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Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

HardDiskD posted:

:psyduck: Why couldn't this be a fixed thing? I guess other than to add a cool mil or so to the manufacture price I guess.

It needed to be up for speed, down to see the ground for landing.

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Lake of Methane
Oct 29, 2011

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

I got laid off from Central Transport the day after the 82-year old billionaire owner went to prison for ignoring a court order and not fixing the roads leading to the Ambassador Bridge (which he owned) in Dearborn MI.

He bought property / actively blocked competing crossings in the area which resulted in the roads around the bridge getting shredded by the truck traffic.

Fun bonus: When I and the other managers who were laid off applied for unemployment we discovered that a Canadian sister company that the guy owned was cutting duplicate paychecks in our names.

The Omnibus Project did an episode about the bridge and attendant fuckery, if you're interested.

https://www.omnibusproject.com/208

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

HardDiskD posted:

:psyduck: Why couldn't this be a fixed thing? I guess other than to add a cool mil or so to the manufacture price I guess.

It could have stayed up the entire time, but some country had a law that required a certain amount of visibility on the ground.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
If it was up the entire time you literally wouldn't be able to see the runway when landing.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Makes sense, thanks.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuedQFH8wZI

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
The U2 does not have a drop nose and as a result the pilot can't see the runway at all when landing. Fortunately its airspeed is so low at that point that a second pilot goes out in a chase car and follows you down the runway guiding you in.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

haveblue posted:

The U2 does not have a drop nose and as a result the pilot can't see the runway at all when landing. Fortunately its airspeed is so low at that point that a second pilot goes out in a chase car and follows you down the runway guiding you in.

The entire U2 wikipedia page is worth a read. That poo poo is OSHA top to bottom. I can also recommend the Gary Powers book about the incident he was involved in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2

Messadiah
Jan 12, 2001

Cojawfee posted:

Is it supposed to do that?

It's not very typical

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



HardDiskD posted:

:psyduck: Why couldn't this be a fixed thing? I guess other than to add a cool mil or so to the manufacture price I guess.
it's actually the most OSHA compliant thing they could have done

hit the books kid, read up on our history

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



U-2, sr-71 related, I saw a story about one of the big aeronautics is now in testing phase of a super sonic non-booming aircraft?

j.peeba
Oct 25, 2010

Almost Human
Nap Ghost

Salt Fish posted:

The entire U2 wikipedia page is worth a read. That poo poo is OSHA top to bottom. I can also recommend the Gary Powers book about the incident he was involved in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2

quote:

In 2012, modifications were initiated under the Cockpit Altitude Reduction Effort (CARE), increasing the cabin pressure from 3.88 psi to 7.65 psi, a 15,000-foot (4,600 m) altitude equivalent. The urine collection device also was rebuilt to eliminate leakage.[39][44]
:piss:

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


haveblue posted:

The U2 does not have a drop nose and as a result the pilot can't see the runway at all when landing. Fortunately its airspeed is so low at that point that a second pilot goes out in a chase car and follows you down the runway guiding you in.

The glide ratio is also so high the only way to get the drat thing to land is to sit half a meter above the ground then intentionally stall the plane. Any higher and the bicycle wheel configuration collapses.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
God, planes are fuckin stupid looking.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!

wesleywillis posted:

God, planes are fuckin stupid looking.

If they looked normal, no one would believe they could fly.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

wesleywillis posted:

God, planes are fuckin stupid looking.
Look up autogyros.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

Cojawfee posted:

Is it supposed to do that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM


haveblue posted:

The U2 does not have a drop nose and as a result the pilot can't see the runway at all when landing. Fortunately its airspeed is so low at that point that a second pilot goes out in a chase car and follows you down the runway guiding you in.

A lot of planes have had that problem. The Bf109 had a long nose and a tail-dragger undercarriage landing it involved pushing the canopy back, standing on the seat and undertaiking the most dangerous flight maneuver while half-outside the cockpit. Taxiing was genreally done as a series of S-bends so that you coudl see where you were going out the side of the aircraft.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Speaking of planes, Steve Matchett of F1 commentating fame has a book called The Chariot Makers that is probably super in the wheelhouse of most OSHA thread posters. It’s about F1 engineering, but it’s wrapped in a story about a bunch of dudes about to fly on a Concorde because their original flight got delayed, so they end up shooting the poo poo and talking about both race cars and supersonic flight.

I mean...let’s face it, you probably need a book to read right about now.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/622htKg.mp4

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


We need to go deeper...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se59b1ovDcc

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

Speaking of planes, Steve Matchett of F1 commentating fame has a book called The Chariot Makers that is probably super in the wheelhouse of most OSHA thread posters. It’s about F1 engineering, but it’s wrapped in a story about a bunch of dudes about to fly on a Concorde because their original flight got delayed, so they end up shooting the poo poo and talking about both race cars and supersonic flight.

Cool, thanks for this. I miss hearing Matchett and Hobbs on F1 coverage :smith:

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



I took advantage of the quarantine and got my OSHA 30 certification online. Some of the case studies were pretty awful, but no terrible pictures or anything.
I'm a PM so not in the field or anything, but it actually helps a lot when going after certain work to have office staff with OSHA 30 training.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

AFewBricksShy posted:

I took advantage of the quarantine and got my OSHA 30 certification online. Some of the case studies were pretty awful, but no terrible pictures or anything.
I'm a PM so not in the field or anything, but it actually helps a lot when going after certain work to have office staff with OSHA 30 training.

Which one did you use? I did mine through Advance Online and it was brutally boring to actually get through but it did the job well enough.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Helen Highwater posted:

A lot of planes have had that problem. The Bf109 had a long nose and a tail-dragger undercarriage landing it involved pushing the canopy back, standing on the seat and undertaiking the most dangerous flight maneuver while half-outside the cockpit. Taxiing was genreally done as a series of S-bends so that you coudl see where you were going out the side of the aircraft.

Do you have any evidence of this? That doesn't make any sense. Nearly every fighter then had a long nose and was a tail dragger. I've never heard of any other plane requiring standing on the seat to land. Especially because landing would require yaw control and standing on the seat would mean the pilot couldn't operate the rudder pedals, nor could they operate the brakes. I did some cursory research, and it seems like a lot of planes were lost due to the configuration of the front landing gear being angled or something.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Cojawfee posted:

Do you have any evidence of this? That doesn't make any sense. Nearly every fighter then had a long nose and was a tail dragger. I've never heard of any other plane requiring standing on the seat to land. Especially because landing would require yaw control and standing on the seat would mean the pilot couldn't operate the rudder pedals, nor could they operate the brakes. I did some cursory research, and it seems like a lot of planes were lost due to the configuration of the front landing gear being angled or something.

It is absolutely not true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcmShZDx6z4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVsruQyCc8A

While the nose is long, it's not appreciably longer than any of the other standard fighters of the era. Standing on the seat would also make it impossible to use the rudder and really any controls except the flight stick, which would guarantee a crash. Taking off and landing is done just like in all other planes of the time: careful monitoring of your speed and altitude and feeling when you've left the ground or made contact.

Edit: This definitely wins for the most bizarre claim I've seen about planes.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 24, 2020

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

:nws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ol06FmDBA :nws:

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 24, 2020

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS




“Please Don’t Kiss Me!” – Moms asking people not to kiss their babies to avoid catching the flu in the 1930s.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Oh, don't mind me, I'm just picking up random babies for a smooch.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

SelenicMartian posted:

Look up autogyros.

I've seen them before.
I remember Mr Burns tried to send a letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam, via the 4:30 auto-gyro.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

McGavin posted:

Oh, don't mind me, I'm just picking up random babies for a smooch.

Have you met old people?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


ekuNNN posted:


“Please Don’t Kiss Me!” – Moms asking people not to kiss their babies to avoid catching the flu in the 1930s.

I love how Stephen Fry there is smokin a dart all concerned about her baby's health

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



My niece works at the Mutter Museam (The Museum of the College of Physicians in Philadelphia) and spent most of the last year organizing their exhibit for the 1918 Flu Pandemic.

There are a lot of parallels.

http://muttermuseum.org/exhibitions/going-viral-behind-the-scenes-at-a-medical-museum/

They're closed for the duration.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

KoRMaK posted:

U-2, sr-71 related, I saw a story about one of the big aeronautics is now in testing phase of a super sonic non-booming aircraft?

NASA is doing the testing with the X-59.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

wesleywillis posted:

I've seen them before.
I remember Mr Burns tried to send a letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam, via the 4:30 auto-gyro.

I saw one for real down below as I was flying around Salinas. Super weird to hear that call -- "Salinas tower, N1234Z autogyro experimental, turning left base 13"

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


Salt Fish posted:

The entire U2 wikipedia page is worth a read. That poo poo is OSHA top to bottom. I can also recommend the Gary Powers book about the incident he was involved in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2

The aircraft cruises in a flight regime known as the "coffin corner"

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

PainterofCrap posted:

My niece works at the Mutter Museam (The Museum of the College of Physicians in Philadelphia) and spent most of the last year organizing their exhibit for the 1918 Flu Pandemic.

There are a lot of parallels.

http://muttermuseum.org/exhibitions/going-viral-behind-the-scenes-at-a-medical-museum/

They're closed for the duration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH2Laha7llI

They published this video with Caitlin Doughty (Ask A Mortician) about the 1918 flu three months ago. Come for the chilling parallels, stay for the OSHA of dealing with way too many bodies at once.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

SeaborneClink posted:

I'm not sure you've ever interacted with Canada Post or the Royal Mail if you think this.

Do you think USPS is the company doing same-day Amazon Prime delivery? There are private courier companies in the UK and I’m sure Canada too.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Salt Fish posted:

The entire U2 wikipedia page is worth a read. That poo poo is OSHA top to bottom. I can also recommend the Gary Powers book about the incident he was involved in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2

Cellmate Zigurd was a cool bro

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

PainterofCrap posted:

My niece works at the Mutter Museam (The Museum of the College of Physicians in Philadelphia) and spent most of the last year organizing their exhibit for the 1918 Flu Pandemic.

There are a lot of parallels.

http://muttermuseum.org/exhibitions/going-viral-behind-the-scenes-at-a-medical-museum/

They're closed for the duration.

That reminds me of a piece of interactive fiction where you play as a doctor in Philadelphia during the yellow fever epidemic of 1793.

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