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LingcodKilla posted:Man loving mypay too right? ~an SOF marine
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Mar 22, 2020 15:14
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:
no CT unit with the grape vines patch
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Mar 22, 2020 15:34
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Were you in the Florida unit with the astronaut-dude patch?
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For the .50 myth I always just asked them "so why doesn't that happen when they shoot paper targets?"
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Mar 22, 2020 15:46
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not caring here posted:For the .50 myth I always just asked them "so why doesn't that happen when they shoot paper targets?" 50 cal cant burst paper reams
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Mar 22, 2020 15:55
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not caring here posted:For the .50 myth I always just asked them "so why doesn't that happen when they shoot paper targets?" Paper is obviously stronger than flesh, haven't you ever gotten a paper cut?
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Mar 22, 2020 15:57
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LingcodKilla posted:50 cal cant burst paper reams 
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Mar 22, 2020 16:00
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M16A2s are still in some combat arms active duty units. Rare but still a thing. M4 fielding taking longer than XM17 fielding somehow.
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Mar 22, 2020 16:05
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We had 2 M4s per infantry platoon when I left in 2006, everyone else had an M16A4 (except SAWs and 240Bs obviously). I guess the M4s were a priority for light infantry since a weapon you can make smaller is obviously not needed for dudes that have to cram themselves in the back of a Bradley.
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Mar 22, 2020 16:26
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:We had 2 M4s per infantry platoon when I left in 2006, everyone else had an M16A4 (except SAWs and 240Bs obviously). I guess the M4s were a priority for light infantry since a weapon you can make smaller is obviously not needed for dudes that have to cram themselves in the back of a Bradley. Lighter is needed for the dudes who need to carry everything and don't get to ride in the back of a Bradley 
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Mar 22, 2020 16:43
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Jarmak posted:Lighter is needed for the dudes who need to carry everything and don't get to ride in the back of a Bradley *Raises hand* *pops both knees* *might be limping today, who knows*
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Mar 22, 2020 16:50
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:We had 2 M4s per infantry platoon when I left in 2006, everyone else had an M16A4 (except SAWs and 240Bs obviously). I guess the M4s were a priority for light infantry since a weapon you can make smaller is obviously not needed for dudes that have to cram themselves in the back of a Bradley. You were never going to be comfortable in the back of a Bradley, so they knew the M4 would be better off in the hands of an officer.
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Mar 22, 2020 16:57
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Internet Wizard posted:Who told you that because lol that's impossible wouldn't this possibly be an issue if you had an M16A1? Not loving up the barrel but modern ammo (e.g. M855) not working as intended?
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Mar 22, 2020 17:07
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Flying_Crab posted:wouldn't this possibly be an issue if you had an M16A1? Not loving up the barrel but modern ammo (e.g. M855) not working as intended? Nah the only thing barrel twist would do is this Flikken posted:Gonna go gun spurg for a second and some of memory might be wrong on this. But IIRC Different twist rates stabilize different bullet weights better or worse. Using the wrong bullet weight for your barrel will mean your groups will open up considerably, even at shorter distances.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:11
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British ammo should be fine but don’t try to shoot Australian ammo out of a northern hemisphere barrel.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:11
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goatsestretchgoals posted:British ammo should be fine but don’t try to shoot Australian ammo out of a northern hemisphere barrel. That's right, the barrel will unthread itself with the bullet only halfway down its length and the whole thing explodes.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:13
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the barrel twist rate doesn't matter because of a little thing I like to call nato which means they use the same grain of bullet
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Mar 22, 2020 17:36
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PookBear posted:the barrel twist rate doesn't matter because of a little thing I like to call nato which means they use the same grain of bullet M193 and M855 are two different grains of 5.56mm NATO.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:38
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:I flew over as a replacement, I landed in Kuwait a day or two before the invasion started. To say that we got equipped with whatever was still laying around is accurate. I had an M16A2 with iron sights but at least I got to zero it. At first all they had for us was tracers, but eventually they gave us British ammo would gently caress up our weapons because of the barrel twist, which was nice. I just want to say god drat that is a great username
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Mar 22, 2020 17:43
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Flikken posted:M193 and M855 are two different grains of 5.56mm NATO. yes and the brits use "Round, Ball, L2A2: 5.56×45mm FN SS109 equivalent produced by Radway Green"
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Mar 22, 2020 17:51
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The hell is all this tactitech talk in here
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Mar 22, 2020 18:11
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Yeah, we had G36s, and MG3s and some old G3s, majority of the ammo we used was 5.56... ...oh wait, that's right, we didn't have money for ammo. 
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Mar 22, 2020 18:15
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https://twitter.com/zlingray/status/1241577915789086720?s=20
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Mar 22, 2020 18:21
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Yeah, we had G36s, and MG3s and some old G3s, majority of the ammo we used was 5.56... If you're using 5.56 in an MG3, I think i have discovered your problem.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:22
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https://twitter.com/kbrady90/status/1241775101001043968?s=20 Stay safe German folks; we're just over here winging it state-by-state
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Mar 22, 2020 18:29
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Yeah, we had G36s, and MG3s and some old G3s, majority of the ammo we used was 5.56... well you see after we got done kicking the poo poo out of you nazi grandpa, the US realized that the UK's hosed up 303 rimmed cartridge hosed up logistics so we decided to standardize ammo so that the US and UK can use each others ammo. When the US switched to a heavier 5.56 bullet so did the rest of nato which means that the dude that had british ammo would have had functionally similar ammo to what the US was using.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:30
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https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1241740081343447040
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Mar 22, 2020 18:31
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Jarmak posted:Lighter is needed for the dudes who need to carry everything and don't get to ride in the back of a Bradley That actually is correct. gently caress walking.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:42
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My knees and back bother me but gently caress having to maintain a loving track vehicle.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:44
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https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1241780756617273345?s=20 
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Mar 22, 2020 18:45
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CPAC flu strikes again
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Mar 22, 2020 18:46
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PookBear posted:yes and the brits use "Round, Ball, L2A2: 5.56×45mm FN SS109 equivalent produced by Radway Green" You know we are talking about 17 years ago. Ehhh it's a stupid argument anyway.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:48
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SimonCat posted:If you're using 5.56 in an MG3, I think i have discovered your problem. The connected joke there was supposed to be that we barely used our MG3s, and never used the G3s, because - again - money. There was one occasion where we were on manoeuver (loving christ, I tried typing this like three times and Chrome autocorrect is still unhappy with it, so you get MANÖVER), and for some completely undiscernible reason, we suddenly had an absolutely abundant load of ammo to go through. And I'm not just talking a regular day on the range that was "blessed by the gods" and we had enough live 5.56 for our G36 STANAG rifles, and enough plastic 7.62 MANÖVERMUNITION (plastic cartridges with blasting caps that produced just enough recoil for a firearm to cycle with a mounted MPG) for our LAGEDARSTELLUNGSPERSONAL (German OPFOR). I'm talking "enough 5.56 for every single deutschbag to stock up six full mags, and upwards of 14.000 rounds of BRASS 7.62 Manövermunition (the expensive kind of fake ammo) for our 8 unmotivated OPFOR duders. None of us could ever wrap our heads around that situation, and we never got a good explanation for it. Some of us were so dumbfounded at the sudden availability of funds for training that they legit believed an actual shooting war must have been on the horizon. Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/kbrady90/status/1241775101001043968?s=20 The irony of today's announcement by Mutti is that it's not actually a legal escalation of what's already ongoing. The thing that was expected in her address today was a country-wide curfew, and that didn't happen. The only state-wide curfew still in effect is in Bavaria, and I'm assuming the government eyeballed the large reduction in infection-quote over the last three days and decided against shutting the entire motherfucker down. I haven't had a public-address vehicle rolling through my neighborhood, telling me to "VNIMANYIE, VNIMANYIE" since 1pm today, so I'm chalking that up to an improvement.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:48
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https://twitter.com/TheLoveBel0w/status/1241783186755026948
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PookBear posted:well you see after we got done kicking the poo poo out of you nazi grandpa, the US realized that the UK's hosed up 303 rimmed cartridge hosed up logistics so we decided to standardize ammo so that the US and UK can use each others ammo. When the US switched to a heavier 5.56 bullet so did the rest of nato which means that the dude that had british ammo would have had functionally similar ammo to what the US was using. It's fair to note that the US insisted on using 7.62 NATO even after everyone else realized that full powered rifle rounds in a standard infantry rifle was completely unnecessary (especially if you planned to use it on full auto), and this decision hosed over the rest of NATO as they were on the cusp of introducing rifles (and in the British case, already had) chambered in .280
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Acebuckeye13 posted:It's fair to note that the US insisted on using 7.62 NATO even after everyone else realized that full powered rifle rounds in a standard infantry rifle was completely unnecessary (especially if you planned to use it on full auto), and this decision hosed over the rest of NATO as they were on the cusp of introducing rifles (and in the British case, already had) chambered in .280 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.276_Pedersen "Developed in 1923 in the United States, it was intended to replace the .30-06 Springfield in new semi-automatic rifles and machine guns. When first recommended for adoption, M1 Garand rifles were chambered for the .276 Pedersen, which held ten rounds in its unique en-bloc clips. The .276 Pedersen was a shorter, lighter and lower pressure round than the .30-06, which made the design of an autoloading rifle easier than the long, powerful .30-06. The U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Douglas MacArthur rejected the .276 Pedersen Garand in 1932 after verifying that a .30-06 version was feasible." we make awful decisions when it comes to calibers.
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Mar 22, 2020 19:18
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Hey, err, I dunno what just happened but apparently the we're reporting an extra 14,000 cases just today. On the other hand hahahaha, suck it
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Mar 22, 2020 19:18
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not caring here posted:Hey, err, I dunno what just happened but apparently the we're reporting an extra 14,000 cases just today. Testing
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Mar 22, 2020 19:22
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not caring here posted:Hey, err, I dunno what just happened but apparently the we're reporting an extra 14,000 cases just today. For the US as a whole or within a given state? New York apparently has 12,000+ more positives today.
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PookBear posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.276_Pedersen To be more fair to Mac than he deserves, he wasn't entirely wrong to be skeptical of introducing a brand-new rifle cartridge at a time when the US military budget was extremely curtailed, and the benefit of using .30-06 in practically everything was that it simplified logistics to a staggering degree. (Enough to overcome the benefits of .276? Debatable, but at least it's far more defensible than... basically everything to have to do with the M-14)
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