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Nektu posted:Lol if you think that the olympic comitee will stop the grift engine for anything. the olympic committee has been on the grift ever since japan was selected for 2020, they've already siphoned what tens? hundreds? of billions of dollars of japanese taxpayers' money. if the horse stops to take a dump at the finish line they don't give a gently caress they made their scratch taking the bets
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm still bewildered that lijian zhao was able to talk all that poo poo not sure he threw out another one about maybe the virus came from Italy! it's exactly the same as the russian MH17 playbook - just throw tons of nonsensical poo poo at the wall and people will get confused and think maybe it's not as clear as it seems to be to me it seems like an unforced error, it makes their positive propaganda efforts (medical outreach, etc) less effective. i'm also not sure if it's more for an internal audience or not - though i'd have to think that would be extremely difficult to make people believe as they kind of lived through having the virus first honestly it just seems dumb
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if it was internal they wouldn't put it on twitter if they punished him it was clearly privately and a slap on the wrist since he's still doing his thing. I wonder if the ccp even has a playbook here or if they're dipping their toes in the water
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Mar 23, 2020 13:39
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Rutibex posted:and this was going to be the Goku Olympics The deathcount! It's over 9000!
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Mar 23, 2020 13:50
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Alan Smithee posted:if it was internal they wouldn't put it on twitter Yet the same nonsense is going around on Weibo and the like, whether that was where the guy heard it and was just his personal thing, or the other way around, or it's both and it's a coordinated thing by the party who knows. Some of the articles are just completely nuts, like made up places and numbers. Some of them look more "reasonable" (as reasonable as something like this could be) and are more like the guy's tweet. It's weird though, because the justification for censoring Chinese social media has always been to "remove false information" but they aren't removing any of the stuff with fake numbers and places. Maybe the censors got the virus 
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BrainDance posted:Yet the same nonsense is going around on Weibo and the like, whether that was where the guy heard it and was just his personal thing, or the other way around, or it's both and it's a coordinated thing by the party who knows. Some of the articles are just completely nuts, like made up places and numbers. Some of them look more "reasonable" (as reasonable as something like this could be) and are more like the guy's tweet. I'm wondering if China is a bit afraid of the world deciding they got off too easy after being responsible for the virus in the first place. Better for people to assume they're lying about a hideous death toll.
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Mar 23, 2020 14:18
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In which case whatever truth they know that we don’t has to be real loving bad
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm still bewildered that lijian zhao was able to talk all that poo poo He's an official government spokesman, so yes. And it's working. A couple of my friends with the worst nationalist brainworms are starting to spread the US did coronavirus meme, and Chinese friends tell me their parents are all in on it. E: An example of state media supporting the same narrative: https://twitter.com/niubi/status/1242111019637448706 E2: Other state media is pushing back on it, looks like there's a fight going on in the state propaganda organs about how to handle this. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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Mar 23, 2020 16:32
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Mozi posted:not sure Alot of the positive propaganda falls flat too when one realizes that the PRC isn't donating things to countries so much as selling them. The "medical outreach" is plague profiteering
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Mar 23, 2020 16:52
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"Hungarians stand in line for guns for fear of disorder as coronavirus spreads" "Russia to use mobile phones to track people at risk of coronavirus" It's like everyone's using this to do what they've always been dreaming of.
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SelenicMartian posted:"Hungarians stand in line for guns for fear of disorder as coronavirus spreads" I feel cheated. I definitely don't dream of staying in an apartment for 3 months and eating delivery food.
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Atopian posted:I feel cheated. I definitely don't dream of staying in an apartment for 3 months and eating delivery food. What kind of goon are you
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Thinkpiece: “Japan’s hikkikimori we’re prepared for this. It is time America’s incels step up to the plate”
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Alan Smithee posted:Thinkpiece: “Japan’s hikkikimori we’re prepared for this. It is time America’s incels step up to the plate” Don’t hikikomori mostly rely on their aging parents for support? This could devastate the sector.
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Lazyhound posted:Don’t hikikomori mostly rely on their aging parents for support? This could devastate the sector. The F Plus had an episode about NEETs and so many of them were just planning on punching their own ticket when their parents die. It’s grim to think about with this going on.
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https://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/property-news/billionaires-searching-private-islands-country-escapes-coronavirus-a137451.htmlquote:Thoughtful billionaires are hitting a romantic note. Instead of sending his girlfriend flowers, one client has asked us to deliver a bouquet made up of hand sanitiser, face masks, wipes — and, of course flowers. quote:Private islands have suddenly become popular, too. One client is taking a private jet to the Caribbean to view Île de Caille four miles off the coast of Grenada. Location is everything — it’s 15 miles from the airport. What's CCP leadership doing in these tiring times? Oh, hey https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1242140945396662273 Dick Pound??? SelenicMartian fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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I said something like "it's good to hear in the news the virus is slowing down in China" to this dude in GZ I'm dealing with and got back:
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d0s posted:I said something like "it's good to hear in the news the virus is slowing down in China" to this dude in GZ I'm dealing with and got back: I have no idea what this is saying
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Mar 23, 2020 23:49
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SelenicMartian posted:Dick Pound??? Yup, that's his name. Canadians are used to it, but it's always amusing seeing other people hear of him for the first time.
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Mar 23, 2020 23:52
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Alan Smithee posted:I have no idea what this is saying the stuff blurred out is just stuff to do with my shipment so there isn't any more to it than that. my brain translated it to "Don't believe the CCP propaganda, because Chinese people don't believe it. It is only for making foreigners believe the CCP is the greatest party in the world" but yeah who knows
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Mar 24, 2020 00:02
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SelenicMartian posted:https://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/property-news/billionaires-searching-private-islands-country-escapes-coronavirus-a137451.html god dammit that means we're gonna lose comiket in 2021 too fuckin hate the olympics
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Mar 24, 2020 00:23
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I'mma just order my Uzai Senpai books online anyway. It's not like I've got anyone to go with
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Virus from china
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I ordered some junk from aliexpress like 6 or 7 weeks ago, I guess it's never going to come and if it does it'll have free gift of disease, been too busy to look if cargo planes from china are still allowed in 
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Fat Jesus posted:I ordered some junk from aliexpress like 6 or 7 weeks ago, I guess it's never going to come and if it does it'll have free gift of disease, been too busy to look if cargo planes from china are still allowed in Not from China, but I asked the Aus. Embassy in Seoul if I would be able to post all my poo poo home before I leave in May, (fingers crossed I'll even be allowed to do that.), and they told me that posting a parcel "should" be fine. But to check with DFAT closer to the date. So very likely your aliexpress stuff is either in a warehouse somewhere on the outskirts of Sydney's west, or just chucked in a fire. Anyway, didn't I hear somewhere that teh COVID-19 doesn't last too long on surfaces outside the body? It is mainly transmitted by person to person and close proximity contact. (As far as I know.)
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BrigadierSensible posted:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf It depends on the surface but yeah, not too long.
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people got overly freaked out over reports it can live for days on surfaces under "ideal conditions" which cargo moving around constantly and being made generally of porous material (cardboard, etc..) isn't. A german study also came out that people were linking around that even eating out or getting delivery is pretty low risk as if everyone follows normal sanitation rules the chances of you being infected from staff or food is very low, and the much bigger risk is other patrons who don't wash their hands and are gross. So stay at home but don't get too scared about delivery or takeout.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Not from China, but I asked the Aus. Embassy in Seoul if I would be able to post all my poo poo Not the Australian embassy in Seoul, but by all means, go ahead.
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Akratic Method posted:"You will always see improvements in exactly what you choose to measure, no more, no less" is one of those really depressing truisms. This is happening with the death% even with doctors as they talk about how all the asymptomatic mean the % is lower while mentioning a couple absolute numbers in isolation. No one talks about the hospitalisation% of those diagonalised with symptoms should be scaring the poo poo out of you at ~20% and that has not as much correlation to age or comorbidity as death%. Even one of the most awesome doctors I follow made this mistake and lowballed the threat a month ago despite that 20% was going to smash him. "Durrr old people tend to die". Stop playing ping pong, go home, play videogame or I will send the police with flame-thrower!!.
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Magna Kaser posted:eating out or getting delivery is pretty low risk as if everyone follows normal sanitation rules the chances of you being infected from staff or food is very low, So, total crapshoot. At least here in nyc from my experience I would not put my life on the line when it comes to kitchen staff cleanliness. E- oh hi chinathread
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I'd take a middle road - it's a very infectious flu that will by and large only kill those who would be killed by the flu in the first case. That said, don't give the loving thing a chance to mutate into a cytokine flu. Stay the gently caress indoors.
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WarpedNaba posted:I'd take a middle road - it's a very infectious flu that will by and large only kill those who would be killed by the flu in the first case. I keep wanting to think that then I see poo poo like this https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients
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i'd like to know how many of these "relatively young" people who die of the virus are obese
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LordArgh posted:i'd like to know how many of these "relatively young" people who die of the virus are obese Or have other unreported health problems.
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LordArgh posted:i'd like to know how many of these "relatively young" people who die of the virus are obese I might be off on the numbers I'd have to go look it up, and I didn't do the math for how many people had 2+ underlying health issues. But I'm sure you've seen how 90some% of the deaths in Italy had at least one underlying condition. For 75% of the deaths in Italy, one of (the only? You know, someone who isn't playing Animal Crossing and has the time is gonna have to do the math) the conditions was "High blood pressure". The condition that one in three or so American adults have. That's tied to obesity so there you go draw some conclusions from that.
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LordArgh posted:i'd like to know how many of these "relatively young" people who die of the virus are obese Vincent Van Goatse posted:Or have other unreported health problems. Good, good, it's starting already. "You brought this on yourselves."
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Switch to other methods of reporting the deaths. Like Russia, where two people in a COVID hospital have died of *checks notes* a chronic condition, and a cancer.
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SelenicMartian posted:Switch to other methods of reporting the deaths. Like Russia, where two people in a COVID hospital have died of *checks notes* a chronic condition, and a cancer. "there are no deaths by covid 19 in russia, instead they died during military operations in the Ukraine"
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SelenicMartian posted:Switch to other methods of reporting the deaths. Like Russia, where two people in a COVID hospital have died of *checks notes* a chronic condition, and a cancer. See also, China reporting less than 200 flu deaths every year.
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McSpanky posted:Good, good, it's starting already. "You brought this on yourselves." it's not about assigning blame. in the article the younger dead patients are described as "relatively healthy". relative to what? given the prevalence of obesity in the american public, i don't think it's a major leap to assume they may indeed have been relatively healthy compared to the average person (who is also obese). if they were objectively healthy you wouldn't need to use that qualifier, so there must be something not right with them. by neglecting to state what that something is they are possibly contributing to creating unnecessary fear among people who are actually healthy.
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