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Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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central dogma posted:

Fear not, this is not a gastrointestinal disease. You probably just had some bad taco bell.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/covid-19-digestive-symptoms-are-common

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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
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central dogma posted:

Fear not, this is not a gastrointestinal disease. You probably just had some bad taco bell.

There seems to be conflicting reports on whether or not gastrointestinal symptoms are common or not.

Hopefully I don't have the roni :shrug:. Given that there's only been like two or three confirmed cases in my area I sincerely doubt I have it but who knows. The only time I even leave my house aside from getting the essentials is to do the occasional walk and I avoid other people when doing that.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

PROCEED

Ginette Reno posted:

This poo poo is stressful as gently caress because any time you feel even remotely off you're gonna wonder if you caught the Roni.

Yeah, any time my knees ache, or I get a tickle in my throat, I start wondering if I can take a deep breath or not and my anxiety kicks in. It's been like this for a week and it's exhausting. I go to bed wondering how I'll feel in the morning now.

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001

That says 15% had diarrhea. Not particularly common but not so rare that you should use it to say you don't have it.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Kase Im Licht posted:

That says 15% had diarrhea. Not particularly common but not so rare that you should use it to say you don't have it.

What if I have diarrhea 15% of my life

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

There seems to be conflicting reports on whether or not gastrointestinal symptoms are common or not.

Hopefully I don't have the roni :shrug:. Given that there's only been like two or three confirmed cases in my area I sincerely doubt I have it but who knows. The only time I even leave my house aside from getting the essentials is to do the occasional walk and I avoid other people when doing that.

GI symptoms are common, according to the researchers actually checking for them. I haven't seen any studies suggesting otherwise but plenty are simply not mentioning them, since the GI symptoms aren't the real issue.

Chinese researchers posted a study where over half of covid-19 patients complained of at least one GI symptom, such as diarrhea, anorexia, vomiting, etc when being checked in. Anyone who tells you that this doesn't have GI symptoms is simply wrong

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

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BlackIronHeart posted:

Yeah, any time my knees ache, or I get a tickle in my throat, I start wondering if I can take a deep breath or not and my anxiety kicks in. It's been like this for a week and it's exhausting. I go to bed wondering how I'll feel in the morning now.

Yeah, I feel you there. It's stressful for sure.

QuarkJets posted:

GI symptoms are common, according to the researchers actually checking for them. I haven't seen any studies suggesting otherwise but plenty are simply not mentioning them, since the GI symptoms aren't the real issue.

Chinese researchers posted a study where over half of covid-19 patients complained of at least one GI symptom, such as diarrhea, anorexia, vomiting, etc when being checked in. Anyone who tells you that this doesn't have GI symptoms is simply wrong

I'm definitely going to monitor how I feel over the next couple of days. I've been socially isolating as is as much as possible. If I still have stomach issues tomorrow - or any other issues - I'll definitely be concerned.

HazCat
May 4, 2009



I have 6/12 of these symptoms, but I'm still probably heading into work tomorrow because I can't afford to burn up my sick leave without knowing whether I'll get special leave or rent relief if my store is shut down :shrug:

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

HazCat posted:



I have 6/12 of these symptoms, but I'm still probably heading into work tomorrow because I can't afford to burn up my sick leave without knowing whether I'll get special leave or rent relief if my store is shut down :shrug:
I'm so sorry. The 13th symptom is being bad at simplifying fractions.

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001

sweet thursday posted:

What if I have diarrhea 15% of my life
That's just one day a week. Probably more efficient to just have one day a week to do all your pooping.

HazCat
May 4, 2009

sweet thursday posted:

I'm so sorry. The 13th symptom is being bad at simplifying fractions.

I'm sorry, I was too busy worrying about possibly becoming homeless to be one character more efficient in my typing. You can imagine how embarrassed I am.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

HazCat posted:

I'm sorry, I was too busy worrying about possibly becoming homeless to be one character more efficient in my typing. You can imagine how embarrassed I am.
We are all in this together ✊

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

Just yesterday caught some news on CBC where they brought in a medical expert to explain the risks of viral transmission in the current environment of the takeout-only restaurants if the person making your food is infected with covid-19. The medical guest claimed that the risk of infection from contaminated food is low, akin to talking to the person for 1 second, and is basically not-dangerous to consume.

Now I'm reading an article on WebMD that says otherwise:

Spiegel explained how the digestive symptoms arise. "The virus enters human cells through the ACE2 receptor in the lungs but also in other body parts, including the GI tract. We think the virus gets into saliva and we swallow it, and then it passes through the acid layer in some patients and uses the ACE2 receptors to enter epithelial cells that line the intestine."

The virus replicates rapidly in the cells of the GI lining, enters the intestinal tract, and is shed, Spiegel said. "There is clear evidence from endoscopy that it can damage the stomach and the intestines. The fact that these patients do worse may be that more of the body is involved."


Looking forward to eating some tainted McDicks somewhere...

Ex-Priest Tobin
May 25, 2014

by Reene
Should I go to the dentist now? I'm living in a major city with confirmed cases. I need to get a couple of fillings and have an appointment later this week.

I will be basing my decision on the advice received from this thread. Thanks in advance.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Ex-Priest Tobin posted:

Should I go to the dentist now? I'm living in a major city with confirmed cases. I need to get a couple of fillings and have an appointment later this week.

I will be basing my decision on the advice received from this thread. Thanks in advance.

Only thing you should be filling is a sofa

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
So 26,000 cases and 200,000 tests done in the US. 13% positive is lower than I would think if they're mostly just testing people with symptoms, direct connections to positive cases/areas, and celebrities.

The surge in positive tests has also driven the death rate way way down. Maybe the matching deaths come in a week but if the positives cases are driven by more testing, not a change in the actual characteristics of the population, then that doesn't make sense, unless there's an unfortunate and coincidental surge in cases at the same time testing capacity ramped up.



Ex-Priest Tobin posted:

Should I go to the dentist now? I'm living in a major city with confirmed cases. I need to get a couple of fillings and have an appointment later this week.

I will be basing my decision on the advice received from this thread. Thanks in advance.

They're probably already working through their list of appointments to let everyone know they're canceled.

kloa
Feb 14, 2007


lmao good luck getting an appt

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Ex-Priest Tobin posted:

Should I go to the dentist now? I'm living in a major city with confirmed cases. I need to get a couple of fillings and have an appointment later this week.

I will be basing my decision on the advice received from this thread. Thanks in advance.

Nope, unless you're literally ready to rip the tooth out of your own head, stay home.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
clearly the poo poo about the DTs is facetious because everybody knows some piece of poo poo alkie strung out enough to get the DTs will always get to the listerine aisle asap

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Ex-Priest Tobin
May 25, 2014

by Reene
Ok. I'm going to cancel then. Thanks guys.

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Here's my last two weeks:

Monday the 9th almost the entire medical center where I work went to modified access. Doors are locked, anyone setting foot in the building gets screened and either gets an armband and continues on or (for people with travel history/symptoms) gets a mask and sent to me and my clinic. We are in full PPE, screen the patient further, get full vitals, have a huge checklist of poo poo to ask them about travel, sick contacts, etc. etc. Then we try to contact whatever doc they're seeing to let them know:

a. patient has travel history and/or symptoms
b. you can either see them in isolation in our clinic or they can reschedule

Pregnant women are the only exception, and we have a whole different protocol for them once they're screened so they can see their OB.

I'm happy we're doing all this, but we are all absolutely exhausted, and quickly running out of PPE and appropriate cleaning agents. Luckily this week people seem to have gotten the message, and there's been a MASSIVE decrease in patients coming in, so that's a little cause for hope.

Of course, we've had to have security escort a few people out because they bullshitted to our screeners about travel/symptoms and got caught at their destination (where everyone is screened again). loving morons.

Luckily, testing centers are springing up around the city, and the hope is we'll continue to see the people we need to see, but not anyone else (like people for physicals, routine follow-ups, non-emergent surgeries, etc.).

I'm sort of resigned to getting covid at this point, I'm in my 40s and healthy, so I'm not too terrified that it'll kill me. I just don't want to bring it home to my wife and kid, so I'm undressing in a specifically designated spot in the garage everyday, none of my stuff comes inside, and I go straight into the shower from there. It's obsessive, but I couldn't live with doing any less to keep it out.

Anyhow, that was my last

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Kase Im Licht posted:

So 26,000 cases and 200,000 tests done in the US. 13% positive is lower than I would think if they're mostly just testing people with symptoms, direct connections to positive cases/areas, and celebrities.

The surge in positive tests has also driven the death rate way way down. Maybe the matching deaths come in a week but if the positives cases are driven by more testing, not a change in the actual characteristics of the population, then that doesn't make sense, unless there's an unfortunate and coincidental surge in cases at the same time testing capacity ramped up.
My guess is that the reason our death rate is low right now is because the hospitals are not quite overwhelmed outside of NYC and WA/CA. So for the time being if you get a bad case of it, you are still likely to get the proper treatment. Italy's higher death rate is a combination of the average age patient admitted being high, and their ERs are overwhelmed with cases so they are having to triage in the worst possible way due to limited resources.

Csixtyfour
Jan 14, 2004
Anti-Vaxxers sticking to there guns on facebook, were loving doomed.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

EVERY TIME GOING posted:

Just yesterday caught some news on CBC where they brought in a medical expert to explain the risks of viral transmission in the current environment of the takeout-only restaurants if the person making your food is infected with covid-19. The medical guest claimed that the risk of infection from contaminated food is low, akin to talking to the person for 1 second, and is basically not-dangerous to consume.

Now I'm reading an article on WebMD that says otherwise:

Spiegel explained how the digestive symptoms arise. "The virus enters human cells through the ACE2 receptor in the lungs but also in other body parts, including the GI tract. We think the virus gets into saliva and we swallow it, and then it passes through the acid layer in some patients and uses the ACE2 receptors to enter epithelial cells that line the intestine."

The virus replicates rapidly in the cells of the GI lining, enters the intestinal tract, and is shed, Spiegel said. "There is clear evidence from endoscopy that it can damage the stomach and the intestines. The fact that these patients do worse may be that more of the body is involved."


Looking forward to eating some tainted McDicks somewhere...

The fact of the matter is that we don't have much information to go on.

That article doesn't really contradict what you were being told, if a sick food preparer is even a little bit diligent about sanitation. You're not getting sick from 1 virus particle landing on your pizza, but someone sneezing in your salad may be a different story. We don't know. I'm inclined to believe that hot food is probably safer than cold food, especially food that you can readily reheat prior to ingestion, but that's an educated guess. Most of the literature is focused on raw foods; the recommendation from the WHO is to avoid raw foods since normal cooking temperatures obliterate the virus

And even if you did get infected from food, the GI route is mostly protected by the stomach, and virus isn't going to travel from your intestines to your lungs unless you literally eat your own poo poo so it's less of a problem than the nasal route of infection.

AnnoyBot
May 28, 2001

Ex-Priest Tobin posted:

Should I go to the dentist now? I'm living in a major city with confirmed cases. I need to get a couple of fillings and have an appointment later this week.

I will be basing my decision on the advice received from this thread. Thanks in advance.

I have no idea if this is valid, but could they write you a scrip for Prevident high fluoride toothpaste so you can hobble along without your mouth exploding, at least for a while?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm just going to figure my usual nasal problems are just the hayfever.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
I'm really glad I got a long overdue haircut the week before all this lol.

Atomic Robo-Kid
Aug 18, 2008

.Blast.Processing.

central dogma posted:

Fear not, this is not a gastrointestinal disease. You probably just had some bad taco bell.

Justin Credible
Aug 27, 2003

happy cat


Going in to work tomorrow morning. Part of the food supply chain. My company only seriously starting enacting any kind of real helpful policies for all this this last week. Our workers are exposed to people that travel all over the country and frequently have poor personal hygiene practices. They are offering no additional help for their employees past whatever the government decrees. Our CEO watches the 24/7 news cycle to stay 'on top of it'. I'm skilled labor. I don't make even within 6 dollars of the median wage in my county.

If everyone that currently has to work is so essential that the government is LITERALLY saying 'these people are necessary for the avoidance of the complete collapse of our nation', why is the value of our labor so low?

It isn't. It just funnels to people who actually do very little to nothing of actual value.

I just hope this whole thing is waking people up to this reality. Maybe a third party will actually have a chance to win come November, considering the kind of poo poo that's been going on daily.

Stay safe everyone.

whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009

2024 Comeback Poster of the Year
I will never get anything but deliciousness from Taco Bell.



I refuse to believe anything else.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Grape posted:

I'm really glad I got a long overdue haircut the week before all this lol.

I did not get my overdue haircut but it's not like I'm going anywhere

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




Somethingthatdidhappen2020.txt:
The tracker on the CBC website showing 3253 "new confirmed cases reported since yesterday at 11:59pm" at 10 past midnight.

whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009

2024 Comeback Poster of the Year
Cutting your own hair isn't THAT hard.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


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Andrast posted:

I did not get my overdue haircut but it's not like I'm going anywhere

I’m not gonna bother cutting my hair or shaving. My job closed and I’m pretty much gonna be playing video games and playing with doggies until then.

WaffleZombie
May 10, 2003

"Identity Crisis" Murderer Wild Guess #333:Prince "Lady Killer Charming "Well, I AM the Adversa"



Andrast posted:

I did not get my overdue haircut but it's not like I'm going anywhere

I've started to wonder if buzzcuts are about to become a defacto hairstyle for guys. That or we'll see a huge uptick in fully shaved heads.

whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009

2024 Comeback Poster of the Year
Fades really aren't that hard.

horse_ebookmarklet
Oct 6, 2003

can I play too?
I am completely unprepared for this as far as PPE is concerned.
So, after COVID-19 is all over, lets say i start to stockpile gloves, respirators, etc.
When the next one hits, is it ethical to keep my stockpile? I should donate my resources to hospitals, if I have them, right?
At the same time, i'm not the god drat national strategic reserve, is a failure to plan an emergency on my part?

morally and financially the easy option for me is not to prepare other than the personal whiskey reserves?

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

lambskin posted:

A bunch of healthcare workers in Saskatchewan have tested positive for the Roni. They got it from a loving curling meet in Edmonton.

Dear lord

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/13-covid-19-cases-doctors-attended-curling-bonspiel-1.5505940

quote:

Thirteen confirmed cases of COVID-19 have been linked to a curling bonspiel attended by 50 to 60 doctors from across western Canada.

The bonspiel took place in Edmonton March 11-14, starting the same day COVID-19 was declared a global pandemic.

Saskatchewan's chief medical health officer Dr. Shaqib Shahab said 11 of those cases are "front-line health care staff and physicians" from Regina, Saskatoon, and Prince Albert. The other two are people connected to the University of Calgary's Cumming School of Medicine.

Additionally, three doctors from Manitoba are in self-isolation following their attendance at the event.

He said 22 people from Saskatchewan attended the event, meaning half of those people contracted the virus.

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children overboard
Apr 3, 2009

Ex-Priest Tobin posted:

Should I go to the dentist now? I'm living in a major city with confirmed cases. I need to get a couple of fillings and have an appointment later this week.

I will be basing my decision on the advice received from this thread. Thanks in advance.

I’d get it done now if the confirmed count cases are still low. You might not be able to get it done for a long time if it gets bad in your area. You’re not going to a bar or a crowded beach for fun, I think this is fine to go get done and prevent your teefs getting worse

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