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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

big scary monsters posted:

lol that's not even going to be close to legal unless they're a lodger or something. I hope they told the landlord to get hosed.

You have to give lodgers at least 28 days to leave, so not even that.

Edit.. drat it - have my fat cat.

Renfield fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 21, 2020

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knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2005755

Covid-19 and the Stiff Upper Lip — The Pandemic Response in the United Kingdom

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
theenglish.jpg


Coohoolin posted:

Forgot to post before my set but if anyone's missing the pub I set up a wee group for virtual concerts, my mate arthur is up in a few minutes and he's a wonderful fiddler, check it out!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/201653174496800/permalink/202356627759788/?sfnsn=scwspmo&extid=RIrK9OrbZlkfaKaQ
I've been to so many different pubs tonight via the internets.

loving hell
:thermidor:

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

knox_harrington posted:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2005755

Covid-19 and the Stiff Upper Lip — The Pandemic Response in the United Kingdom

quote:

the football authorities (both rugby and soccer)

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

Guavanaut posted:

This is important to keep remembering because the bootlickers are already spinning hard that Big Daddy Dom Boris had to do all those things because ~you just wouldn't listen~ rather than him reluctantly doing them three days after even the businesses were screaming in his ear, and that's the kind of attitude that needs to be smothered before the Tories try to apply it to any of the other poo poo they want to do.



He wants to be liked more than he wants to do the right thing. If you close the pubs to save lives people will look at you as a tyrant. If you wait until people are begging you to close the pubs, people will look at you as a hero.

I think the rush to the great outdoors we've seen this weekend is partly because the savvier ones know a lockdown is coming and want one last good day out, and partly because of our cultural belief that fresh air and exercise gives good health. Who doesn't want that in a time of disease?
The same urge that drove pilgrims to Canterbury now drives townies up the miner's track in rockports with a carrier bag full of carling. The goal is the same- salvation.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

That article's a good overview though - I wonder if one of the advisors who's appeared with Johnson is going to be scapegoated for all this when it starts to really take off. "We're following the science, we have always followed the science" really has that ring of "it was him, he said to do things this way"

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

ThomasPaine posted:

I've just come up with the best idea to deal with my landlord (who won't let me end my contract a month early and insists I pay the rent on a flat I'm not living in).

I'm going to send her an email tomorrow saying let me cut it short or I pay the rent next month, but I also hand the key to a homeless person when I leave. It's my flat, and while I'm renting it I can let whoever the hell I want stay there.

Perfect, absolutely perfect. A total win-win.

Or you could say, in that case I won't pay the rent and I won't leave and you'll have to evict me through the courts.
(That'll take very very many moons).

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Anyone that goes to Barry Island willingly deserves everything they get.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

What's wrong with that?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Apparently Johnson only took more decisive action yesterday because Macron gave him an ultimatum:

https://twitter.com/quatremer/status/1241456825238720514?s=20

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Lungboy posted:

Anyone that goes to Barry Island willingly deserves everything they get.

Yeah but Barry Island is South Wales.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yeah but Barry Island is South Wales.

The quoted text from the article that didn't appear when I quoted it mentioned Barry.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Or you could say, in that case I won't pay the rent and I won't leave and you'll have to evict me through the courts.
(That'll take very very many moons).

I'm leaving because I very much want to get out of the epicentre of the pandemic asap!

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
There's mini eggs in my fridge but they've only been in there 2.5 days not the full 3 needed for proper quarantine of plastic. This is torture (but also good for my diet).

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
They're going to try and spin this but I think it'll get hard once we hit Italy's numbers

https://twitter.com/KeejayOV2/status/1241488768286240768?s=19

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

They're going to try and spin this but I think it'll get hard once we hit Italy's numbers

https://twitter.com/KeejayOV2/status/1241488768286240768?s=19

This might finally make the olds get the loving message at least.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm leaving because I very much want to get out of the epicentre of the pandemic asap!

Yes I get that, but they don't need to know that!

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

sassassin posted:

What's wrong with that?

it just sounded funny in that awkwardly americanised way

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jose posted:

They're going to try and spin this but I think it'll get hard once we hit Italy's numbers

https://twitter.com/KeejayOV2/status/1241488768286240768?s=19
Thought it was a bit weird for the Express to make a special edition just for Charles but then again about half of them are.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

baka kaba posted:

it just sounded funny in that awkwardly americanised way

It's the new england journal

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm leaving because I very much want to get out of the epicentre of the pandemic asap!

Make sure you take meter readings, and in this instance I'd contact the suppliers etc and give them the readings as you move out - and pay the bills.
And make sure Everything is redirected (or not cared about) before your abandon date.

(I had to abandon a flat many years ago when the wife walked out and I was suddenly a single person in a 2 bed flat that housing benefit wouldn't cover- the bills have more potential to give you grief down the line then the landlord)

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
Coronavirus is kind of an extreme way to way to get the spotlight off Andrew.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

baka kaba posted:

That article's a good overview though - I wonder if one of the advisors who's appeared with Johnson is going to be scapegoated for all this when it starts to really take off. "We're following the science, we have always followed the science" really has that ring of "it was him, he said to do things this way"

Maybe not right when it starts to kick off (because we'll have bigger things to worry about at that exact moment) but seeing as we seem to be following Italy's trajectory and therefore probably going to rack up an at least moderately horrific death toll, I'd hope we'll some sort of public inquiry into the handling of this. if we do then that will definitely be the politicians' defence, and I actually don't think it's entirely unreasonable.

The political response has obviously been muddled and far too slow and limited, so the politicians should definitely shoulder some portion most of the blame, but I genuinely think the experts should come in for a kicking on this too.

If the government has genuinely been acting on their advice, then that advice was obviously flawed. Flawed in a way that any observer could see and for which there really is no excuse, given the information about this disease was freely available for weeks or months before they decided to use it and declare the science "changed".

If the government wasn't following their advice or chose one particular model over another because they preferred its predictions or the reporting of the advice has been misleading, or something like that, then obviously the blame rests more with the politicians. If the "nudge unit" had as much to do with the government's initial (deliberate lack of) strategy as has been suggested, then that's probably a situation where I'd blame the politicians mostly.

XMNN fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Mar 21, 2020

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

baka kaba posted:

it just sounded funny in that awkwardly americanised way

"Soccer" is absolutely the right word there because it was originally coined (in England) specifically to differentiate it from rugby.

Of course a big part of the problem is that we use "authorities" even to refer to singular entities, so "football authorities" on its own would have made most people think just of the FA, "football authorities (both rugby and football)" traps you in a recursive linguistic loop, and "football authorities (both rugby and association)" would have both been clunkier and also still ambiguous because guess what the governing authority for rugby is called?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Guavanaut posted:

theenglish.jpg


how the hell do you cook a chicken(?) breast and not even get a tiny bit of colour on it, that shouldn't even be possible

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Apparently Johnson only took more decisive action yesterday because Macron gave him an ultimatum:

https://twitter.com/quatremer/status/1241456825238720514?s=20

For those of us who don't speak French?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Since I have to go to work I can't stay home and as a result just walked to the local offlicense to get some sweets

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Julio Cruz posted:

how the hell do you cook a chicken(?) breast and not even get a tiny bit of colour on it, that shouldn't even be possible

boil it??

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

goddamnedtwisto posted:

"Soccer" is absolutely the right word there because it was originally coined (in England) specifically to differentiate it from rugby.

Of course a big part of the problem is that we use "authorities" even to refer to singular entities, so "football authorities" on its own would have made most people think just of the FA, "football authorities (both rugby and football)" traps you in a recursive linguistic loop, and "football authorities (both rugby and association)" would have both been clunkier and also still ambiguous because guess what the governing authority for rugby is called?

you could just say "rugby and football authorities" and I think people would get it!

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Jedit posted:

For those of us who don't speak French?

do you want the whole thing or just the tweet?

Macron threatened to close the French borders to the British (and the rest of the EU would have followed suit) if Boris didn't order a shutdown

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 22, 2020

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jedit posted:

For those of us who don't speak French?

Almost every word in that headline has an English derivative, just pretend it's weirdly-spelled English and even if you've never heard a word of French "Emannuel Macron menaced Boris Johnson [...] the French border [...] no decided measures sanitary" is pretty easily understood as saying what Jaeluni described it as.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

baka kaba posted:

you could just say "rugby and football authorities" and I think people would get it!

But that would be ambiguous because the game is literally called "Rugby football", and someone used to writing in medical journals probably doesn't think "Ah, they'll know what I mean".

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Almost every word in that headline has an English derivative, just pretend it's weirdly-spelled English

Ah so it’s just someone typing in a ____________ accent then

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jedit posted:

For those of us who don't speak French?


Google translate:

quote:

Emmanuel Macron threatened Boris Johnson to close the French borders if he did not decide on sanitary measures

After an ultimatum on the question of borders, the British Prime Minister had to resolve to "ask", not without reluctance to close the gathering places in his country.
  Coronavirus: behind the scenes of the standoff between Emmanuel Macron and Boris Johnson
Everything was ready to close the border between France and the United Kingdom by Friday evening. In the morning, Emmanuel Macron called the British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, to warn him: if he persisted in taking no measures to stop the progression of the coronavirus pandemic on his territory, France would have no other choice to refuse entry to its territory to all travelers from the United Kingdom, that is to say to consider it as a third country. And all the other European states would have done the same, which would have been very bad news for the British economy and the government's "benign neglect" policy. "We clearly had to threaten him so that he would finally move," we recognize at the Elysee. The ultimatum fixed, "BoJo" had to resolve to "ask", not without reluctance, in pubs, cafes, bars, restaurants and other places of social gathering, such as theaters, cinemas and gyms to close at

Liberation reserves this article for its subscribers


https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2020/03/21/coronavirus-les-coulisses-du-bras-de-fer-entre-emmanuel-macron-et-boris-johnson_1782622

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

The EU saves the British from themselves? Who would've thought.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Of course a big part of the problem is that we use "authorities" even to refer to singular entities, so "football authorities" on its own would have made most people think just of the FA, "football authorities (both rugby and football)" traps you in a recursive linguistic loop, and "football authorities (both rugby and association)" would have both been clunkier and also still ambiguous because guess what the governing authority for rugby is called?
the football authorities (both soccer and rugger)

*dies of public school*

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
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Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
literally murder every landlord

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
Like the argument of X funds the contruction of Y, Y existing is good so X claiming some excess profit from Y after their investment is legit morally sound, I've never had a problem with the basic concept. But between mass financialisation, rentierism, lack of social housing builds and the broader lack of action on costs of living vs wages there isn't any moral or intellectual justification for the continued existence of landlordism as it currently functions. These people are human filth. It's literal parasites causing a tremendous amount of pain to people that are their objective value creation and moral superiors, it's grotesque and inefficient and it can't continue. I really hope there emerges a humane way to deal with the landlord issue.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1241367239900778501?s=21

lol, Trump is literally encouraging everyone to poison themselves, and there are already casualties in Nigeria.

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