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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

God I hope this doesn't become an own the libs thing.

Austin just ordered a shutdown through April 13th but Trump's two weeks winds up on the 1st. We have one of the most powerful people in Texas government already saying we need to get back to work, I guess we'll see what Abbott says at his next presser but he's spineless and terrified of getting primaried by Dan. The state is the number one employer in the city by far so if Abbott reopens state government by rescinding work-from-home provisions people will have to choose between defying a public health order from the city or risking losing their jobs while also exposing themselves to the virus and making the problem way worse. I don't even know if the state can "order" or otherwise compel defiance of a lawful public health ordinance under current law. Liberty University is opening back up to own the libs, can Abbott compel the same for UT-Austin?

https://twitter.com/SpeakerStraus/status/1242480652022407168

Well now we're screwed

zoux fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Mar 24, 2020

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


Actually, history will say you were too late, and could have prevented tens of thousands of deaths had you acted sooner.

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


zoux posted:

We have one of the most powerful people in Texas government already saying we need to get back to work, I guess we'll see what Abbott says at his next presser but he's spineless and terrified of getting primaried by Dan.

Serious question: is Abbott not at least a little bit smarter than Lt. Dan? Going on the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour to say "Grandma must die so the Dow Jones can live" may play great with the Fox News Viewer-in-Chief, but I'm not so sure that it plays that well with the normals!

The ghastliness of Dan's take isn't what surprises me, it's the profound stupidity and short-sightedness. I'm well aware that a bunch of the GOP would happily trade a couple million lives for some extra points on the Dow, if such a bargain could be made, but I had hoped that they'd be smart enough to realize that such a bargain isn't even possible! Productivity is not going to bounce back once the illness tears through your office and puts 10 to 20% of your coworkers in the highschool gym that's been converted into your local field hospital! The economy is not going to get better if we're burying hundreds of thousands of our friends and family members a month after you reopen everything!

Friend
Aug 3, 2008


Started a new job a couple weeks ago and I just discovered my work computer has an internet filter because this website was blocked for "Adult and Pornography."

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
Denton county just announced shelter in place at midnight. Better late than never I guess.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Is Whataburger an essential business? Walmart? Don Tacos Pollos Asados taco truck?

I need clarity here.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Friend posted:

Started a new job a couple weeks ago and I just discovered my work computer has an internet filter because this website was blocked for "Adult and Pornography."

Probably defaults to that for any unknown website, at least that is what my old work filter did.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

ReindeerF posted:

Is Whataburger an essential business? Walmart? Don Tacos Pollos Asados taco truck?

I need clarity here.

Yes to all three.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

ReindeerF posted:

Is Whataburger an essential business? Walmart? Don Tacos Pollos Asados taco truck?

I need clarity here.

Everything that's allowed to stay open, at least in Travis County

quote:

Restaurants and other facilities that prepare and serve food as long as customers can only order delivery and takeout

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://mobile.twitter.com/XXL/status/1242511272526127106

Immediately applying five percent tint in solidarity

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
If this goes on long enough, we are definitely going to end up with bemulletted dude named Lonnie standing before the Supreme Court with an argument that firework stands are essential businesses on account of are country.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Are we calling liquor stores essential here? Because like Spec's does also sell some foods. I'm down to a half bottle of Chartreuse and I'm calling it medicinal for the purposes of this whole pandemic business.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


ReidRansom posted:

Are we calling liquor stores essential here? Because like Spec's does also sell some foods. I'm down to a half bottle of Chartreuse and I'm calling it medicinal for the purposes of this whole pandemic business.

In Austin at least liquor stores are exempt from the shutdown order.

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FBS posted:

Collin County joining the Shelter In Place club :toot:

Except they’re not. Ughhh. Basically the county commissioner said “shelter in place, unless you’re a business that doesn’t want to, or unless you’re a person that doesn’t want to”

Someone asked him at the press conference about doing something non-essential like shopping for clothes and he made some glib joke about the spring fashions.

Killer-of-Lawyers
Apr 22, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
Whoof, Baytown, condolences man. At least your commute is over the Fred Hartman and not the I-10 barge magnet.

I guess now that Dallas has got a stay at home order Ft. Worth does too. Its been a bit too busy to be honest, I haven't seen the gas stations empty out like I've heard stories of from my parents out on the gulf coast. One dude at the Quick Trip has been coughing all last week too.

I really hope we don't start seeing yo yo orders though, Im worried that the siren call of the market will push the state to lean on the cities to open up in a week.

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


Killer-of-Lawyers posted:

I really hope we don't start seeing yo yo orders though, Im worried that the siren call of the market will push the state to lean on the cities to open up in a week.

Certain free-market death cultists absolutely going to ramp up calls to reopen the cities over the next couple of weeks, but by the time the current orders expire we'll also have pictures of bodybags piling up in NYC and nurses using paper towels and bandanas as facemasks in Seattle, so maybe public sentiment will be a little less focused on the DJIA by then.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Liquor stores need to be exempt because otherwise we get a ton of alcoholics clogging up ERs with the DTs

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1242543331537825792

I was real worried he was going to join in on the Trump Patrick suicide pact but seems not.

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler
If you read the orders, every job can be deemed essential purely because they exist to make society function.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

ReidRansom posted:

Are we calling liquor stores essential here? Because like Spec's does also sell some foods. I'm down to a half bottle of Chartreuse and I'm calling it medicinal for the purposes of this whole pandemic business.

in Brazos County liquor/beer/wine are essential services

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1242543331537825792

I was real worried he was going to join in on the Trump Patrick suicide pact but seems not.

This whole situation is just highlighting who trusts science and math and who doesn't and it is just depressing.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


GreyjoyBastard posted:

in Brazos County liquor/beer/wine are essential services

I I wonder if it's to prevent riots or to prevent alcoholics from going into DT's doing quarantine. I guess it could be both

Active Quasar
Feb 22, 2011

enraged_camel posted:

Actually, history will say you were too late, and could have prevented tens of thousands of deaths had you acted sooner.

From my perspective of seeing the UK utterly gently caress this up to the point where London is heading towards being at least another Italy, if not worse (the subway being packed to the levels of NYC every day), Harris is actually doing ok and is a couple of weeks ahead of the curve, relative to other western economies. Cancelling Rodeo alone has probably saved thousands of lives.

Don't get me wrong, it's always possible to do better but I'm incredibly glad to have got locked down in Houston rather than back in Europe.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

syntaxrigger posted:

This whole situation is just highlighting who trusts science and math and who doesn't and it is just depressing.

I don't actually think Dan Patrick wants to do this I think he wanted to be seen on the television saying something pleasing to Mr. Trump.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

Blotto_Otter posted:

Serious question: is Abbott not at least a little bit smarter than Lt. Dan? Going on the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour to say "Grandma must die so the Dow Jones can live" may play great with the Fox News Viewer-in-Chief, but I'm not so sure that it plays that well with the normals!

The ghastliness of Dan's take isn't what surprises me, it's the profound stupidity and short-sightedness. I'm well aware that a bunch of the GOP would happily trade a couple million lives for some extra points on the Dow, if such a bargain could be made, but I had hoped that they'd be smart enough to realize that such a bargain isn't even possible! Productivity is not going to bounce back once the illness tears through your office and puts 10 to 20% of your coworkers in the highschool gym that's been converted into your local field hospital! The economy is not going to get better if we're burying hundreds of thousands of our friends and family members a month after you reopen everything!

Abbott just held a press conference and was asked directly about Lt. Gov. Patrick's statements re: the economy and he pretty much said that he was listening to the advice of medical professionals and primarily concerned with the public health of the state. He also made comments on how he isn't seeing as much compliance as expected and is open to heightened enforcement or restrictions.

Honestly I kind of hate his guts, but I think he has a better outlook on this than other Southern politicians and isn't being a complete idiot.

Edit: and oh yeah that the best way to restart the economy was to get past COVID-19 and not have people die.

Nancy fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 24, 2020

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

zoux posted:

I don't actually think Dan Patrick wants to do this I think he wanted to be seen on the television saying something pleasing to Mr. Trump.

As a transplant to Texas from the swamps of Louisiana, I hope you are right. I am still trying to figure out lots of things about how Texas works.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
The entire modern American pharmacy industry has its roots in ensuring that alcohol was provided as an essential service during prohibition, soI'm fairly certain those of us who enjoy a few beers will be fine. We may just need to start wearing a Jew beanie or eating fish on Fridays.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

syntaxrigger posted:

As a transplant to Texas from the swamps of Louisiana, I hope you are right. I am still trying to figure out lots of things about how Texas works.

Dan Patrick says a lot of crazy ideas on Fox News because he likes to see his face on TV. None of them have happened.

Twibbit
Mar 7, 2013

Is your refrigerator running?
Target for us our essential worker letters just in time for New Braunfels to declare we are going to have a stay at home order, in two days

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

enraged_camel posted:

Actually, history will say you were too late, and could have prevented tens of thousands of deaths had you acted sooner.

people are still whining she did this too early since there are so few cases in town

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

ReidRansom posted:

Are we calling liquor stores essential here? Because like Spec's does also sell some foods. I'm down to a half bottle of Chartreuse and I'm calling it medicinal for the purposes of this whole pandemic business.

for the time being a ton of places are exempt

if the numbers keep going up, that list will get smaller and smaller

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

syntaxrigger posted:

As a transplant to Texas from the swamps of Louisiana, I hope you are right. I am still trying to figure out lots of things about how Texas works.

It will save you a lot of headache to learn that the answer here is that for the most part, it doesn't - it just fakes it real well.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

i say swears online posted:

was in a chat tonight with non-texan english speakers from around the world. i used the phrase "do what now?" to sound incredulous over something and was called out for sounding like foghorn leghorn or hank hill

i never knew that was a southern phrase lol
lmao

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
oh poo poo slim thug noooo

the boss of all bosses had met a bigger boss

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

oh poo poo slim thug noooo

the boss of all bosses had met a bigger boss

and yet Mattress Mack's gristly rear end remains healthy, where's the justice

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/evanasmith/status/1242565929701122052

Great framing there Evan, "Speaker Strauss claps back on Dan's idea to kill hundreds of thousands of old people." This isn't a politicians-at-it-again thing, Patrick advocated targeted population culls which is ah, literal Nazi poo poo - Joe Strauss is Jewish so when he hears stuff like that it probably makes him more nervous than your average Texan.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Lemniscate Blue posted:

It will save you a lot of headache to learn that the answer here is that for the most part, it doesn't - it just fakes it real well.
Don't break ranks.

Texas cannot fail us. We can fail Texas.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ReindeerF posted:

Is Whataburger an essential business? Walmart? Don Tacos Pollos Asados taco truck?

I need clarity here.

Whataburger yes, the rest are iffy.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Whoever said above that pretty much anything can be shoehorned in as an essential business was not joking:

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/what-is-an-essential-business-in-austin-travis-county/

I'm surprised fortune tellers and pet grooming joints aren't listed.

Also, I haven't bothered to Google, but I wondered how this might affect Uber/Lyft/etc for ridesharing.

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radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ReindeerF posted:

Whoever said above that pretty much anything can be shoehorned in as an essential business was not joking:

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/what-is-an-essential-business-in-austin-travis-county/

I'm surprised fortune tellers and pet grooming joints aren't listed.

Also, I haven't bothered to Google, but I wondered how this might affect Uber/Lyft/etc for ridesharing.

Lol, but not funny, where are people gonna go?

The economy really is hosed for the foreseeable future.

I got enough groceries, now if I can just figure out how to get enough money in the bank.

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