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BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

To be honest I don't think news articles use 'objectively healthy' like.... Ever. I think you're overthinking it.

Edit: page 69 hell yeah

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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

It's also really misleading yourself to think it'll only kill the people the flu would kill. Yes, the same part of the population most vulnerable to the flu is also most vulnerable to this. However, this will kill 10-100 times more people in that group than the average flu...

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Alan Smithee posted:

"there are no deaths by covid 19 in russia, instead they died during military operations vaction in the Ukraine"

Fixed that for you.

Fat Jesus
Jul 13, 2011

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2023


Virus defeated!

quote:

The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission said its data was "objective and true". "The number of newly diagnosed cases of novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan is zero," it said.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/beijing-prepares-for-300-000-workers-to-return-from-virus-centre-20200324-p54ddx.html

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
My wife was saying that Pharmacies in China (at least her part of the country) are really pushing antibiotics right now. They're being touted as a way of preventing Covid 19 from taking a hold of you.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Have they stopped testing?

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

Maybe everyone in Wuhan already got it and they buried the 1 million people who died? :D

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

McSpanky posted:

Good, good, it's starting already. "You brought this on yourselves."

What part of "unreported health problems" implies "you brought it on yourselves", idiot? Serious undiagnosed conditions are a thing.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Buried next to the high-speed train that derailed

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
Gordon Ramsay visits the wet market

https://youtu.be/04dG66tE_wc

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

God drat it. As poo poo as the data the CCP put out is that early data before it put it foot down when it came to symptoms, relative%, treatment was good. Papers were put out back in Jan 22nd in lancet about this. The absolute numbers were poo poo as expected. 2 month+ later we still have doctors of all people go bad flu. Grrr.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Blistex posted:

My wife was saying that Pharmacies in China (at least her part of the country) are really pushing antibiotics right now. They're being touted as a way of preventing anything and everything Covid 19from taking a hold of you.

Edited the redundant parts of your post - what makes right now so different from the last 100 years? :eng101:

Personal anecdote - I fractured a rib playing basketball when I lived over there - the "doctor" gave me antibiotics and some TCM that I don't even want to think about what was in it.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

The Fear posted:

Gordon Ramsay visits the wet market

https://youtu.be/04dG66tE_wc

:chanpop:

That is amazing, pro-click. The dubbed-over restaurant people killed me.

The junk collector
Aug 10, 2005
Hey do you want that motherboard?

oohhboy posted:

God drat it. As poo poo as the data the CCP put out is that early data before it put it foot down when it came to symptoms, relative%, treatment was good. Papers were put out back in Jan 22nd in lancet about this. The absolute numbers were poo poo as expected. 2 month+ later we still have doctors of all people go bad flu. Grrr.

The Flu kills a shitload of people every year despite the existence of quality vaccines. A Flu was possibly one of the worst pandemics to ever hit the human race killing untold numbers of people. Hell, Stephen King uses the Flu as a boogy man in his end of the world book. A Bad Flu should scare the poo poo out of people.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
page 69 much luck 69 hours rhino power maxlibido followed by liver failure

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

The White Dragon posted:

page 69 much luck 69 hours rhino power maxlibido followed by liver failure

covid-69

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Only good thing about China's antibiotics deal is I was able to just walk into a pharmacy and buy some when I had a sinus infection I'd had often enough that I knew how to treat without going to the hell that is a Chinese hospital.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

sticksy posted:

Edited the redundant parts of your post - what makes right now so different from the last 100 years? :eng101:

Personal anecdote - I fractured a rib playing basketball when I lived over there - the "doctor" gave me antibiotics and some TCM that I don't even want to think about what was in it.

Yeah. I did a few effort posts about antibiotic use in China, but now they're actively pushing it as a Covid 19 preventative measure. Before it was just a random pill they threw in the trail mix bag of pills they gave everyone for everything. What's different now is that they're telling people that antibiotics (by name) are the solution.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I just don't understand why. China has actual doctors, they understand what antibiotics are for. I get random people having no clue but why would medical professionals push people to take potentially harmful medicines that you can be 1000% sure will not help with the disease? I don't think they even profit off it the way US pharma companies do, though that seems like the most obvious explanation.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Grand Fromage posted:

I just don't understand why. China has actual doctors, they understand what antibiotics are for. I get random people having no clue but why would medical professionals push people to take potentially harmful medicines that you can be 1000% sure will not help with the disease? I don't think they even profit off it the way US pharma companies do, though that seems like the most obvious explanation.

tbf the US has some dumb as dogshit doctors too

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Didn't the homeopathic frenzy start in the states?

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

WarpedNaba posted:

Didn't the homeopathic frenzy start in the states?

Those aren’t doctors, though. Just people like my dumbass cousin.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Covid-19? Why you no get Covid-A?

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

WarpedNaba posted:

Didn't the homeopathic frenzy start in the states?

Please show respect for 6000 years of traditional medicine

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


WarpedNaba posted:

Didn't the homeopathic frenzy start in the states?

No. It started in Germany and was always more popular in Europe than it ever got in the US.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Never thought of Germany as the centre of new-age quackery.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

WarpedNaba posted:

Never thought of Germany as the centre of new-age quackery.

new age quackery is white guilt manifest

why do you think we can't get enough native american spirituality after genociding them

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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In a few days the Covid-19 case count in the US is going to pass China's (according to Chinese data lol) so get ready for a whole lot of smug propaganda and useful idiots going "look at how well China did!"

BCR
Jan 23, 2011



Its also a little funny seeing all these 'come teach in China' from EF, shenme shenme school, guangzhou etc. I imagine all the foreigner wranglers will be having a hard time what with the new foreigner regs and being the starting point of a global pandemic and under lockdown.

BCR fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Mar 25, 2020

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

Grand Fromage posted:

No. It started in Germany and was always more popular in Europe than it ever got in the US.

What we call homeopathy in the US isn't really homeopathy as it is in Europe though, it really is more comparable to TCM.

No society is immune from quackery.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Fojar38 posted:

In a few days the Covid-19 case count in the US is going to pass China's (according to Chinese data lol) so get ready for a whole lot of smug propaganda and useful idiots going "look at how well China did!"

trump could learn a few things from china about lowering the case count by deliberately not testing people

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

WarpedNaba posted:

Never thought of Germany as the centre of new-age quackery.

Homeopathy was invented in the early 1700s and was arguably more scientific than the standard four humors bullshit that doctors believed in at the time.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Kill All Cops posted:

trump could learn a few things from china about lowering the case count by deliberately not testing people

California's waaaaay ahead of Trump.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Grand Fromage posted:

I just don't understand why. China has actual doctors, they understand what antibiotics are for. I get random people having no clue but why would medical professionals push people to take potentially harmful medicines that you can be 1000% sure will not help with the disease? I don't think they even profit off it the way US pharma companies do, though that seems like the most obvious explanation.

From what her father is saying, it's pretty much limited to Pharmacies. . . so not a doctor in sight. Just guys who spend 300 RMB to get their Pharma cert. I think the real selling point is that they want people to come into their stores to get the antibiotics, then they upsell them with a ton of TCM which is the stuff that has a real profit margin, as antibiotics are cheaper than dirt in China.


Alan Smithee posted:

new age quackery is white guilt manifest

why do you think we can't get enough native american spirituality after genociding them

This is especially true of Germany. They can't get enough FN artwork. All of the local First Nations artists back home (Manitoulin Island has a ton) pretty much have assembly lines where they paint the same painting (like 5 copies at once) and just box them up and ship them to their distributor in Germany.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Kill All Cops posted:

trump could learn a few things from china about lowering the case count by deliberately not testing people

china's bad at this they tested too many people already. Japan or Russia are better to learn from.

Giant Metal Robot
Jun 14, 2005


Taco Defender

WarpedNaba posted:

Never thought of Germany as the centre of new-age quackery.

Germans had all kinds of health movements based around the idea that nature is good. Some are broadly known nowadays. Some you can still pay thousands to experience in an exclusive Alpine resort.

Nudism - good for health
Dry brushing - good for health
Herbal cough drops - good for health
Getting wrapped in towels and buried in hot sand - good for health

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Kraftwerk is the only one I care about

and they had a song about how good it is to drive on the fast highway

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!

Giant Metal Robot posted:

Germans had all kinds of health movements based around the idea that nature is good. Some are broadly known nowadays. Some you can still pay thousands to experience in an exclusive Alpine resort.

Nudism - good for health
Dry brushing - good for health
Herbal cough drops - good for health
Getting wrapped in towels and buried in hot sand - good for health

but where do they stand on cold water vs hot water to drink

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

snergle posted:

but where do they stand on cold water vs hot water to drink

no water. just beer. room temp.

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

BCR posted:



Its also a little funny seeing all these 'come teach in China' from EF, shenme shenme school, guangzhou etc. I imagine all the foreigner wranglers will be having a hard time what with the new foreigner regs and being the starting point of a global pandemic and under lockdown.

As an ESL teacher who will soon be quitting his current job and looking for jobs in the Aug/Sept semester, this is exactly what I am hoping for.

A bunch of white English speaking people will be scared, so won't apply, and thus the employers will be less discerning and hire a useless wastrel like me.

P.S. I am NOT applying to go to China. I did my 2 1/2 years there, and that was more than enough.

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