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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
How are they going to enforce it really.

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Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Zarin posted:

drat yeah she did. Feel bad for everyone else that had to speak today haha.

Edit: What number were we supposed to text for daily updates?

Edit2: Kinda funny that we are allowed to go for walks and hike, but parks are closed. I mean I suppose I get it, but still - not sure where I'm supposed to hike then.

Public Health website chicago.gov/coronavirus

text:
covid19 to 78015

Big Black Dick
Mar 20, 2009

Hollismason posted:

How are they going to enforce it really.

Mobilized National Guard if you listen to all the conspiracy nutjobs.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Big Black Dick posted:

Mobilized National Guard if you listen to all the conspiracy nutjobs.

They want it so bad they're going to refuse to follow any of these directions until they're forced to deploy just so they can say 'I told you so.'

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"
Are restaurants still carry-out/delivery only, or are they fully closed?

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

Neo_Crimson posted:

Are restaurants still carry-out/delivery only, or are they fully closed?

Food places are allowed to be open, to my knowledge. I planned on ordering takeout tonight because its Friday, god dammit.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


fishing with the fam posted:

Food places are allowed to be open, to my knowledge. I planned on ordering takeout tonight because its Friday, god dammit.

Same here.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

fishing with the fam posted:

Food places are allowed to be open, to my knowledge. I planned on ordering takeout tonight because its Friday, god dammit.

And the local mexican restaurant is delivering bigass margaritas hell yeah

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Highlights of Pritzker's speech:

Shelter in place starting Sat 5pm til April 7th

Schools closed til April 8th minimum now

school breakfast/lunches will still be available for kids through shutdown at schools however

statewide moratorium on evictions during crisis

going to try to house any homeless

going to somehow offer safe childcare for emergency workers like doctors 'frontline workers' etc

essential activities: healthcare, pharmacy and grocery shopping, gas stations, banking, drive-through and carry-out restaurants, and home-based care for children and seniors

Agriculture and the press, veterinarians and plumbers, laundromats and banks, roads, bridges and transit. The fundamental building blocks that keep our society safe and steady will not be closing down.

no martial law no activation of national guard other than medical personnel

can still go outside and walk around not locked in your house

grocery stores will be open, pharmacies open, DON'T HOARD YOU loving ANIMALS

mail still be delivered

parks and libraries in Chicago will be closed, other municipalities its up to their mayors.

Parks won't be cordoned off rather all the buildings/facilities within them (bathrooms, greenhouses etc) will be closed. You can still walk in them, walk your dog etc just stay 6ft away from each other

For updates:
Public Health website: chicago.gov/coronavirus

text:
covid19 to 78015

Oracle fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Mar 20, 2020

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Hollismason posted:

How are they going to enforce it really.

My guess is by making examples of a few egregious / high profile violators, and besides that mostly not

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's unenforcable, police will cite people when they see it but for the most part it's all on the honor system.

Sailor Jerry
May 28, 2013
Pillbug
The order has been posted:
https://www2.illinois.gov/Documents/ExecOrders/2020/ExecutiveOrder-2020-10.pdf

esquilax
Jan 3, 2003

"Licensed medical and adult use cannibis dispensaries" are considered essential businesses and may remain open.

TowerofOil
May 22, 2007

You don't need a doctor, I'm a christian scientist.

Bread Liar
Doing a quick look at the order while at work and there are so many exceptions and loopholes nothing will actually close and I don't know why they even issued this poo poo.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

TowerofOil posted:

Doing a quick look at the order while at work and there are so many exceptions and loopholes nothing will actually close and I don't know why they even issued this poo poo.

Because they need to scare the idiots who went to St Patrick's day parties. All this poo poo is stuff everyone sane was already doing but 25% of the public is dumb as hell

TowerofOil
May 22, 2007

You don't need a doctor, I'm a christian scientist.

Bread Liar
I don't see how this scares anyone if nothing actually changes in their day to day life

My job prints and mails junk mail for banks and is claim to be an essential service

TowerofOil fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 20, 2020

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


esquilax posted:

"Licensed medical and adult use cannibis dispensaries" are considered essential businesses and may remain open.

Is there a list online of what qualifies as an essential business?

esquilax
Jan 3, 2003

FuturePastNow posted:

Is there a list online of what qualifies as an essential business?

It was in the order that was linked above. Starts on page 5.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




This might be bullshit, but my wife says she knows someone who works in a factory that does nothing but make sprinkles (like for cookies and cupcakes) and that they are being exempted from the order as "essential." I'm skeptical, sounds like one of those things from a forwarded email, but :shrug:

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


esquilax posted:

It was in the order that was linked above. Starts on page 5.

Excellent, I see it now. That list looks like it's designed so most businesses can find some loophole to continue operating. Perhaps that's the point.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

LabyaMynora posted:

This might be bullshit, but my wife says she knows someone who works in a factory that does nothing but make sprinkles (like for cookies and cupcakes) and that they are being exempted from the order as "essential." I'm skeptical, sounds like one of those things from a forwarded email, but :shrug:

I mean food processing is essential or else the essential grocery stores won’t have anything to sell

I don’t think they’ll get down into the weeds enough to decide what kind of food is essential unless this gets way worse

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Badger of Basra posted:

I mean food processing is essential or else the essential grocery stores won’t have anything to sell

I don’t think they’ll get down into the weeds enough to decide what kind of food is essential unless this gets way worse

Yeah; I'm pretty sure one of the main takeaways from the French Revolution was that if you run out of bread, you can make do with cake. But if you run out of cake, then heads will roll.

I'm not a Doctor of History yet but that's what I remember from one of those classes with the book with all the numbers that we used only the front half of (that wasn't a math class).

esquilax
Jan 3, 2003

LabyaMynora posted:

This might be bullshit, but my wife says she knows someone who works in a factory that does nothing but make sprinkles (like for cookies and cupcakes) and that they are being exempted from the order as "essential." I'm skeptical, sounds like one of those things from a forwarded email, but :shrug:

The government doesn't typically make a determination on every single business and item in advance. All this means is that SprinkleCo's lawyers are comfortable enough that they will win the case if it comes down to "do sprinkles count as 'food supplies' under this law."

E.G. Gamestop is staying open in California because they also sell electronic supplies which are typically deemed "essential". They might get dinged on it, but they might not. It depends on how law enforcement is feeling that day.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU
Looks like several people have clipped out Emily Landon's speech from today; it's super worth a watch if have 8 minutes and you're interested in COVID-19 stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIA41ZBbCfk

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


esquilax posted:

The government doesn't typically make a determination on every single business and item in advance. All this means is that SprinkleCo's lawyers are comfortable enough that they will win the case if it comes down to "do sprinkles count as 'food supplies' under this law."

E.G. Gamestop is staying open in California because they also sell electronic supplies which are typically deemed "essential". They might get dinged on it, but they might not. It depends on how law enforcement is feeling that day.

Didn't California already tell GameStop to gently caress off with that nonsense

esquilax
Jan 3, 2003

brugroffil posted:

Didn't California already tell GameStop to gently caress off with that nonsense

Apparently they did reverse course sometime earlier today (I did not realize), but no word on the cause was law enforcement or the bad press they'd been receiving.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
I mean when life has become weeks of staying inside and playing video games...

Seriously though, I'm glad the workers won't be subjected to that.

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!
Gamestop probably just stayed open because there's no one left making decisions companywide anyway. They've been on death's door for a few months and we're set to shutter more stores in April before COVID really blew up.

I'm glad everything is shutting down. Not sure dispensaries staying open for recreational makes much sense when the last time I visited they still had a line of like 30-50 people out front (a social distancing line where everyone had 6 ft from one another but still)

Maybe if they hadn't bungled the supply out the gate people could actually buy enough to not have to come back twice a week and the lines wouldn't be ridiculous. The least of concerns at the moment but :sigh:

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
They didn't bungle the supply, it was intentionally kept limited so that the market won't be saturated when Social Equity dispensaries open.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


This guy owns a flooring company here in Southern Illinois. All the other small businesses are complaint about it too.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Yeah it does stink, if only someone had been pointing this poo poo out for the last 160 years

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Or if only we had someone trying to run for president that was aware of this problem and talked a big game about doing something about it, but the masses appear to be taking a stance of "nah, trump lite is gonna be way better."

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


It should be noted that all of the people pumping this are major Republicans who think socialism is the downfall of history.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
I kinda agree that maybe Menards should not be allowed to stay open.

Walmart, I don't know if they should exist at the scale they do but I get the need to keep them open as that's like a grocery store for a number of people.

Menards is not what I would classify essential.

Cattail Prophet
Apr 12, 2014

If he hadn't put scare quotes around pandemic and gone full mask off "How DARE big gubment interfere with MY business!" right at the finish line, those would have been fairly reasonable concerns.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Cattail Prophet posted:

If he hadn't put scare quotes around pandemic and gone full mask off "How DARE big gubment interfere with MY business!" right at the finish line, those would have been fairly reasonable concerns.

Yeah

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

“I don’t want to depend on the government for anything [but please save me from this pandemic that private business cannot address; I am a big baby]”

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Dexo posted:

I kinda agree that maybe Menards should not be allowed to stay open.

Walmart, I don't know if they should exist at the scale they do but I get the need to keep them open as that's like a grocery store for a number of people.

Menards is not what I would classify essential.

It’s essential when something at your house breaks and you need to fix it.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Pretty much what I am seeing among Southern Illinois is that Rs are generally doing two things:

1) Saying that any criticism of Trump is people playing politics with this tragedy. Criticizing him is detracting from getting things done.

2) Pritzker is ruining the state by doing what he has done. He is trying to ruin small business in order to prop up big business. This is all a plan by the communists to get people dependent on the government.

Edit: Also a poo poo ton of “this is what makes small towns truly better than big cities because we take care of each other.”

I hate Southern Illinois sometimes.

Bizarro Kanyon fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 21, 2020

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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Bizarro Kanyon posted:

This guy owns a flooring company here in Southern Illinois. All the other small businesses are complaint about it too.



I mean, I'm considering doing exactly this for my basement flooring we were a week away from ordering lol

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