we also have the opportunity to create a huge shift in the structure of our society to be interventionist for positive reasons rather than just oppressive ones.

We need to be hunkering down but also building networks and constantly reiterating the failures of capitalism and bourgeois states to handle this so that radical alternatives become the common sense approach demanding by the general population.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Algol Star posted:

You only need to drink a cool 6 litres per day to get a therapeutic dose. Surprised people haven't caught on since this actually has some basis in truth.

I suspect drinking the corresponding number of liters of gin a day would overwhelm any positive effects from the quinine in the tonic.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost
woke up this morning with a cough and a sore throat, every day is a loving adventure innit

working from home and listening to good nsfw music, :nws: this one is dedicated to everyone in government :nws:

Algol Star
Sep 6, 2010

radmonger posted:

I suspect drinking the corresponding number of liters of gin a day would overwhelm any positive effects from the quinine in the tonic.

You won't know that until you try.

Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried

Shogi posted:

I’ve certainly never known anything like it. It really feels nothing like a cold or flu.

Yeah I think I said those exact words at some point. Like being hit by a freight train which also happens to have set every cell in your lungs alight.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011
This link has some great info on how the Chinese government is managing quarantine:

https://supchina.com/2020/02/11/all-the-hilariously-aggressive-coronavirus-banners-found-in-china/

I particularly like ‘everyone you encounter on the streets now is a hungry ghost seeking to end your life’.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

namesake posted:

radical alternatives become the common sense approach demanding by the general population.

monkey finger curls

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

namesake posted:

Yeah if they collapse now then not only do we get a seriously needed emissions cut to give us more time but we also have the opportunity to create a huge shift in the structure of our society to be interventionist for positive reasons rather than just oppressive ones.

We need to be hunkering down but also building networks and constantly reiterating the failures of capitalism and bourgeois states to handle this so that radical alternatives become the common sense approach demanding by the general population.
Yeah, this is the key thing. We've had close to 40 years where 95% of things that the State has done has been utter poo poo. The actual government has had an attitude of "the government can't do anything right, and we will prove it."

So it's no surprise at all that the attitude in response has been one of believing that the market creates things and the government bans them, either in the form of "the left has to show it could create an iPad" from liberals or "can't believe the market created this, the government should ban it" from the Mail. So now we have governments where the most creative thing they can imagine is mass migrant detention powers in response to a pandemic.

radmonger posted:

This link has some great info on how the Chinese government is managing quarantine:

https://supchina.com/2020/02/11/all-the-hilariously-aggressive-coronavirus-banners-found-in-china/

I particularly like ‘everyone you encounter on the streets now is a hungry ghost seeking to end your life’.
I like
"I’ll break your legs if you insist on going out,
I’ll wreck your teeth if you challenge me"

Car park m8, now.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Pistol_Pete posted:

My local supermarket is now nearly cleared out of fresh produce, which is a bit of a worry.

Luckily they still had plenty of cabbages, which is what I'd come in for - most people hate cabbage, even in a crisis!

Here's a cabbage recipe I like. I should make this over the weekend:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3805594&pagenumber=80&perpage=40#post498653213

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I want a Chinese banner that transliterates as
"I'll find my frog.

P.S. who took my frog,"

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1240965216634109954?s=21

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.




So close all supermarkets?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


It's nice to remember that not every business owner is psychopathic shitbag.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010


It feels like they're deliberately giving this vague advice on the expectation that loads of people won't follow it, and so once the dust settles they'll have a convenient scapegoat. "Oh it wasn;t us, it was those bloody Wetherspoons that killed yer gran"


Less conspiratorially, it's probably just hands-off ideology, and they just fundamentally don't think governments should be doing things.

But it's also the other thing.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Strom Cuzewon posted:

It feels like they're deliberately giving this vague advice on the expectation that loads of people won't follow it, and so once the dust settles they'll have a convenient scapegoat. "Oh it wasn;t us, it was those bloody Wetherspoons that killed yer gran"


Less conspiratorially, it's probably just hands-off ideology, and they just fundamentally don't think governments should be doing things.

But it's also the other thing.

Tim Martin is a huge Brexiteer who did quite a lot to put Boris Johnson into Number Ten. I don't reckon this is about scapegoating him.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
two of my coworkers are self isolating with fevers and headaches :thumbsup:

fortunately haven't been in contact with them for a while (not quite 14 days, but not far off), but I can feel this disease coming for me :spooky:

wonder if they got it off the guy who's dad died of it? or one of them's parents were out doing chalet stuff at a ski resort in the Alps (she's very posh) and they might have brought it home

XMNN fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Mar 20, 2020

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




jaete posted:

woke up this morning with a cough and a sore throat, every day is a loving adventure innit

working from home and listening to good nsfw music, :nws: this one is dedicated to everyone in government :nws:

Can I recommend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haYdgklCO50

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

I won't mind if/when the roni takes me as long as it takes this dirty loving oval office with me

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Delivery updates, ASDA as well as Morrisons are releasing the delivery slots on the 21st day at midnight.

This post will seem far far less stupid in 20 days time.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


I think the panic buying has finally stopped, I was in Iceland and while it was packed nobody seemed to be hoarding anything, most people were using baskets. Also I sneezed and a kid from the next isle over shouted "bless you."

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/10rdBeen/status/1240506811758698498

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

I had thought that Angostura bitters had lots or quinine but apparently they don't, or at least it's unknown. But these bitters do:
http://bittermens.com/speed-craft-cocktail-syrups/tonic-syrup/

Old fashioneds for everyone

Barry Foster posted:

Get off the internet for a day or two, in your free time anyway. Specifically avoid twitter, news sites, SA, FB (lol), and any other crack that lets the outside world in. Watch films or tv or play vidja games or get high and/or drunk and listen to music.

You are right. I'm going for a jog.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Darth Walrus posted:

Tim Martin is a huge Brexiteer who did quite a lot to put Boris Johnson into Number Ten. I don't reckon this is about scapegoating him.

I've got news for you about tories and backstabbing

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always


the phrase 'common sense' has become the mark of being a credulous moron

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Blacknose posted:

Yeah I think I said those exact words at some point. Like being hit by a freight train which also happens to have set every cell in your lungs alight.

Sorry I'm a little behind on thread news, have you two both tested positive for covid19?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
looks like it's not very long till it all kicks off in London

Torygraph posted:

London hospital trust has become the first to admit it is turning away coronavirus patients, as NHS chiefs warned services in the capital are on the brink of being overwhelmed.

Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust said it has transferred Covid-19 patients to neighbouring hospitals, as demand for lifesaving treatment surges.

A senior clinician at the trust revealed that at one stage on Tuesday only one patient had been admitted to intensive care out of an eligible group of five, although the trust insists all who have required ventilation have so far received it.

It came as the death toll from the disease rose most sharply in London, with 16 of the total 29 new fatalities in England coming from the capital. 

There were three deaths at Lewisham and Greenwich, more than nearby larger trusts.

In the UK, 144 patients are now known to have died from the disease.

On Thursday night senior medical leaders warned that smaller hospitals would find it hard to cope and were already transferring patients to larger teaching counterparts.

Dr Simon Walsh, the British Medical Association for emergency care, said: “Most hospitals have already managed to double their critical care capacity but the worrying thing I am hearing is that some units around London are already filled to capacity and some are exceeding capacity.”

Becoming the latest senior medic to bemoan the lack of staff testing for Covid-19, he said that whilst the bigger departments might be able to absorb staff absences, specialist units and smaller hospitals are likely to suffer and he was aware of paediatric emergency departments were between 25 and 30 per cent the doctors were already self-isolating.

Meanwhile a government source said:  "In London, the situation is already looking like one of the worst winters we could remember - elderly people needing ventilators and just not enough of them to go round.

“We were already under pressure, the situation is deteriorating pretty fast.”

Thursday's fresh coronavirus fatalities put the death rate in the UK higher than that of Italy.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a clinical staff member centrally involved in the coronavirus response at Lewisham and Greenwich said the trust's A&E departments now resemble “Covid-19 waiting rooms”.

“We’re running out of beds and running out of space,” he said. “Some patients with Covid-19 are being shipped to other trusts.

“Managers are off sick with stress.”

At the daily Downing Street press conference, Professor Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer for England, acknowledged the deteriorating situation in London.

He said the danger posed by the disease to patients’ respiratory systems means intensive care units would be the first to experience “real pressure”, adding that there will be a "lag" before the public's efforts to stem the spread of Covid-19 will result in a slowing of case numbers.

One London hospital trust has less than seven days’ worth of protective equipment left and has even had a store room broken into and with masks and other protection stolen, sources told the Telegraph .

A spokesman for Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust said claims that Covid-19 patients had not been properly ventilated were “categorically not true”.

“We have provided intensive care treatment to all Covid-19 patients who have needed it,” he said.

He also said all A&E services had not been disrupted.

but the pubs are still open so everything's probably fine

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Not liking this

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html

quote:

Younger Adults Make Up Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalizations in U.S.
New C.D.C. data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54. But the risk of dying was significantly higher in older people.

Original source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm?s_cid=mm6912e2_w

Moonwolf
Jun 29, 2004

Flee from th' terrifyin' evil of "NHS"!


Tesseraction posted:

Sorry I'm a little behind on thread news, have you two both tested positive for covid19?

You can't get tested unless you get to hospitalisation, and have contact with someone confirmed carrying. Unless you're really lucky I guess.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

bessantj posted:

I think the panic buying has finally stopped, I was in Iceland and while it was packed nobody seemed to be hoarding anything, most people were using baskets. Also I sneezed and a kid from the next isle over shouted "bless you."

More likely they ran out of things to buy.

The only good thing that might come from this epidemic is the end of pineapple on pizza. Even at the height of panic buying people were seeing freezer cabinets completely pillaged apart from an untouched section of "Hawaiian" pizzas.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

Jedit posted:

More likely they ran out of things to buy.

The only good thing that might come from this epidemic is the end of pineapple on pizza. Even at the height of panic buying people were seeing freezer cabinets completely pillaged apart from an untouched section of "Hawaiian" pizzas.

Hawaiian pizza and corona beer will be the last thing available.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Tesseraction posted:

It's nice to remember that not every business owner is psychopathic shitbag.

I'm so glad I work for a firm that at the very least gets that is a good idea to present the image you're on your workers side. The owners have been transparent, mucking in to help cover people who are ill or isolating, and have been very clear they're going to be the last ones in the office and their priority is getting the most vulnerable people working at home first. At the same time they are also completely open that we're a profit making entity and they're doing this to make sure they can maintain revenue in the long term, because they get that their value comes from their workers so they need to keep us safe and on board.

I just can't comprehend the attitude of most bosses to this crisis. I think there is a serious issue that most capitalists don't get how the economy works because they are bought into their own propaganda.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Mother's waiting for the parcel of dinners I ordered for her a couple of days ago. She doesn't know that's what's coming, only that she has to be home for the delivery.

As it's mother's day on Sunday she's probably thinking it's going to be flowers, chocs etc, I have a feeling she's going to be a bit disappointed! At least there's two mini bottles of wine in there to take the edge off the disappointment!

I'm sure I will find out very shortly. Delivery is on stop 69, she is stop 70.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Failed Imagineer posted:

I want a Chinese banner that transliterates as
"I'll find my frog.

P.S. who took my frog,"

我的青蛙,会找到啊

复:我的青蛙 给谁拿啦?

E: poo poo you said transliterates. Oh well, at least it rhymes.

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

Jippa posted:

Hawaiian pizza and corona beer will be the last thing available.

And Spam. I’ve seen entire shelving units bare except for a full complement of Spam tins.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Lord Ludikrous posted:

And Spam. I’ve seen entire shelving units bare except for a full complement of Spam tins.

Home Bargains is cleared of multipack cans of tuna in sunflower oil, but a fair amount of multipack cans of tuna in brine there.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Home Bargains is cleared of multipack cans of tuna in sunflower oil, but a fair amount of multipack cans of tuna in brine there.

Wut? Briny tuna and rice is great.

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HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Saw this morning that the govt says they've delivered essential PPE supplies to pharmacies. This is not true. We've had some stuff from our own head office but that's intended only for when we have to close and deep-clean after someone comes in and coughs on the hot water bottles.

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