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Volmarias posted:The idea is that you're not putting out garbage that you wouldn't use yourself. What baffles me is, Microsoft's internal system administrators have physical access to the developers who wrote this poo poo. How are there not constant stories about screaming matches in the cafeteria between the people who have to run Windows, and the people who wrote it ?
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CommieGIR posted:Give a better saying then. Do the stuff I'm preaching
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Mustache Ride posted:Do the stuff I'm preaching Cool Ill use it. But you still understood what I meant.
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can we also stop using the term "bug" for a glitch? i don't like bugs
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Last Chance posted:can we also stop using the term "bug" for a glitch? i don't like bugs What if it's a glitch caused by a bug?
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astral posted:What if it's a glitch caused by a bug? Undocumented behaviour
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beuges posted:Undocumented behaviour
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mllaneza posted:What baffles me is, Microsoft's internal system administrators have physical access to the developers who wrote this poo poo. How are there not constant stories about screaming matches in the cafeteria between the people who have to run Windows, and the people who wrote it ? Because the only people at Microsoft that use Windows are the couple of people on Insiders team that do webcasts.
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In my mind, I'm imagining the internal network at MSFT to be some sort of Dante's Inferno levels of hell of Windows vulnerabilities.
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mllaneza posted:What baffles me is, Microsoft's internal system administrators have physical access to the developers who wrote this poo poo. How are there not constant stories about screaming matches in the cafeteria between the people who have to run Windows, and the people who wrote it ? When you're the ones writing the software, you're probably also able to deploy and configure it in very useful ways and lean on said developers to ensure that things you in particular need, get attention. There's also unlikely to be any "well we're still using Vista in 2017, let's look at upgrading to windows 7" nonsense. Working at a certain large company that produces its own productivity software, I'm also able to complain loudly and at least hear a reason why my particular issue is not trivial to solve, or is already on the roadmap, so I'm more forgiving here. What's wild to me is hearing about how people back in the early 90s liked DOS and Windows because it let them hack on their own machines and tinker with things. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Mar 15, 2020 |
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Volmarias posted:When you're the ones writing the software, you're probably also able to deploy and configure it in very useful ways and lean on said developers to ensure that things you in particular need, get attention. There's also unlikely to be any "well we're still using Vista in 2017, let's look at upgrading to windows 7" nonsense. Working at a certain large company that produces its own productivity software, I'm also able to complain loudly and at least hear a reason why my particular issue is not trivial to solve, or is already on the roadmap, so I'm more forgiving here. I remember hex editing command.com. I always ran Mega Hard Dick Operating System on my computer
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Yeah. Back then, home computer owner demographics were strongly skewed towards “computer enthusiasts” who had already learnt and expected that these were messy systems that required lots of guts POKEing just to get games running, sound working, etc.
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poo poo I remember using a chip puller and inserter to upgrade the family IBM XT from 512K to 640K. Given I was 14 at the time, it was pretty nerve wracking since I went ahead and did it without telling my dad.
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Proteus Jones posted:poo poo I remember using a chip puller and inserter to upgrade the family IBM XT from 512K to 640K. Given I was 14 at the time, it was pretty nerve wracking since I went ahead and did it without telling my dad. A few years later we accidentally hot-swapped a PCI modem on an MMX-era Pentium system when we were switching back and forth trying to solve a problem and forgot to shut the computer down first. It's amazing how quickly that sense of fragility goes away (though we still both had a "oh gently caress.....wait....it's still running.....wow...." moment).
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Proteus Jones posted:poo poo I remember using a chip puller and inserter to upgrade the family IBM XT from 512K to 640K. Given I was 14 at the time, it was pretty nerve wracking since I went ahead and did it without telling my dad. never did it with system RAM, but I had an expansion board that added a whole 2M when you filled all the banks with chips. that poo poo was cool as hell to kid me building it. they need to make more computers like that
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mllaneza posted:What baffles me is, Microsoft's internal system administrators have physical access to the developers who wrote this poo poo. How are there not constant stories about screaming matches in the cafeteria between the people who have to run Windows, and the people who wrote it ? Lots of Kool-Aid Last Chance posted:can we also stop using the term "bug" for a glitch? i don't like bugs You're not supposed to like bugs, you're supposed to eradicate them. Also, it's called a bug because the first one was a literal bug in a relay. beuges posted:Undocumented behaviour D. Ebdrup posted:Also known as: users. wolrah posted:I remember my dad and I both carefully triple checking the process and orientation when adding additional SIMMs to our first PC. Grounding ourselves religiously, not taking the cards out of the bag until the absolute last second, etc. It was such a relief watching the POST RAM counter keep going after 2048KB. I gave up on all the static precautions and poo poo decades ago. Now whenever a user questions me about it while I'm working with RAM or their SSD, I make sure to rub my fingers along the contacts a few times. And threaten to lick it. I have to assert dominance.
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Darchangel posted:I gave up on all the static precautions and poo poo decades ago. if you are touching a plugged in case, you are grounded and safe
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Darchangel posted:I gave up on all the static precautions and poo poo decades ago. RFC2324 posted:if you are touching a plugged in case, you are grounded and safe
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Darchangel posted:You're not supposed to like bugs, you're supposed to eradicate them. Thomas Edison, 1878 posted:It has been just so in all of my inventions. The first step is an intuition, and comes with a burst, then difficulties arise—this thing gives out and [it is] then that "Bugs"—as such little faults and difficulties are called—show themselves and months of intense watching, study and labor are requisite before commercial success or failure is certainly reached. F4rt5 fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Mar 19, 2020 |
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RFC2324 posted:if you are touching a plugged in case, you are grounded and safe Exactly. F4rt5 posted:A common misconception. The incident you are thinking of was the first LITERAL bug found in a computer. The expression was in use before that. Huh. I read that it was a literal bug in a relay in, I believe it was, UNIVAC that gave them the name.
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Darchangel posted:Huh. I read that it was a literal bug in a relay in, I believe it was, UNIVAC that gave them the name. https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/technology/innovation/when-computer-bugs-where-real-insects/ quote:The story is so popular that, like any story often told, it has become distorted over the years. Contrary to the version circulating today, that episode was not the one that coined the term ‘bug’ for computer errors, nor the verb ‘debugging’ for their correction. The truth is that, well before this incident, these words were often used to refer to the malfunctions of machines, as evidenced by the notes of the inventor Thomas Edison in the 1870s. In fact, sources from the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) have attributed the coining of these terms to Edison himself, and in the era of the Mark II, the computer engineers at Harvard used them regularly.
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F4rt5 posted:A common misconception. The incident you are thinking of was the first LITERAL bug found in a computer. The expression was in use before that. Huh. I guess I've learned something today. Neat.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Do not buy or use third party AV products. Please. Thank you. I've been using ESET NOD 32 since forever ago - both for antivirus and firewall. Is the microsoft windows defender now the way to go? Finally getting ready to build a new computer and trying to play catch up.
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King Keltair posted:I've been using ESET NOD 32 since forever ago - both for antivirus and firewall. Is the microsoft windows defender now the way to go? Finally getting ready to build a new computer and trying to play catch up. Yes, use Windows Defender.
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King Keltair posted:I've been using ESET NOD 32 since forever ago - both for antivirus and firewall. Is the microsoft windows defender now the way to go? Finally getting ready to build a new computer and trying to play catch up. Defender is kicking rear end.
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Thanks guys!
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Those of you who manage BitLocker within an organization, do you also prevent access to manage-bde? Curious about compensating controls.
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Doesn't doing anything with manage-bde require elevation?
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Diva Cupcake posted:Those of you who manage BitLocker within an organization, do you also prevent access to manage-bde? Curious about compensating controls. whats bde? I've never heard of it.
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bdez nutz
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Billa posted:whats bde? I've never heard of it. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/manage-bde
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The Fool posted:Doesn't doing anything with manage-bde require elevation? Only 3 more years until the Intune rollout and we can get rid of MBAM.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Those of you who manage BitLocker within an organization, do you also prevent access to manage-bde? Curious about compensating controls. One of the old tricks is deter people is to modified the default acls to the executable so the standard admins/users groups can't execute and you need to be in a domain admins group or similar.
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# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:39 |
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Has anyone got a link to a good, consolidated technical deep dive on the current Zoom vulnerabilities? The UNC path one sounds interesting.
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Zoom: oh hey you got a link for meeting Link: \\420.69.13.13\C$ Your system: *attempts to log in*
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So if they're WFH on an enterprise Win 10 machine, the attacker that owns/listens on 420.69.13.13 now has your password? This attack would work if someone clicked the link on a website though, not just from a Zoom chat?
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Potato Salad posted:Zoom: oh hey you got a link for meeting how did you get my IP address
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I thought everyone knew that your computer would broadcast an IP address unless you have several layers of third-party security software installed.
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CLAM DOWN posted:how did you get my IP address Zorak of Michigan posted:I thought everyone knew that your computer would broadcast an IP address unless you have several layers of third-party security software installed.
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Minix is Intel. What does AMD run?
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