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The traders don't buy bitcoins anymore right? I sold a bunch on the flea market today, and I have to wonder, who's buying them? It doesn't seem like anything they trade for is a net positive.
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While looking at THICC item cases, I did discover something pretty strange. They are generally around 19-20mil, but there are some listed at odd numbers are 16mil. You can't buy those and you get an error. But what it's doing is making people list them for below those prices, to move them, and they get bought immediately. So someone has figured out how to list an item on the flea market for a cheap price, but you can't buy them due to an error. But people just wanting to sell theirs don't try and buy the item and just undercut, losing out in millions. I was wondering why the ones listed at 3mil less than the rest of them were about to run out of time. Makes sense now, since you can't buy them. The level of bugs in this game that result in money making opportunities are insane.
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Mar 24, 2020 17:17
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Bucnasti posted:The traders don't buy bitcoins anymore right? You can still sell them to Therapist. She pays like 150k. I imagine people are buying them to trade in for items they can't otherwise piece together. Lower level players without access to some mods might be buying them up to strip or modify to their liking. I did that a couple times when I was low level. Edit: It's a pretty crushing feeling going into a raid as a scav, finding that someone wasn't able to carry the weapon case from a marked room out and spending the entire raid looking for a backpack big enough to carry it and not finding it. Every scav I checked didn't even have a backpack on them. At most, I found another sling. ShowTime fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 24, 2020 |
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Mar 24, 2020 17:18
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What’s with all the hacking on reddit being showcased? I get hacking in PubG and stuff because there was a real world economy where you could make actual money. But that doesn’t exist in Tarkov so what’s the point?
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Mar 24, 2020 20:50
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willie_dee posted:What’s with all the hacking on reddit being showcased? Same reason people cheat in single player games: they just like the feelings of power that come with it. Seems like there is very little reward or feelings of accomplishment in cheating/hacking, but people still do it because to them, the power is the fun part.
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Mar 24, 2020 20:53
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Also there absolutely is a way of making money off the game, selling accounts or items
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Mar 24, 2020 20:56
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willie_dee posted:What’s with all the hacking on reddit being showcased? RMT is a thing with Tarkov. I'm just amazed that anybody can make a profit given how expensive all of the hacks seem to be.
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Mar 24, 2020 20:58
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willie_dee posted:What’s with all the hacking on reddit being showcased? people hack in games that have zero financial incentives whatsoever Tarkov is probably worse than most of those games in giving people incentive to cheat because of the degree to which new players typically get dunked on before they acquire adequate game-knowledge + the in-game loot progression and just because Tarkov doesn't have an *officially* supported real world economy doesn't mean people aren't actively selling in-game loot for real money - if you can sell 1m roubles for a bit over a dollar (the rate I saw after a brief search) then you can easily see how hacking on labs is a money making proposition for some people
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Mar 24, 2020 21:08
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Inspector_666 posted:RMT is a thing with Tarkov. I'm just amazed that anybody can make a profit given how expensive all of the hacks seem to be. cheat companies selling hacks to RMTs is a pyramid scheme
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Mar 24, 2020 21:37
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Zipperelli. posted:RIP. my condolances I know  Working on it.
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Mar 24, 2020 22:07
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ShowTime posted:You can still sell them to Therapist. She pays like 150k. I imagine people are buying them to trade in for items they can't otherwise piece together. Lower level players without access to some mods might be buying them up to strip or modify to their liking. I did that a couple times when I was low level. Well poo poo, I could have sworn last time I checked the Therapist wasn't buying them, but I just checked again and sure enough... 145k.
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Mar 24, 2020 22:27
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The cliff like learning curve in Tarkov means people need in game cash to continue to go into raids. It's the same dynamic that mobile games use to frustrate you into paying for Blue Diamonds or some poo poo, but RMT steps in instead of the devs.
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Mar 24, 2020 22:27
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Bucnasti posted:Well poo poo, I could have sworn last time I checked the Therapist wasn't buying them, but I just checked again and sure enough... 145k. ime the game only seems to check if a trader will buy items every so often/under certain circumstances, and I don’t think it always evaluates items in containers so depending on how you manage your inventory it’s possible to end up in situations where traders will temporarily not give a price for an item they’d normally buy (and will buy if you just leave said item in your main inventory and get the game to re-evaluate your salable items for that trader) but yeah bitcoins go to Therapist
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Mar 24, 2020 22:58
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Yeah, I remember a post on reddit from a Chinese player saying that there were a bunch of famous Chinese streamers playing Tarkov, and a bunch of clips and memes, so a lot of Chinese players ended up trying out Tarkov only to hit the learning cliff. It's especially bad because there aren't many Chinese resources for learning the game. So they get destroyed and turn to RMT... those who don't cheat, that is.
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Mar 24, 2020 23:00
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Lmao at spending money rather than reading a wiki every now and then
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Mar 24, 2020 23:32
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They are patching the game tomorrow and removing some of the exploits used to level skills. So if you want to do it, now is the time. They are also adding heavy breathing and hand shaking when you run out of stamina. Not having high stats is gonna suck even more.
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Mar 25, 2020 01:35
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hopefully they ban the str/end cheaters
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Mar 25, 2020 03:10
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This game is so ridiculously easy to make money in post .12 and there are so many amazing budget options, I can’t imagine why you would ever spend money on RMT. Like you don’t even need to be a turbo hoarder or market baron, just do your scav runs occasionally and level your hideout - scav case/bitcoin rig/workbench is insane output, especially when you run expeditionary fuel tanks and flip them into mag boxes.
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Mar 25, 2020 03:29
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hakimashou posted:hopefully they ban the str/end cheaters They're doing a half decent job banning actual cheaters (like some goons), the problem is there's a cyclical process of real world moneymaking going on. All it takes is to buy an EOD account, cheat to the point where you're a high level and done with all the quests, then cheat your way to all the high value items. Do this for a few days, sell the items in the account for real world money to some idiot who doesn't know any better. Rinse, and repeat. Until Nikita Daydrinker can find a way to prevent this, everyone is in for a very rough ride. Let's be honest, it's 95% Chinas fault for the real money market. Ban China. BANNED USER fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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Mar 25, 2020 03:57
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willie_dee posted:I get hacking in PubG and stuff because there was a real world economy where you could make actual money. But that doesn’t exist in Tarkov so what’s the point? Last time this was analyzed a few weeks ago someone in this thread linked that ~20k USD of Tarkov items were sold per day via ebay, but the real number is probably a lot higher since it doesn't include playerauctions or any of the other RMT sites which don't allow you to see sales numbers.
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Mar 25, 2020 04:21
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BANNED USER posted:They're doing a half decent job banning actual cheaters (like some goons), the problem is there's a cyclical process of real world moneymaking going on. All it takes is to buy an EOD account, cheat to the point where you're a high level and done with all the quests, then cheat your way to all the high value items. Do this for a few days, sell the items in the account for real world money to some idiot who doesn't know any better. Rinse, and repeat. Until Nikita Daydrinker can find a way to prevent this, everyone is in for a very rough ride. Let's be honest, it's 95% Chinas fault for the real money market. Ban China. banning china wouldnt help because most people from there arent cheating and the ones who are can also easily get around anything you try to do to keep people from china out. the only solution is to keep patching stuff as quick as you can.
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Mar 25, 2020 04:29
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hakimashou posted:hopefully they ban the str/end cheaters There's some rumor going around that they intend to reset not only the str/end of those who have cheated theirs, but that they will reset their entire accounts. I hope they do.
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Mar 25, 2020 06:41
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Stux posted:banning china wouldnt help because most people from there arent cheating Pretty sure you're the only person who holds this opinion.
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Mar 25, 2020 07:04
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My friends almost all stat cheated and it kinda killed my desire to continue playing the game
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Mar 25, 2020 07:15
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Because it exposed to you how poo poo the whole idea of long-term progression is?
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Mar 25, 2020 07:16
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Nah because cheating in a persistent multiplayer game is super cringy
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Mar 25, 2020 07:19
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please knock Mom! posted:Nah because cheating in a persistent multiplayer game is super cringy This. There's nothing wrong with a stat progression system, but cheating is loving garbage and they are garbage people for doing it.
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Mar 25, 2020 08:33
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If the stat progression system sucks that much for you that blows. But cheating is basically saying your time and gameplay experience is more important than others’. At that point just play offline stuff like the solipsist you are
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Mar 25, 2020 08:48
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https://twitter.com/WithJimbo/status/1242734308298637313 Don't know what this is from but it owns.
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Mar 25, 2020 09:48
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BANNED USER posted:Pretty sure you're the only person who holds this opinion. China is effectively banned from American servers due to the ping limit but the cheaters are just using vpns to connect anyway. That's why you see so many people lag skipping all over the place.
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Mar 25, 2020 10:06
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Great Beer posted:China is effectively banned from American servers due to the ping limit but the cheaters are just using vpns to connect anyway. That's why you see so many people lag skipping all over the place. They don’t use vpns to do it, since that couldn’t lower their ping. They hack the launcher to remove the ping limit in selecting servers. The us west coast is within the ping limit of many of them already though, since the limit is too high.
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Appears that the scav case no longer works and that items inside containers no longer count towards hideout recipes since the recent patch. Anybody else? e: https://twitter.com/bstategames/status/1242788128131342338 Jarf fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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Mar 25, 2020 13:15
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Jarf posted:Appears that the scav case no longer works and that items inside containers no longer count towards hideout recipes since the recent patch. BSG is far from perfect, but what baffles my mind is that if this had happened to FO76, it would have taken Bethesda two months to fix it.
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Mar 25, 2020 14:03
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hakimashou posted:They don’t use vpns to do it, since that couldn’t lower their ping. They hack the launcher to remove the ping limit in selecting servers. No, they absolutely use VPNs to do it. They use special ones that can fake ping anywhere in the world to look like 20.
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please knock Mom! posted:My friends almost all stat cheated and it kinda killed my desire to continue playing the game A friend of mine was bragging about STR/END exploit and running circles around me with endless stamina in raids. Well he messaged me this morning and his STR/END stats were reset to 0. Myself being a level 3 on STR never felt so good.
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Mar 25, 2020 16:26
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mysteryberto posted:A friend of mine was bragging about STR/END exploit and running circles around me with endless stamina in raids. Well he messaged me this morning and his STR/END stats were reset to 0. Myself being a level 3 on STR never felt so good. lol Tell your friend to go gently caress himself.
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Mar 25, 2020 16:45
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Stux posted:banning china wouldnt help because most people from there arent cheating and the ones who are can also easily get around anything you try to do to keep people from china out. the only solution is to keep patching stuff as quick as you can.  There are Chinese players on the subreddit agreeing that cheating is a huge problem there, mostly spawning from the whole "winning is everything" mentality that exists in China. Cheating or hacking in games is not looked down upon by the vast majority of players, so boom: you get an inordinate amount of cheaters from that area. What I'm saying is, you're dumb, and China needs to be region-locked somehow
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BANNED USER posted:Pretty sure you're the only person who holds this opinion. so what? doesnt mean im wrong. its the same level of logic as putting tons of anti-piracy ads at the start of a movie which are then removed for the pirated versions anyway. Zipperelli. posted:
they already are, its already people who can get around a region lock who are doing it and you cannot stop them by region locking. its literally trivial to bypass, its less effort than actually cheating. the only solution is continually patching exploits as they come out. region lock china is the same big brain level of stupid as region lock russia was in europe in the early 00s on cs. it is not technically possible to region lock the people actually cheating, it literally only effects people who explicitly are not cheating.
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hakimashou posted:They don’t use vpns to do it, since that couldn’t lower their ping. They hack the launcher to remove the ping limit in selecting servers. you have to have a decently high ping limit because the majority of people even inside a region have garbage connections, and this is especially true for US servers.
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Just had battleye completely max out my CPU and not launch the game. Had to restart my computer
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