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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan	6	1.60%
R. Burgon	80	21.33%
D. Butler	72	19.20%
A. Rayner	35	9.33%
I. Murray	5	1.33%
P. Flaps	177	47.20%
Total:	375 votes

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Comrade Fakename posted:

Apparently these 3.5m tests are going out to the public this week (!) and produce results in 10-15 minutes(!!!).

Where the gently caress have these magical tests popped out of nowhere from? I heard that it was a big deal that China were getting tests that only took 45 minutes!

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

to clarify the home tests situation as there seems to be deliberate misinformation on this front. there is not a current plan for the government to supply tests to every house in the next few days. as of this morning the government are accepting applications for the commercial sale of tests: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-for-coronavirus-covid-19-test-kits

so any claims of next week is about the earliest a commercial test is legally going to be on the market, which means nothing on its accuracy and there is no way they'll have the number of kits necessary to catch the initial demand (and i doubt these will be anything but antigen tests to find if you're currently infected)

the 3.5m test kits ordered by the government are headline news for when antibody tests become available which check if you've ever had the infection. that they've only pre-ordered 3.5m against the UK population of... more than 3.5m should tell you this isn't going to be an overnight issue. the current plan is to test key workers (healthcare) who are at home symptomatic or are living with people who are - this is to reduce the time they are away and capable of helping out other people. more info: https://www.gov.scot/news/covid-19-testing-to-get-key-workers-back-to-work/

e: also there's new info on production of hand sanitiser for an idea of how slow to react they currently are: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/producing-hand-sanitiser-and-gel-for-coronavirus-covid-19

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:50

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# ? May 24, 2024 20:52

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Comrade Fakename posted:

Apparently these 3.5m tests are going out to the public this week (!) and produce results in 10-15 minutes(!!!).

Where the gently caress have these magical tests popped out of nowhere from? I heard that it was a big deal that China were getting tests that only took 45 minutes!

Ireland invented them after the pubs closed.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:51

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

https://twitter.com/taintberner/status/1242117190754721792

Oopsies

Brings a tear to your eye.

https://twitter.com/Butsay_/status/1242545988524539904?s=19

yes it's fake

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:51

TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

Where are the Kray-twins when you need them?

https://twitter.com/AndrewCesare/status/1242174265547468803

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:53

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Comrade Fakename posted:

Apparently these 3.5m tests are going out to the public this week (!) and produce results in 10-15 minutes(!!!).

Where the gently caress have these magical tests popped out of nowhere from? I heard that it was a big deal that China were getting tests that only took 45 minutes!

https://twitter.com/miracleofsound/status/1239794473179197445?s=19

The Irish are on the case!

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:53

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Comrade Fakename posted:

Apparently these 3.5m tests are going out to the public this week (!) and produce results in 10-15 minutes(!!!).

Where the gently caress have these magical tests popped out of nowhere from? I heard that it was a big deal that China were getting tests that only took 45 minutes!

It's probably bullshit op, like that oxford study yesterday

It's really easy to want to believe good news

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:57

Oodles: Oct 31, 2005

Does anyone know if there are published figures for each county in England? A guy in the Scotland subreddit made a tracker for each region in Scotland, and wonder if there�s an England version.

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

# ? Mar 25, 2020 16:58

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

The Question IRL posted:

https://twitter.com/miracleofsound/status/1239794473179197445?s=19

The Irish are on the case!

lol

also the cemetery has been unsealed, so not sure quite what was going on there. the guys turning people away were saying it was closed for three weeks, but maybe there were complaints from people who wanted to visit graves

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:00

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Could be that the supposed Italian strain is a lot worse than the Chinese strain, but that doesn't fit the numbers either.

What happened with that, anyway? I'm sure I remember talk of there being two or three strains identified but at the time no data on whether any of them was better or worse than the other, then it all got lost in the noise (and the apparent very close correlation of infection and death rates internationallly).

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:19

EmptyVessel: Oct 30, 2012

Oodles posted:

Does anyone know if there are published figures for each county in England? A guy in the Scotland subreddit made a tracker for each region in Scotland, and wonder if there�s an England version.

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

Not as detailed as your link for Scotland but this https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14 gives numbers for Upper Tier Local Authorities (UTLA) and NHS Regions for England. Zoom in on the map for visualisation for each.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:21

Strom Cuzewon: Jul 1, 2010

Guardian is now reporting that the tests are coming (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days) so if its bullshit it's official bullshit.

The tests look like ELISAs, basically pregnancy tests with the "pregnant" bit swapped out. They're pretty easy to mass-produce, but I'm still impressed/sceptical at the sudden turn around from "no tests" to "3.5m"

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:22

Aipsh: Feb 17, 2006; GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

In these dark times remember that our National Hero Henry NEVER. GIVES. IN

https://twitter.com/kamackinnon/status/1242800530826694656?s=21

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:23

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
_{(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)}

Hello, dear

Aidan_702 posted:

In these dark times remember that our National Hero Henry NEVER. GIVES. IN

https://twitter.com/kamackinnon/status/1242800530826694656?s=21

That's the stuff of nightmares for cats and dogs :ohdear:

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:26

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

The Question IRL posted:

https://twitter.com/miracleofsound/status/1239794473179197445?s=19

The Irish are on the case!

So are these actual home tests in the way pregnancy tests are? You... cough? spit? emit some other fluid? on to a thing which then changes colour and says "DED/NOT DED"? Or is it something that still requires a lab to process/interpret?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:27

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Guardian is now reporting that the tests are coming (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days) so if its bullshit it's official bullshit.

The tests look like ELISAs, basically pregnancy tests with the "pregnant" bit swapped out. They're pretty easy to mass-produce, but I'm still impressed/sceptical at the sudden turn around from "no tests" to "3.5m"

Yeah, same. This seems way too good to be true

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:28

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

crispix posted:

That's the stuff of nightmares for cats and dogs

My dog loves the hoover and insists on being given a quick going over whenever I use it. I even have a special pet brush attachment for it (that went missing days after I got the cat, and I have suspicions about that)

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:29

Pablo Bluth: Sep 7, 2007; I've made a huge mistake.

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Guardian is now reporting that the tests are coming (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-mass-home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days) so if its bullshit it's official bullshit.

The tests look like ELISAs, basically pregnancy tests with the "pregnant" bit swapped out. They're pretty easy to mass-produce, but I'm still impressed/sceptical at the sudden turn around from "no tests" to "3.5m"

The press coverage does make them sound like it's testing for generic class of antibodies but I came across this which says it is covid-19 specific antibodies.
https://www.biopanda.co.uk/php/products/rapid/infectious_diseases/covid19.php

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:30

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

So are these actual home tests in the way pregnancy tests are? You... cough? spit? emit some other fluid? on to a thing which then changes colour and says "DED/NOT DED"? Or is it something that still requires a lab to process/interpret?

If they are enzyme assay tests like they imply, I guess you'd piss on them the same way as you would a pregnancy test, and it would just check for antibodies in the urine in the same way, the control line goes dark to say it's working, and the enzyme impregnated line goes dark if you're pregant� with corvid.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

What happened with that, anyway? I'm sure I remember talk of there being two or three strains identified but at the time no data on whether any of them was better or worse than the other, then it all got lost in the noise (and the apparent very close correlation of infection and death rates internationallly).

I'm not sure, a lot of it seems replaced with whoever is pushing this 'strange pneumonia' line.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:34

Saros: Dec 29, 2009; Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

The IGM/IGG tests look legit but they may not be very accurate, likely 60-70% in the early stages of infection at least but at least they shouldnt return false positives.

[e] most likely pinprick blood tests.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:34

Strom Cuzewon: Jul 1, 2010

Pablo Bluth posted:

The press coverage does make them sound like it's testing for generic class of antibodies but I came across this which says it is covid-19 specific antibodies.
https://www.biopanda.co.uk/php/products/rapid/infectious_diseases/covid19.php

Oh yeah, the graun get a special award for:

quote:

The test detects the presence of IGM, an antibody that arises very early on in the infection, and IGG, which is increased in the body�s response to the virus. The results of some of the tests on order can be read by anyone, but others would need to be interpreted by healthcare professionals.

Which is so close to being accurate, but also so very, very, wrong.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:34

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

XMNN posted:

also the cemetery has been unsealed, so not sure quite what was going on there. the guys turning people away were saying it was closed for three weeks, but maybe there were complaints from people who wanted to visit graves

why are they complaining? the graves aren't going anywhere

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:35

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

The dradiuen says you have to prick yourself with them to get blood on it.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:36

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

My dog loves the hoover and insists on being given a quick going over whenever I use it.

Your "dog"

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:36

Bardeh: Dec 2, 2004; Fun Shoe

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

why are they complaining? the graves aren't going anywhere

grandad will get cross if he doesn't have his flowers

also, I have done like, 1 hour tops of work today, wondering how long until someone cottons on tbh

Bardeh fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 25, 2020

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:38

Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

The BBC are suspending those 450 layoffs to their news divisions they were planning, good to know that if something big happens in future they simply won't be able to cope.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:44

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

The angry dead must be appeased lest they rise and take vengeance upon the living, which is the last thing you need with all the other stuff going on.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:44

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

https://twitter.com/Standplaats_KRK/status/1242106228941246472

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:46

Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

Will the depravity never cease?

https://twitter.com/sarah_ox_laugh/status/1242785242513117184

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:50

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

anyone got a quick rundown of who I should vote for in the NEC election?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:54

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Saros posted:

The IGM/IGG tests look legit but they may not be very accurate, likely 60-70% in the early stages of infection at least but at least they shouldnt return false positives.

[e] most likely pinprick blood tests.

I'm surprised, given that they stopped doing those in school (they used to do 'find your blood type' in biology) because students kept loving up and hurting themselves.

If it's the only way it's the only way, but it's a bit unusual to see something like that in a mass rollout. I guess you really don't want everyone queuing at public offices to get the test though.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:54

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Comrade Fakename posted:

Will the depravity never cease?

https://twitter.com/sarah_ox_laugh/status/1242785242513117184

Didn't know oliver was into pony play.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:56

Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

Jose posted:

anyone got a quick rundown of who I should vote for in the NEC election?

Leigh Drennan and Lauren Townsend.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:57

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Comrade Fakename posted:

Leigh Drennan and Lauren Townsend.

i read their statements and liked what i read so ok

# ? Mar 25, 2020 17:58

Roller Coast Guard: Aug 27, 2006; With this magnificent aircraft,
and my magnificent facial hair,
the British Empire will never fall!

Okay, so 3.5m kits, or enough to test one person in 20, once.

How long after that before we get another 3.5m?

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:01

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

Guavanaut posted:

I'm surprised, given that they stopped doing those in school (they used to do 'find your blood type' in biology) because students kept loving up and hurting themselves.

If it's the only way it's the only way, but it's a bit unusual to see something like that in a mass rollout. I guess you really don't want everyone queuing at public offices to get the test though.

anyone can get a pinprick blood test in the post already for a sexual health screening. no big deal

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:02

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Roller Coast Guard posted:

Okay, so 3.5m kits, or enough to test one person in 20, once.

How long after that before we get another 3.5m?

It'll accelerate quickly as people with testing kits come into contact with people that don't have testing kits. We can expect an exponential increase.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:04

Algol Star: Sep 6, 2010

Roller Coast Guard posted:

Okay, so 3.5m kits, or enough to test one person in 20, once.

How long after that before we get another 3.5m?

They should be pretty mass-producable if all is as claimed in the guardian.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:04

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

sebzilla posted:

Is there a good takedown of that FT article where they recklessly float the idea that 50% of the population may already have (had) the Roni, based on a study that says nothing of the sort?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ct_bergs...agenumber%3d214

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:06

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Cerv posted:

anyone can get a pinprick blood test in the post already for a sexual health screening. no big deal

People generally order those knowing some idea of what they'll have to do in advance though, it's a bit different to dropping 3.5m of them on a bunch of people already in pandemic mode.

Hopefully the media will be fully explaining things in the weeks ahead so we don't get a repeat of that one student who manages to gouge out a chunk of their fingat and gets blood everywhere and has to go to the school nurse on a national scale during a healthcare emergency.

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thespaceinvader: Mar 30, 2011; The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Comrade Fakename posted:

Will the depravity never cease?

https://twitter.com/sarah_ox_laugh/status/1242785242513117184

Well if that didn't do it, openly admitting on Twitter to voting Tory in the last 4 elections should.

I hate that I can't be 100% sure this is a parody though. I'm about 98% sure, but there's still that tiny ounce of 'yes but people can be truly that loving dense'.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:07

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