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Another Otter posted:BFLM Prohibition on use of lasers near active runways temporarily lifted.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 17:15 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 20:14 |
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Definitely BFLM.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 17:36 |
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BFLM I don't care if it's a gimmick, I want a lazer.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 17:50 |
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Ivanov, let's try to be semi-reasonable here people. Impractical wonderwaffen is the domain of the fascist and the capitalist
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 18:20 |
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The SA-17 Buk is, objectively, the best system here by far. So Ivanov for me But man, that thing. TheDemon fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Mar 24, 2020 |
# ? Mar 24, 2020 18:21 |
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mcclay posted:let's try to be semi-reasonable here I'm sorry which thread are you in?
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 18:30 |
Warmachine posted:I want to propose a title change. I put in the request to a mod.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 18:36 |
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mcclay posted:Ivanov, let's try to be semi-reasonable here people. Impractical wonderwaffen is the domain of the fascist and the capitalist A vote for A Buk is a vote for a drunk goon to accidentally shoot down a civilian airliner. Vote laser.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 18:51 |
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mcclay posted:Ivanov, let's try to be semi-reasonable here people. Impractical wonderwaffen is the domain of the fascist and the capitalist For me, the deciding factor is not so much the weapon system as it is the detection system. Being able to see something incoming 150 nm out, even if your primary ground response is good for 3 nm, is better than seeing something incoming 60 nm out, even if you can engage it at 27 nm, because of how the OODA loop simulation works.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 19:08 |
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We can probably have a lot of fun with a laser even if it doesn't end up being the most effective option.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 19:09 |
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Why are we even discussing this? BFLM's LASER, of course, there's no other choice!
Brovine fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Mar 24, 2020 |
# ? Mar 24, 2020 19:28 |
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Davin Valkri posted:For me, the deciding factor is not so much the weapon system as it is the detection system. Being able to see something incoming 150 nm out, even if your primary ground response is good for 3 nm, is better than seeing something incoming 60 nm out, even if you can engage it at 27 nm, because of how the OODA loop simulation works. This is where I'm coming from. We're buying a nice radar that happens to come with a laser.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 19:35 |
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BFLM Good radar, free laser, unlikely to warcrimes a civilian plane !
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 19:37 |
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GIMME MY LASER DAMMIT
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 20:05 |
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Davin Valkri posted:For me, the deciding factor is not so much the weapon system as it is the detection system. Being able to see something incoming 150 nm out, even if your primary ground response is good for 3 nm, is better than seeing something incoming 60 nm out, even if you can engage it at 27 nm, because of how the OODA loop simulation works. wiegieman posted:This is where I'm coming from. We're buying a nice radar that happens to come with a laser. Yeah, the TPS-80 isn't just a good radar. It's a state of the art radar. Late 2010 AESA, with all the jamming resistance that entails. 150nm range. It's a total game changer. It's got such a large range that we can do full on ground controlled intercept, where it's a ground based awacs and wreck people who come into our radar bubble, when we get some SAMs and link it up with the gator it's gonna be a hell of a nasty IADS network Not sure if CMO models the counterbattery functions that this thing has, would very much be interested since it would mean we can counter battery indirect fire hostiles in our radar bubble.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 20:21 |
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Between the 2020-era drones and the state-of-the-art radar, our support group is shaping up to be quite nice indeed.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 20:51 |
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 22:39 |
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BFLM Laser laser laser
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 22:44 |
koolkevz666 posted:BFLM Laser LASER L A S E R
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 22:53 |
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sincx fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Mar 23, 2021 |
# ? Mar 24, 2020 22:58 |
BFLM can't wait to deliver us the prototype as soon as they complete the ITAR paperwork. Nothing a few Arby's gift cards can't expedite. Africa is big. Really big. Angola was big and we spent months there. Without a fleet of tankers or widespread basing we're going to be a regional power. Corporate wants us to ease into this. They're a bit afraid we'll scratch the paint on these new planes. So we've got three options. Nigeria is an ORMEC member nation and also one of the least stable. The coup was messy, they give us a front of unity but three cliques of generals are running the show. None of them like the others. (Label #3). Cameroon is attempting a "hostile corporate buyout" of border assets. The physical border remains the same, it's just Cameroon owns the mines. (Label #2). Finally is the northern border, Niger. Which is another way to spell crushing poverty. In the grand scheme of things they have a country and virtually no resources so they are angling to seize the Manganese and Chromite sites. (Label #1) Botswana is a proxy war. South Africa (#3), a notable holdout of ORMEC is claiming Botswana as part of their sphere of influence. Angola and Zimbabwe (#1, #2), one an ORMEC members, the other trying to be, are totally respecting the South African claim publicly but privately are attempting to seize assets. Even more Angola is trying to seize assets before Zimbabwe can get them leading the "future ORMEC partners" to hire mercs to do all the dirty work for them. This is potentially the most profitable job as it plays off multiple very rich clients and keeps us firmly in the middle of the game. The Channel of Mozambique is a major thoroughfare of minerals to the east. India. China. Japan. Korea. Every single bit of refined rare earths that comes from the western members passes through that channel. France (#1)has been a rare democratic holdout throughout all of the craziness these past years and is attempting to maintain neutrality of the channel through a UN charter. Madagascar (#3) has claimed the Comores Islands as a Madagascarian Territory and is preparing to send a peacekeeping force to keep the smelly baguette eaters out. Finally is Mozambique (#2), they want to foster a fresh atmosphere of pirating and extortion rather like Somalia 20 years prior. Except they are doing it "legally" and divying out salvage rights before the ships are sunk. Of particular interest in this theater is a lost HG asset, or so we once thought... The HMS Liquid Asset is still alive. If this asset comes into play it is 100% totally deniable and unsupported. We'll just give it some "direction". First pick where, then we'll see some missions and decide for who.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:07 |
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Botswana is mostly desert or arid. I'm not mad keen on the ability to do cool things there through mission planning. Most of the mines being fought over are going to be concentrated. Nigeria is Angola-sized, has a very large population, and is going to be a massive campaign like Angola. The straits are more Bering style. I don't think our assets are really set up for this though, anti-ship capability is medium, and covering air ops is also going to be a big deal here. I'm for Nigeria. I think our forces will be better in this kind of situation, and the terrain and potential objectives are interesting.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:19 |
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Nigeria
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:41 |
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My heart says Comores, because Boat. Unfortunately I don't think we've got the naval strike assets to pull it off; maybe if we still had the Atlantique, alas. My wallet says Botswana, because it's centrally located and we can merc it right up for a lot of wealthy people. But look at that resource-map of Nigeria yooper fished up! It's got towns, it's got rivers, it's got all the mines. That's going to be a fantastic playground with absolutely all sorts of poo poo on the map. Even if you just plunk down a building or three (ex. Mine, Warehouse, Offices) for each resourcing site on the map that's still a crazy busy map with so much stuff to accidentally bomb, so many targets of opportunity or potential complications, so many opportunities for our shiny recon assets to, well, shine. Plus, with our airfield near the river delta in the south (near Ebony?) our cutting-edge radar would have excellent coverage on at least one of the major conflict areas. This is it folks. Nigeria! Radio Free Kobold fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Mar 25, 2020 |
# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:43 |
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Agreeing with Nigeria
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:56 |
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I'm thinking Nigerians...Yes. Nigerians will do nicely. (VOTE COUNTS FOR NIGERIA) (Also, this is a quote of the first episode of Leverage, in case you were wondering)
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:58 |
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Madagascar! Reunite with our long-lost Hired Goons! Help France! No downsides!
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 01:03 |
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Whenever I'm in doubt, I ask myself "What would Horatio Nelson do?" Horatio Nelson would definitely not help France
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 02:17 |
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This is the phase of the game where we're building workers and getting our economy going, and getting our feet wet with some light skirmishes. Going into Nigeria all big-dick-energy isn't going to make us money to afford more shiny lasers once we prove the worth of this one and get BLFM to offer us a discount contract on future purchases, and our current assets aren't built for naval operations. Botswana Maybe the Chinese will move into the channel in the meantime? Then we get to dick over the Chinese again!
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 02:20 |
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I know it's already been chosen but I wanted to post the gif dammit I also choose Comores because Bote and quote:Finally is Mozambique (#2), they want to foster a fresh atmosphere of pirating and extortion rather like Somalia 20 years prior. Except they are doing it "legally" and divying out salvage rights before the ships are sunk. Let's be Neophyte fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Mar 25, 2020 |
# ? Mar 25, 2020 02:53 |
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I gotta vote Madagascar as the true home of piracy and general rogueishness.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 03:06 |
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Botswana
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 03:11 |
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Comores for bote action.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 03:47 |
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Comores Because letting the botes not do anything is just a waste of assets
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 03:50 |
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I, for one, am not surprised we're seeing Biafra II: Electric Boogaloo. Nigeria. Botswana and the Comoros could put us into a pissing match with someone who has a serious air force ... and we're really a ground strike force at this point. (Yooper, I really liked all the procurement options and hard choices we had to make this time around. Next go-around, could we learn the theater first, and then get our buying options?)
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 04:13 |
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sincx fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Mar 23, 2021 |
# ? Mar 25, 2020 05:10 |
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Nigeria.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 05:22 |
BOAT!
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 07:18 |
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I'm thinking Madagascar since it's topical. Also botes.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 08:10 |
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Going for the naval campaign is cute, but we bought planes for a ground war.
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 08:11 |