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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

That article did convince me to pick up Kate Elliott's Crossroads as a giant honking fantasy trilogy with giant eagles and a nuanced take on war sounds really good. (Will I ever finish her massive Crown of Stars series? Signs point to: I'm still too traumatized by the mind breaking/rape sequence in book 1, even though the lady escaped and has been working with her trauma to become a badass. Hopefully Crossroads won't contain the same intense awful in it.)

I also grabbed two more of Lilith Saintcrow's works, because the more of her writing I read, the more I love it. It was also funny looking for reviews of Cormorant Run and finding Baru instead, thanks General Batoots.


(yes I will quarantine the package whenever it arrives, it'll sit in the garage for a day before I rip it open and start reading. ebooks are the safest option here but I am a slave to paperbacks)

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Black Griffon posted:

oh poo poo, I don't get the deal in Norway, but that made me think of a question for all of you; what's some good industrial rivalry sci-fi in general?

How about Lem's The Cyberiad ? A lot of the stories are about the rivalry between two inventors.



And I'll second Ash as being a superb book that starts more than a little rough.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


mllaneza posted:

How about Lem's The Cyberiad ? A lot of the stories are about the rivalry between two inventors.

I'm hankering for something grand and serious, but it sounds like a very fun read and my kind of poo poo, so I've added it to my list. Thanks!

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Black Griffon posted:

I can't buy the malazan omnibus in Norway and that annoys me because I want to own an 11 000 page book

More like Malazan Book of the Fallen-On-My-Foot-And-Now-I'm-Crippled

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

Gnoman posted:

So, I've suddenly developed an interest in two very different types of setting, and was hoping somebody would have an idea of where I might find them.


The first type is wholesale integration of science and magic - either in the context of magic being newly rediscovered in an advanced society or a society that developed magic and science in tandem.

Some of Ted Chiang's short stories like "72 Letters" in Stories of Your Life And Others are in this vein.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
I’m going to be doing another reread of LotR, and possibly the Pellinor series (at least the first one). Any recommendations for other more ‘lyrical’ or traditionally epic fantasy series?

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




I'll be adding most of those suggestions to my list. Thank you.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

DreamingofRoses posted:

I’m going to be doing another reread of LotR, and possibly the Pellinor series (at least the first one). Any recommendations for other more ‘lyrical’ or traditionally epic fantasy series?

I recently asked about this! Look here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3900237&pagenumber=64&perpage=40#post503066019

Also scroll down a bit and use all of those suggestions. The folks in here have good recs. (ps read Michelle West)

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost

StrixNebulosa posted:

I recently asked about this! Look here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3900237&pagenumber=64&perpage=40#post503066019

Also scroll down a bit and use all of those suggestions. The folks in here have good recs. (ps read Michelle West)

Excellent! Ty.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Despite her pleas, I'm going to go cry now.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Riot Carol Danvers posted:

Despite her pleas, I'm going to go cry now.

nooooooo

I mean I've got enough books on my kindle to last me to august if I keep buying books at my current rate, but still.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Black Griffon posted:

nooooooo

I mean I've got enough books on my kindle to last me to august if I keep buying books at my current rate, but still.

I have a lot but none that so struck a chord with me as Gideon did. I've been looking forward to that book more than anything else this entire stupid year.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

As a consolation, she's releasing a Gideon short story on the original release date.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Ornamented Death posted:

As a consolation, she's releasing a Gideon short story on the original release date.

:unsmith:

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman - $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FCKENQ/

Summer Knight (Dresden Files #4) by Jim Butcher - $1.99
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The Way of Shadows (Night Angel #1) by Brent Weeks - $2.99
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The Devil You Know (Felix Castor #1) by Mike Carey - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QRIGVM/
Same author as MR Carey who wrote The Girl with All the Gifts

Peace War by Vernor Vinge - $2.99
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Every Vampire Hunter D book - $2.99 each
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There's so many books. Hopefully now you have something to do all alone.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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pradmer posted:

The Devil You Know (Felix Castor #1) by Mike Carey - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QRIGVM/
Same author as MR Carey who wrote The Girl with All the Gifts

This is a very, very good series and I recommend it to all, particularly at $3 a volume.

Velius
Feb 27, 2001

pradmer posted:

Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman - $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FCKENQ/

Summer Knight (Dresden Files #4) by Jim Butcher - $1.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OCXG46/

The Way of Shadows (Night Angel #1) by Brent Weeks - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001E0V112/

The Devil You Know (Felix Castor #1) by Mike Carey - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QRIGVM/
Same author as MR Carey who wrote The Girl with All the Gifts

Peace War by Vernor Vinge - $2.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003E74BSS

Every Vampire Hunter D book - $2.99 each
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074CHFTBH

There's so many books. Hopefully now you have something to do all alone.

The Peace War might be Vinge’s least good book, but it’s still enjoyable. It’s a prequel to Marooned in Real-time which is one of my favorites, a very creative murder mystery in a crazy setting. They’re both a lot shorter and less dense than A Fire Upon the Deep or A Deepness in the Sky, but very enjoyable.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
The only real caveat to the Felix Castor series is the lead just, no matter what, ALWAYS picks the option that is going to end up with him being in a shitton of pain or hurt.

Like if he was offered a winning lotto ticket or a free hammer to hit himself in the dick with, he'd grab the hammer in a heartbeat.

Good series, but kinda frustrating.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

The only real caveat to the Felix Castor series is the lead just, no matter what, ALWAYS picks the option that is going to end up with him being in a shitton of pain or hurt.

Like if he was offered a winning lotto ticket or a free hammer to hit himself in the dick with, he'd grab the hammer in a heartbeat.

Good series, but kinda frustrating.

It has the best succubus character I've ever read, though. Ajulutsikael kicks rear end.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
Thank you for posting all the e-book deals. I buy 2 or 3 books a week because they sound good and only read like 1.5 a week, so the more I've bought on sale the better when I eventually try to buy them full price.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



biracial bear for uncut posted:

It has the best succubus character I've ever read, though. Ajulutsikael kicks rear end.

Agreed, when she first showed up in Devil you Know, my eyes started rolling, but even in the course of that book it was so much better than I anticipated.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Whoops, double post:

I love both Vampire Hunter D movies, how are the books, both in terms of similarity to the movies, and overall quality of writing?

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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MockingQuantum posted:

Agreed, when she first showed up in Devil you Know, my eyes started rolling, but even in the course of that book it was so much better than I anticipated.

I couldn't loving stand Ditko as a character. Asmodeus was ok as an antagonist, but Ditko got a much happier ending than he deserved.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Jedit posted:

This is a very, very good series and I recommend it to all, particularly at $3 a volume.

I really enjoyed The Girl With All The Gifts so this is at least interesting to me, but I have two questions:
- with five books in, is the series finished, or is this going to be another UF series that drags on for half a dozen books after it should have ended?
- how much weight should I be giving the reviews saying it's "almost as good as Dresden Files" given that I really didn't like DF?

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon
Dresden is loving hot garbage and Mike Carey’s writing isn’t.

There’s supposedly a book 6 in the series coming... at some point that will finish it off.

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
I really want to read books that are like the dresden files (funny, kinda brainless, explosions and cool poo poo) without you know... all the sexual assault and misogyny that made me actually throw his short story collection at a wall. So every time I see 'Like the dresden files' I hope it's the fun side. The fact that immediate talk of succubus means I'm worried this one is the other side? Reviews?

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Double post.

Khizan fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Mar 24, 2020

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


coolusername posted:

The fact that immediate talk of succubus means I'm worried this one is the other side? Reviews?

She isn't a seductive temptress so much as she is an apex predator who lures prey in by looking like a pretty woman and overwhelming them with sex pheromones . It's always pretty clear that she is a predator that feeds on men, and it's never written to be sexy. She never acts seductive unless she's actively trying to eat people, and that only really occurs in the first book that I can recall.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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ShutteredIn posted:

Dresden is loving hot garbage and Mike Carey’s writing isn’t.

There’s supposedly a book 6 in the series coming... at some point that will finish it off.

Reminder that Mike Carey wrote the original Lucifer comic books, which spawned the loosely-related Lucifer TV show (which featured in the hilarious TV Crisis event), which is hilarious.

Seconding Dresden being a pile of garbage.

Also Charles Stross's Laundry Files are an interesting read (but a bit dry, though that could be dialing into being as British as possible about everything).

Craig Schaefer's Faust series is kind of similar, and handles everything Dresden fucks up much better (also another series that has a major character succubus that never actually does what succubi do on screen, but beats the ever living poo poo out of things instead).

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
https://craigschaeferbooks.com/blog/2020/3/24/free-books-free-books

3 of Craig Schaefer's books are up for grabs for free at the moment, if you haven't read any of his work, there's 3 diff types of novels he writes, so there's probably something in there you'll enjoy.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

ToxicFrog posted:

I really enjoyed The Girl With All The Gifts so this is at least interesting to me, but I have two questions:
- with five books in, is the series finished, or is this going to be another UF series that drags on for half a dozen books after it should have ended?
- how much weight should I be giving the reviews saying it's "almost as good as Dresden Files" given that I really didn't like DF?

1) Mike planned a sixth book at one point, but the story is functionally complete after book 5. I think he's abandoned the idea now.

2) No weight at all, because the Castor books are so far above the Dresden Files that Jim Butcher couldn't see them with the Hubble Telescope.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

biracial bear for uncut posted:

Reminder that Mike Carey wrote the original Lucifer comic books, which spawned the loosely-related Lucifer TV show (which featured in the hilarious TV Crisis event), which is hilarious.

He also wrote Hellblazer for a bit, and that's a better comparison; the mystery aspect was quite strong. The first one was good, but I didn't read the rest.

Drone Jett
Feb 21, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
College Slice

grassy gnoll posted:

Was Mother as much of a non-stop misery grind as Daughter?

Not at all. It does have some minor character overlap with Dragons of Babel, which I had more or less completely forgotten by the time I read Mother.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Safety Biscuits posted:

He also wrote Hellblazer for a bit, and that's a better comparison; the mystery aspect was quite strong. The first one was good, but I didn't read the rest.

It's a much better comparison, honestly, in that Felix Castor and John Constantine are both scousers transplanted to London who got over their heads in magic a few years previous and caused someone a great deal of harm thereby. The difference is in how they responded to it. Constantine is a self confessed bastard who'll throw anyone under the bus, whereas Castor cares too much even when it's against his own best interests.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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Jedit posted:

It's a much better comparison, honestly, in that Felix Castor and John Constantine are both scousers transplanted to London who got over their heads in magic a few years previous and caused someone a great deal of harm thereby. The difference is in how they responded to it. Constantine is a self confessed bastard who'll throw anyone under the bus, whereas Castor cares too much even when it's against his own best interests.

I don't know, the way he rubbed Matthew's face into what he did to his own son was pretty Constantine-level rear end in a top hat.

pradmer
Mar 31, 2009

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Thanks for the Craig Schaefer news. I hadn't heard about that.

Ancillary Justice (Imperial Radch #1) by Ann Leckie - $3.99
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MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



John Gwynne's Malice is also a Kindle Daily Deal. Any opinions on it? The blurb sounds interesting, though it also seems like it could be kind of bland or cliched in execution.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

MockingQuantum posted:

John Gwynne's Malice is also a Kindle Daily Deal. Any opinions on it? The blurb sounds interesting, though it also seems like it could be kind of bland or cliched in execution.

It's...alright. It has a pretty neat premise, but Gwynne kind of meanders along for way too long.

quantumfoam
Dec 25, 2003

Came across repeated references to a dawn-of-the-internet sci-fi themed mailing list called SF-LOVERS in a book about early internet culture (Netizens, @1995).
Most of the links referenced in the Netizens book are long since dead (ftp servers! lol) but was able to find a semi-curated archive of the SF-LOVERS mailing list at archive.org
https://archive.org/details/SFLoversDigestArchive


Would love to also include links to similar Fantasy Fiction themed dawn-of-the-internet Fantasy mailing lists as well, but have come up empty (Mostly because I'm terribly unimaginative searching online). Anyone with access to usenet archives or vastly better at searching online willing to help out?

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Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

How do you read them? I've opened them with Winzip and now can't even see a file format.

If you liked that you might enjoy the Urth list, which is discussion of Gene Wolfe, and occasionally other writers - it dates back to 1996, so hardly early internet, but hey. All readable online still: http://urth.net/

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