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flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Fidelitious posted:

I know people want to post information, but anyone posting poo poo like this needs to seriously source it properly. There's already a ridiculous amount of misinformation that cycles around, don't add to it.
Thank you to the other people who clarified immediately though.

You're absolutely right, and my apology for sharing that. Thanks to everyone who corrected it as well. I got it from a USA Today article that I didn't read closely enough and legitimately did get panicked about it.

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upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

I thought the requirement for the cerb program was minimum $5000 in earned income for 2019?

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

mediaphage posted:

The risk isn't nothing, especially if all of this happens within a couple of minutes, but I don't see it being a big chance. It's worth trying to keep your phone clean regardless.

I'm not a doctor, but I feel confident saying if you're washing your hands after touching any packaging that you're afraid may have some into contact with COVID in transit or at the shop, the risk is negligible.

If that isn't true, then we're all pretty hosed. I mean, 100% infection rate hosed.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

upgunned shitpost posted:

I thought the requirement for the cerb program was minimum $5000 in earned income for 2019?
Apparently, here's the bill: https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/43-1/bill/C-13/royal-assent
$5000 min part

quote:

worker means a person who is at least 15 years of age, who is resident in Canada and who, for 2019 or in the 12-month period preceding the day on which they make an application under section 5, has a total income of at least $5,000 — or, if another amount is fixed by regulation, of at least that amount — from the following sources:
(a) employment;
(b) self-employment;
(c) benefits paid to the person under any of subsections 22(1), 23(1), 152.‍04(1) and 152.‍05(1) of the Employment Insurance Act; and
(d) allowances, money or other benefits paid to the person under a provincial plan because of pregnancy or in respect of the care by the person of one or more of their new-born children or one or more children placed with them for the purpose of adoption.‍ (travailleur)

large hands
Jan 24, 2006

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

My job involves testing medical devices for usability. This made me scream and want to hurl myself out a window. Ventilators are loving complicated. Trained medical professionals make mistakes with them that can harm a patient. Forget nurses, respiratory therapists, whose whole job is to do this poo poo can accidentally make harmful errors because of how complex these things can be, or because an alarm wasn't clear, or a dozen other reasons.

Do you know why people in my line of work enjoy testing devices that non-medical people are supposed to use? Like, home care devvices and the like. It's the the twisted amusement of watching all the new and baffling ways they can find to completely and utterly break things even with all the training in the world that a company can give them. It's a loving learning experience in unexpected ways someone could kill a patient. I've seen people have a full day's training on the simplest infusion pump and then hang an IV bag upside down dude.

Getting non-medical personnel to manage ventilators is downright homicidal even with training. Gah.


No need to scream man, we're all stressed out for bigger reasons than internet discussions. You don't need non medical people changing the settings, doctors and nurses don't, leave that to RTs. Managing, recognising alarms and keeping people alive on a vent is something that intelligent people can learn to do to help out if it's a choice between that and letting people die while the machines sit unused.

IV bags have a hook on the top and ports on the bottom... how the hell do you hang one upside down?

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

quote:

Student Loans
Canada Student Loans payments will be deferred for a period of 6 months. Payments will be paused, and no interest will accrue on the amount owing. If you also have student loans with the Government of Saskatchewan, a 6-month loan payment deferral has also been implemented, mirroring the federal relief. Student loans from your financial institution may also qualify for a skip-a-payment plan, but you should contact your financial institution to find out the options available to you and what makes the most sense with your financial situation.

Excellent!

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/CBCNews/status/1242994680570294272

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Regular poor starving almost homeless Canadians can wait 10+ days but oil CEOs only have to wait hours.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Someone on my FB feed who up until a few days ago was all 'Its just a flu, bro!' bitched about how the Canada Emergency Response Benefit doesn't help him because he lives off of his investment dividends, not by working.

He apparently wasn't happy with my response and now we aren't FB friends anymore.

Doctor
Jul 22, 2005

GO TO YOUR ROOM!
I’m still confused about the CERB. I’m a sessional instructor on contract who will be working remotely starting next month due to quarantine measures at the uni. However since there’s usually not a hell of a lot of teaching going on in the summer, I usually work at my other job as an auxiliary municipal employee to make ends meet. Those hours have been entirely cancelled. I’m definitely not eligible for EI but it sounds like I might be eligible for CERB?

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
"Yes hello, is this the energy sector? It's Morneau."
*gurgles*

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Doctor posted:

I’m still confused about the CERB. I’m a sessional instructor on contract who will be working remotely starting next month due to quarantine measures at the uni. However since there’s usually not a hell of a lot of teaching going on in the summer, I usually work at my other job as an auxiliary municipal employee to make ends meet. Those hours have been entirely cancelled. I’m definitely not eligible for EI but it sounds like I might be eligible for CERB?

Apply anyways is my advice to anybody who is going to be facing work shortage due to lack of work in almost any respect related to covid19

Doctor
Jul 22, 2005

GO TO YOUR ROOM!

The Duggler posted:

Apply anyways is my advice to anybody who is going to be facing work shortage due to lack of work in almost any respect related to covid19

That’s currently the plan, can’t hurt to try.

just another
Oct 16, 2009

these dead towns that make the maps wrong now

EvilJoven posted:

Someone on my FB feed who up until a few days ago was all 'Its just a flu, bro!' bitched about how the Canada Emergency Response Benefit doesn't help him because he lives off of his investment dividends, not by working.

He apparently wasn't happy with my response and now we aren't FB friends anymore.

how many unlistenedto dave rubin podcasts do you think he's got on his phone

edit:
it was a joke about "heterodox" "thinkers" & Red Racer does go down easy

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

pokeyman posted:

"Yes hello, is this the energy sector? It's Morneau."
*gurgles*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVGg_5grOTg

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

luv 2 see "gently caress landlords, rent strike" posters posted up around my housing co-operative. Somehow after these people became members they forgot that we are a non-profit member owned co-op? Really hope the government comes through with some kind of support for renters, our budget can't afford $60k a month deficit and I'm afraid of my co-op going belly up. An equivalent privately owned unit around here to what I pay in rent currently is like $700/mo more

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE
How about the outcry on the banks for leveraging mortgage holders for more interest?

Trapick
Apr 17, 2006

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

luv 2 see "gently caress landlords, rent strike" posters posted up around my housing co-operative. Somehow after these people became members they forgot that we are a non-profit member owned co-op? Really hope the government comes through with some kind of support for renters, our budget can't afford $60k a month deficit and I'm afraid of my co-op going belly up. An equivalent privately owned unit around here to what I pay in rent currently is like $700/mo more
I love this. I bet the self employed ones are thinking of going on strike too.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1242999333026439169

:canada:

Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005

God drat that is wonderful

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave



Alright goons, I'm putting the call out: if you're able bodied and healthy make an appointment. If I can give blood you can too.

Thanks to Helsing and I think Infernal machines for giving me the kick in the butt/ inspiration I needed

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Political class: "We all have to work together and make sacrifices during these trying times."

Working class: *organizes and strikes to support and protect each other from the managerial class*

Political class: "No not like that"

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Saw him on FB, what a leader :swoon:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Another Bill posted:

Thanks to Helsing and I think Infernal machines for giving me the kick in the butt/ inspiration I needed

I don't think I did anything, but thank you for your service. Your life force is appreciated in these trying times.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Another Bill posted:



Alright goons, I'm putting the call out: if you're able bodied and healthy make an appointment. If I can give blood you can too.

Thanks to Helsing and I think Infernal machines for giving me the kick in the butt/ inspiration I needed

I already did, between my girlfriend and I they got a liter of the good stuff

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Scorchy posted:

I found this long article helpful for summarizing all the various programs going around:

https://www.conexusmoneytalk.ca/blog/breaking-down-the-emergency-funds-for-covid-19-individuals-families/


Am I reading this wrong, or is there literally nothing in this for renters but homeowners get mortgage deferments?

Holy poo poo we literally are pond scum in this society huh

Scorchy
Jul 15, 2006

Smug Statement: Elementary, my dear meatbag.

mila kunis posted:

Am I reading this wrong, or is there literally nothing in this for renters but homeowners get mortgage deferments?

Holy poo poo we literally are pond scum in this society huh

What province are you in? BC just announced 500$ a month for renters affected, no evictions and no rent increases.

Mortgage deferments still accrue interest and gently caress up your credit rating by the way so it's not like anyone should be using that unless they are desperate.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Scorchy posted:

What province are you in? BC just announced 500$ a month for renters affected, no evictions and no rent increases.

Mortgage deferments still accrue interest and gently caress up your credit rating by the way so it's not like anyone should be using that unless they are desperate.

BC announced 500$ a month to landlords, with the renter filling out the application to get the landlord money, with no guarantees that the subsidy is then passed onto the renter

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

MA-Horus posted:

I already did, between my girlfriend and I they got a liter of the good stuff

I apologize, it was you and not Infernal I was thinking of. Thank you for the motivation!

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

A Typical Goon posted:

BC announced 500$ a month to landlords, with the renter filling out the application to get the landlord money, with no guarantees that the subsidy is then passed onto the renter

It gets applied against your rent due, though? It's going "to landlords" because the government is paying $500 of your rent for you.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

luv 2 see "gently caress landlords, rent strike" posters posted up around my housing co-operative. Somehow after these people became members they forgot that we are a non-profit member owned co-op? Really hope the government comes through with some kind of support for renters, our budget can't afford $60k a month deficit and I'm afraid of my co-op going belly up. An equivalent privately owned unit around here to what I pay in rent currently is like $700/mo more

Sup fellow member of a non-profit member owned Co-Op. Luckily I haven't seen any rent strikes in my building but it kind of sucks that such a thing right now would screw us over big time seeing that we need those monies to keep the building going, and seeing that it is an old building we constantly have to do maintenance on it. Luckily it seems most of us are pulling through for one another in small ways and someone just posted a info about how to get money if people need help making the monthly dues and we do do some small subsidies for those who can't afford afford full payment.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1243201211580506112
i? what

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



get this, the president of the united states is a game show host who bankrupted 4 casinos

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

They're not doing it to keep us out. We have resources they need

Being a vassal state won't help us when it's us or them

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

apatheticman posted:

Shes being nice.... letting you have that .01%

In light of "the situation" she's just postponed my rent increase.

Everything's turning up Milhouse

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
the annexation of canada by the united states along with mounting tensions with china is the background to the start of fallout 1

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Pinterest Mom posted:

It gets applied against your rent due, though? It's going "to landlords" because the government is paying $500 of your rent for you.

Because if there's one person I trust to be honest about the subsidy they got from the government, it's my scumbag landlord

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


Pinterest Mom posted:

It gets applied against your rent due, though? It's going "to landlords" because the government is paying $500 of your rent for you.

like that won't be universally abused lmao

Trapick
Apr 17, 2006

??? If your landlord says "I didn't get it" tell them to talk to the government and write your cheque for $500 less. I don't think it's a great program but I'm not seeing a huge abuse potential.

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Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave


Hopefully they only annex Alberta.

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