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| R. Allin-Khan |
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| A. Rayner |
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| I. Murray |
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| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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Why is she even in the Labour party? https://twitter.com/jessphillips/status/1241053470817468417?s=20 Page snipe: 163 If you google 163, you get lots of stuff in Chinese. Spooky or what! Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Wenruo was born then.
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Mar 20, 2020 21:39
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Why is she even in the Labour party? there isnt a jess phillips party
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Mar 20, 2020 21:42
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Julio Cruz posted:like gently caress am I reading them but I imagine it's all "how dare you, a politician, politicise this event by commenting on political decisions by other politicians" this, crossed with "dont talk down britane in this time of crisis" one was genuinely like "sometimes the job of the opposition is to not oppose"
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Mar 20, 2020 21:51
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I.... just got an email from my landlord telling me not to worry about rent next month as "this affects us all"... .... okay, now I'm officially freaked the gently caress out.
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Mar 20, 2020 21:56
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they're gonna ask you for regular blood transfusions in lieu of rent
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Mar 20, 2020 21:58
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There'll be some twat on HIGNFY doing a serious bit and saying Jeremy Corbyn should apologise for not supporting Boris. And then Ian Hislop will say he should be forced by the police to self-isolate so we don't have to listen to him anymore!!!!! And then Paul Merton will do a funny face. And then the audience will clap and whoop and cheer, what an excellent topical comedy show this is 
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Mar 20, 2020 21:58
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crispix posted:There'll be some twat on HIGNFY doing a serious bit and saying Jeremy Corbyn should apologise for not supporting Boris. I can only imagine what the appalling and totally unfunny Josh Widdecombe would be doing on whatever it is he is on. The only comedy show I can bear to watch is Dave Gorman Modern Life is Goodish.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:00
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Communist Thoughts posted:wheres kier? Whoever wants to be next leader should really be yelling about what needs to be done rather than trying to become leader. Like, Bernie's out there constantly trying to get a response in place and the hell with what it means for his campaign (Which is exactly why he should be President of course but lol dems) Disnesquick posted:As many, many posters above have pointed out, we live in 1984 where the consensus of opinion is completely manufactured, and the right will spare no effort to twist the truth to defend their power, even in the face of global catastrophe. However, the right has never been so week as now, but this is temporary, unless the left can seize the moment. They will rebuild their Friedmanite death cult and finish off destroying the biosphere. From a purely practical perspective, therefore, what is to be done? Propaganda campaigns? Organization under the blanket of mutual aid? I'm really afraid that, like with 2008, socialists are just going to let this slide yet again. Nah, the left is orders of magnitude more organized, driven, and popular than it was in 2008. Back then the neoliberal consensus was still in rare form and had more than enough support to be given a chance to fix things, and even then it required stuff like Obama posing as much more progressive than he really was. They have conclusively shown they can't fix things, that was a lost decade (and more) that has driven, though not yet to success, Corbyn, Bernie, and others, and the current crises are so dramatic that leftist policies on a massive scale are being instituted by no less than Trump and Boris Johnson. Which isn't to say "lol we can do nothing at all and still win", we're not the right obviously, but this is proving to be a capstone on decades of terrible policies leading to crisis after crisis.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:00
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There have been tons of really drunk folk going past here, so I guess they got really stuck in before pubs closed, and now there's just big groups of teenagers sitting around bored in the streets near here presumably cause wherever they would normally go is shut. Great work prime minster, really locked it all down.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:01
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Danger - Octopus! posted:There have been tons of really drunk folk going past here, so I guess they got really stuck in before pubs closed, and now there's just big groups of teenagers sitting around bored in the streets near here presumably cause wherever they would normally go is shut. Great work prime minster, really locked it all down. I enjoyed the question after todays press conference asking 'Aren't the young people just going to throw house parties?'. Incredible journalism, just the best.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:06
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Danger - Octopus! posted:There have been tons of really drunk folk going past here, so I guess they got really stuck in before pubs closed, and now there's just big groups of teenagers sitting around bored in the streets near here presumably cause wherever they would normally go is shut. Great work prime minster, really locked it all down. not much that can really be done about that, is there? unless you want to go full on patrols and arrests, but even then there aren't enough police to be catching everyone. you're gonna get some goofs. as long as it isn't 90% goofs then we'll still reduce the number of deaths significantly.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:07
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Comrade Fakename posted:It is absolutely incredible that they wrote that entire Telegraph article and never mentioned Corbyn or the Labour Party.  quote:To take the route of passive liquidation – on the basis of Schumpeterian gobbledygook or sovereign debt phobia – is self-evidently untenable. The Government would end up having to nationalise large parts of the economy. We would have slid into socialism, one disaster after another, week after week, until we reached Corbynism by default and by defaults. To avert socialism, we must briefly become socialists. We must spend whatever it takes to save free market liberalism.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:07
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I think there should be more schemes for the young people
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Mar 20, 2020 22:08
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It's great because they're going to do all of this, and still have to nationalise things lol
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Mar 20, 2020 22:09
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Danger - Octopus! posted:There have been tons of really drunk folk going past here, so I guess they got really stuck in before pubs closed, and now there's just big groups of teenagers sitting around bored in the streets near here presumably cause wherever they would normally go is shut. Great work prime minster, really locked it all down. I wonder if everyone being at home will make crime go down (less opportunity for drunken fights, burglaries, muggings, etc) or up (domestic violence, neighbour disputes, just plain cabin fever)?
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Mar 20, 2020 22:10
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large_gourd posted:not much that can really be done about that, is there? unless you want to go full on patrols and arrests, but even then there aren't enough police to be catching everyone. you're gonna get some goofs. Oh yeah wasn't suggesting arresting everyone outside, I'm not a Telegraph reader - was more just amused that the response to a lockdown was more drunk folk and people hanging out than usual.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:11
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I wonder if everyone being at home will make crime go down (less opportunity for drunken fights, burglaries, muggings, etc) or up (domestic violence, neighbour disputes, just plain cabin fever)? Sad truth is domestic violence is going to rocket.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:11
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large_gourd posted:not much that can really be done about that, is there? unless you want to go full on patrols and arrests, but even then there aren't enough police to be catching everyone. you're gonna get some goofs. I mean this is what they're doing in other countries, so based on their current record we'll be doing it by some point next week maybe there'll be a period of issuing strongly-worded guidance, but groups of kids hanging around on corners probably don't donate much to the conservative party someone already got arrested on the isle of man for not self-isolating
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Mar 20, 2020 22:11
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Sad truth is domestic violence is going to rocket. yeah i was thinking about this earlier today. not a part of my life, but it occurred to me that the prospect of being cooped up with an abuser in this situation must be a utter loving nightmare. yet another area where there's going to be a need for massive support.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:14
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Ms Adequate posted:Whoever wants to be next leader should really be yelling about what needs to be done rather than trying to become leader. Like, Bernie's out there constantly trying to get a response in place and the hell with what it means for his campaign (Which is exactly why he should be President of course but lol dems) What leftist policies are being instituted? The only thing I see is a temporary cash giveaway, which will no doubt be paid for by establishing debt, rather than inflation, and therefore be an even bigger drain on the state in the future. No commonwealth equity ownership guarantees have been moored as part of the business bailouts. The whole thing smacks of loosening the chains to fasten them tighter. But people are about to get hungry and angry. In such conditions, authoritarians thrive like cockroaches. Unless the left actually takes action to seize this opportunity then the right are going to take that opportunity for themselves. History shows us that the collapse of liberalism can fall hard to the right as well as the left.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:15
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crispix posted:I think there should be more schemes for the young people The reason the school summer holidays are both so long and kinda awkwardly shoehorned in to one end of the season (as opposed to sitting around midsummer day) is because kids were needed to help bring in the harvest. Even into the 50s kids (whole families, in fact) traveled from London out to Kent and Essex to help bring in fruit - and particularly hops - because they couldn't be mechanically harvested. I think I've just solved youth crime and Brexit labour shortages in one go, thinktank grant cheque please.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:17
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We should campaign for the BBC to be given a cash injection so they can put better stuff on TV for a while imo. Honestly I think for some people getting to the end of another week of isolation and seeing Miranda on TV might tip them over the edge :/
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Mar 20, 2020 22:21
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crispix posted:We should campaign for the BBC to be given a cash injection so they can put better stuff on TV for a while imo. Honestly I think for some people getting to the end of another week of isolation and seeing Miranda on TV might tip them over the edge :/ I can't stick Miranda - she's a 1-trick pony 'oh look at me, I'm big and gawky and can't get a bloke' and then half way through some bloke asks her out and all the audience are like 'ooh ahhh'' but some of my friends absolutely love her.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:24
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We were going over shutdown/mothballing plans this morning, generally working on the assumption it'd be early next week. At least we'd have the weekend to prep for it Nope gently caress you half 5 on a Friday night, great time to tell businesses they need to close down We've got pubs in Bristol who's doorman have been told to just pack up and go home by their bosses, on a night where people are desperate to get one last piss up in Pubs now have to scramble to secure their premises heading into the weekend and every scummer knows they are going to be minimally occupied yet full of stock/cash
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Mar 20, 2020 22:24
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I can't stick Miranda - she's a 1-trick pony 'oh look at me, I'm big and gawky and can't get a bloke' and then half way through some bloke asks her out and all the audience are like 'ooh ahhh'' but some of my friends absolutely love her. All of the humour in the show apparently derives from her being posh and falling on her hoop a lot. It's Mrs Brown's Boys for middle class people 
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Mar 20, 2020 22:26
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Gonzo McFee posted:I know but £55 for a videogame? I remember when you could buy a new game for £30 and still have money left over to buy the 3 for a tenner classics. You could just not buy games at launch? I haven't paid over £30 for a game in years
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crispix posted:We should campaign for the BBC to be given a cash injection so they can put better stuff on TV for a while imo. Honestly I think for some people getting to the end of another week of isolation and seeing Miranda on TV might tip them over the edge :/ No. gently caress broadcast television. On demand or bust. This is the drunk hill I am willing to die on.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:33
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I don't even know what the hell anymore. Are we in lockdown? Am I supposed to go to work on Monday? Are shops still opening or are we all going to starve now?
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fridge corn posted:You could just not buy games at launch? I haven't paid over £30 for a game in years Only pc game I've got close to paying that for was a goon recommended disco Elysium which was so poo poo I stopped playing after about 10 mins. I paid quite a lot for the cowboy game on Xbox but also didn't hear from the lass I bought it for for ages so worth it.
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namesake posted:It's great because they're going to do all of this, and still have to nationalise things lol Will that include sausages?
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fridge corn posted:You could just not buy games at launch? I haven't paid over £30 for a game in years Yeah but on the other hand there's demons what need ripping and tearing Disnesquick posted:What leftist policies are being instituted? The only thing I see is a temporary cash giveaway, which will no doubt be paid for by establishing debt, rather than inflation, and therefore be an even bigger drain on the state in the future. No commonwealth equity ownership guarantees have been moored as part of the business bailouts. The whole thing smacks of loosening the chains to fasten them tighter. Money going to actual people rather than stock markets and CEOs. 80% of wages being covered by the government. Rent suspensions. Mortgage holidays. Increase in some benefits. A general loosening in work rules for example in WFH measures that is going to be hard to put back in the bottle. More I'm forgetting I think. None of these are enough and none of them are dyed-in-the-wool blood red policies that Lenin would take no issue with. Most of the help comes either with strings attached or still isn't enough. And there's a lot of other stuff going on as well that's not so great, for sure. But ultimately a lot of these, backed up with things like actual rent strikes, homeless siezure of unoccupied properties, and solidarity efforts to do everything from making sure nan isn't too lonely to getting groceries for people on lockdown, all add up to both a shift left and evidence that leftism has a great deal to commend it, as well as being proof positive of unrestrained capitalism's failure/inability to deal with things and the caprice of a system that would otherwise readily turf people out into the streets in a pandemic or bankrupt them for getting treatment or what have you, as well as the more mundane stuff like showing the insistence on not implementing WFH was bollocks. And sure, we'll probably swing back at least some amount the other way once the crisis has passed, but it's going to prime things for the future even if we can't hold all the gains, both in subsequent elections and the next time a big crisis hits us.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Only pc game I've got close to paying that for was a goon recommended disco Elysium which was so poo poo I stopped playing after about 10 mins. I paid quite a lot for the cowboy game on Xbox but also didn't hear from the lass I bought it for for ages so worth it. Right that's it you've gone too far, trolling or no, I'm calling for 99 to be Pissflaps'd.
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Sunak is getting quite the opportunity, isn't he? Just by standing next to the sweaty, twitching wreck of our PM he gains a golden sheen of comparative statesmanship, on top of the one he has for not being a Rand-obsessed Nosferatu. Even better, he gets to enact pale shadows of Labour's economic policies and get his knob shined by Dan Hodges on Twitter 24/7 for it. Naturally this raises no questions about the necessity of austerity in the minds of the electorate.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:45
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Only pc game I've got close to paying that for was a goon recommended disco Elysium which was so poo poo I stopped playing after about 10 mins. Well somebody died to the ceiling fan it was me. i died to the ceiling fan.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:46
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fridge corn posted:You could just not buy games at launch? I haven't paid over £30 for a game in years good luck with first party nintendo games. i'm very happy if i can get it for under 40 (but then you can resell after so it's kind of a wash)
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Mar 20, 2020 22:47
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Qwertycoatl posted:If Labour had won I'm sure these exact same people right now would be screaming about their irresponsible spending plans or somesuch nonsense
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Sloth Life posted:Are we in lockdown? Am I supposed to go to work on Monday? Are shops still opening or are we all going to starve now? Not yet. Depends on your job. Yes and probably.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Only pc game I've got close to paying that for was a goon recommended disco Elysium which was so poo poo I stopped playing after about 10 mins. I paid quite a lot for the cowboy game on Xbox but also didn't hear from the lass I bought it for for ages so worth it. terrible opinion goons tricked me into buying xenoverse chronicles 2 or whatever the hell it is on switch, now THATS a bad game
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