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I find that in Mono-G Brawl, Guardian Project and The Great Henge are just about the only non-creature effects really worth running. Every other permanent should be a threat. Any of the draw spells, or the ramp spells aren’t worth running. Finale is fine to run because it’s a win-con, but I would strongly consider cutting everything that can’t beat someone to death.
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Wafflecopper posted:Beast is on the list but statue would be my first cut yeah Statue was something I threw in because it seemed like if I could get it out quick it could cripple people. It already happened a couple times but I'm willing to cut it for something else. The reason I don't have more removal is because there are a fuckton of creatureless control decks out there and I'm trying to minimize dead cards in hand. I could be convinced otherwise. Bust Rodd posted:I find that in Mono-G Brawl, Guardian Project and The Great Henge are just about the only non-creature effects really worth running. Every other permanent should be a threat. Any of the draw spells, or the ramp spells aren’t worth running. Finale is fine to run because it’s a win-con, but I would strongly consider cutting everything that can’t beat someone to death. Cool gimme some suggestions!
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I forgot how much I hate precon events. "Why the gently caress am I drawing this c...oh yeah."
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Bust Rodd posted:I find that in Mono-G Brawl, Guardian Project and The Great Henge are just about the only non-creature effects really worth running. Every other permanent should be a threat. Any of the draw spells, or the ramp spells aren’t worth running. Finale is fine to run because it’s a win-con, but I would strongly consider cutting everything that can’t beat someone to death. Yeah Brawl is mostly slow enough that you only desperately need ramp if your wincon is 7+ mana.
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thespaceinvader posted:Yeah Brawl is mostly slow enough that you only desperately need ramp if your wincon is 7+ mana. Well all my biggest beaters cost a ton of mana so wouldn't I want to ramp into Nissa ASAP?
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Stuff like Druids and Caryatid I could see taking, but you don't need the spells that just find lands, or the mana artifacts, for instance.
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Stuck forever at the updating screen, anyone else? EDIT: working now. Gynovore fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Mar 27, 2020 |
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Is there some thing about the preconstructed matchmaking that prevents mirror matches? I have never had one. 9:6 for the current event. And all my losses were with the fires deck against the red deck. And one of my 2 wins was one where my opponent would have one if he had the lands for t4 torban. The other one I was matched against the simic deck instead, which is slower.
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VictualSquid posted:Is there some thing about the preconstructed matchmaking that prevents mirror matches? I have never had one. Some of them disallow mirror matches all together, some try to avoid them if possible, and some don't care. The Elspeth vs. Ashiok singleton event with the power nine cards scattered through them was an instance where the mirror match wasn't allowed. The Ashiok deck was better than the Elspeth deck and as a result the queue times were like 10 minutes for a match when you queued with Ashiok, while you'd get instant matches as Elspeth.
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![]() I'm looking for 6 cuts to this B/G deck I drafted. I'm thinking of cutting 1 from each of the 2x cards that's in there currently. I'm thinking of cutting the Nyxborn Marauder since it's just a beater without any other benefits and the Inspire Awe for the last two. I'm trying to keep my graveyard fed since I have quite a few creatures with Escape so ideally I keep the cards that puts cards into my graveyard when played. Any thoughts?
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You definitely don't need two moss vipers or two return to natures, especially not with the Mystic Repeal as well. Grim Physician is pretty eh outside sac decks. So, those can definitely go (and by that I mean all 3 1 drop creatures and both RTNs), and Enemy of Enlightenment is pretty bad too. There's your six. I'd probably cut Inspire Awe for Wings, too. Polukranos is gonna be way better with Flying...
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yeah wings is good, put that in, and drop inspire awe as a four-mana fog that is sort of random seems useless to me
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Elephant Ambush posted:Cool gimme some suggestions! 20 Lands seems really low for a deck that wants to make use of Nissa, is my first impression., and that low a land count would diminish the effectiveness of Ilsyian Dryad and Grazer. I run a Questing Beast brawl deck that runs more low and mid-curve creatures and can play more of a miracle-grow style game with cards like wildborn preserver, setessan champion, yorvo, and hornbeetle. I don't have a lot of the pre-ELD rares and mythics and I'm not spending WCs on them at this point (most notably nissa, cavalier, ceratops, vivien, whisperer) so my deck is structured differently and I have had to seek out some more creative sources of card advantage, but here's what I'm running with: Commander 1 Questing Beast (ELD) 171 Deck 1 Castle Garenbrig (ELD) 240 1 Gingerbread Cabin (ELD) 245 1 Field of Ruin (THB) 242 1 Blast Zone (WAR) 244 20 Forest (THB) 287 1 Shadowspear (THB) 236 1 Gilded Goose (ELD) 160 1 Pelt Collector (GRN) 141 1 Destiny Spinner (THB) 168 1 Kraul Harpooner (GRN) 136 1 Leafkin Druid (M20) 178 1 Nessian Hornbeetle (THB) 182 1 Paradise Druid (WAR) 171 1 Warbriar Blessing (THB) 204 1 Wildborn Preserver (ELD) 182 1 Wolfwillow Haven (THB) 205 1 Lovestruck Beast (ELD) 165 1 The First Iroan Games (THB) 170 1 Setessan Champion (THB) 198 1 Thrashing Brontodon (M20) 197 1 Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig (ELD) 185 1 Arasta of the Endless Web (THB) 165 1 Nylea, Keen-Eyed (THB) 185 1 Nullhide Ferox (GRN) 138 1 Renata, Called to the Hunt (THB) 196 1 Oakhame Adversary (ELD) 167 1 Keeper of Fables (ELD) 163 1 God-Eternal Rhonas (WAR) 163 1 Feasting Troll King (ELD) 152 1 Return of the Wildspeaker (ELD) 172 1 Gargos, Vicious Watcher (M20) 172 1 Aggressive Mammoth (M20) 337 1 Beanstalk Giant (ELD) 149 1 Meteor Golem (M20) 232 1 The Great Henge (ELD) 161 1 Voracious Hydra (M20) 200 1 End-Raze Forerunners (RNA) 124 1 Stonecoil Serpent (ELD) 235 Again, the deck's running a lower curve and a different game plan, but at it's also still able to have a game plan even if its commander gets iced over and over. At the very least, I would recommend Wildborn Preserver and Thrashing Brontodon for your Nissa deck. They'll play well with Yorvo and Renata and Henge and give you some early plays that can have an impact.
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Got my FNM sleeve by joining a Discord for a local store that is actually not close enough for me to go to on Friday nights after work, but accepted me virtually. I see 8 people have sent screenshots in so far in that channel, the store just DMed me the code and it worked.
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Boco_T posted:Got my FNM sleeve by joining a Discord for a local store that is actually not close enough for me to go to on Friday nights after work, but accepted me virtually. I see 8 people have sent screenshots in so far in that channel, the store just DMed me the code and it worked. Thanks for the tip! Looks like my FLGS started a discord server for this too.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Cool gimme some suggestions! Commander 1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World (WAR) 169 Deck 19 Forest (UND) 96 1 Castle Garenbrig (ELD) 240 1 Arboreal Grazer (WAR) 149 1 Gilded Goose (ELD) 160 1 Pelt Collector (GRN) 141 1 Veil of Summer (M20) 198 1 Incubation Druid (RNA) 131 1 Kenrith's Transformation (ELD) 164 1 Once Upon a Time (ELD) 169 1 Pollenbright Druid (WAR) 173 1 Rabid Bite (M20) 190 1 Titanic Brawl (RNA) 146 1 Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (THB) 169 1 Evolution Sage (WAR) 159 1 Thrashing Brontodon (M20) 197 1 The First Iroan Games (THB) 170 1 Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig (ELD) 185 1 Vivien, Champion of the Wilds (WAR) 180 1 Beast Whisperer (GRN) 123 1 Bloom Hulk (WAR) 154 1 Nylea, Keen-Eyed (THB) 185 1 Guardian Project (RNA) 130 1 Questing Beast (ELD) 171 1 Renata, Called to the Hunt (THB) 196 1 Biogenic Ooze (RNA) 122 1 God-Eternal Rhonas (WAR) 163 1 Shared Summons (M20) 193 1 Beanstalk Giant (ELD) 149 1 Nyxbloom Ancient (THB) 190 1 Planewide Celebration (WAR) 172 1 Thorn Mammoth (ELD) 323 1 End-Raze Forerunners (RNA) 124 1 The Great Henge (ELD) 161 1 Finale of Devastation (WAR) 160 1 Voracious Hydra (M20) 200 1 Blast Zone (WAR) 244 1 Karn's Bastion (WAR) 248 1 Lotus Field (M20) 249 1 Shadowspear (THB) 236 1 Nyx Lotus (THB) 235 1 Cavalier of Thorns (M20) 167 Loving this deck, just pump out the fatties and draw more fatties
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Just for fun I'm cobbling together a Gruul Cavalcade deck that relies on fat-bodied green dorks to trigger Cavalcade, because it says "any creature with power 1 or less". Any advice to make this more consistent? Deck 3 Cavalcade of Calamity (RNA) 95 9 Forest (UND) 96 3 Rhythm of the Wild (RNA) 201 9 Mountain (UND) 94 4 Arboreal Grazer (WAR) 149 3 Gilded Goose (ELD) 160 3 Healer of the Glade (M20) 176 3 Wildwood Tracker (ELD) 183 3 Anax, Hardened in the Forge (THB) 125 4 Goblin Banneret (GRN) 102 3 Flaxen Intruder (ELD) 155 1 Temple of Abandon (THB) 244 2 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259 4 Bond of Flourishing (WAR) 155 3 Torbran, Thane of Red Fell (ELD) 147 3 Beast Whisperer (GRN) 123
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Can you only get 1 of the sleeves from mtga FNM or all 3?
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Elephant Ambush posted:Statue was something I threw in because it seemed like if I could get it out quick it could cripple people. It already happened a couple times but I'm willing to cut it for something else. Sometimes you'll catch your opponent short on lands with a hand of high CMC stuff, but a lot of the time they'll still be able to cast and it takes three spells before they've even spent the same amount of mana on it as you have. Mana they may not have even needed for anything else, spread out across several turns, while you probably spent a whole turn casting something that doesn't affect the board in a deck that's trying to win on the board. Just because it works occasionally (most cards do) doesn't mean it's not bad. Wafflecopper fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 27, 2020 |
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Bugsy posted:Can you only get 1 of the sleeves from mtga FNM or all 3?
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Bust Rodd posted:Commander STURB BROD Seriously thanks duder. I'll playtest what I have now based on everyone's suggestions and see what I'm willing to spend WCs on. I appreciate the list ![]()
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Any good Historic Pauper lists? I've never played the format before and would love to get in on it.
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Chow-King posted:
thespaceinvader posted:You definitely don't need two moss vipers or two return to natures, especially not with the Mystic Repeal as well. Grim Physician is pretty eh outside sac decks. So, those can definitely go (and by that I mean all 3 1 drop creatures and both RTNs), and Enemy of Enlightenment is pretty bad too. There's your six. I'd play Return to Nature before Omen of the Hunt in a deck with so few cards that cost more than 4. Also if they're cutting the 1 drops they're down to 11 creatures which is definitely not enough. I'd drop one Funeral Rites and Relentless Pursuit before the Vipers because you're gonna get smoked by anybody that actually plays creatures in the first 4 turns when you only have 3 creatures that cost 3 or less that are capable of blocking . This deck has so much air in it and barely any cards that are actually good. Did you just first pick Polukranos and hold onto BG for dear life? Lone Goat fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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the simic deck was ok, but not sure I really want to try the others after winning the two matches
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Hey thanks to everyone who helped me with my Nissa Brawl deck. I'm doing a lot better now.
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Wavebreak Hippocamp feels out of place in the flash deck in that like... i don't want to tap out on turn three, but if i'm not casting it fairly early on i'm not generating nearly enough value out of it I feel.
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![]() best poems about time Having a hard time figuring out if this deck can win with these cuts. Any thoughts? First pick was Galia
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The Simic Flash deck just folds like wet cardboard to the Golgari deck, by the way. Innkeeper obviously just murders the deck that's trying to trade one-for-one, but Foulmire Knight also stonewalls Brineborn Cutthroat and if they bounce it to try and attack you get to draw more cards. You can just sit back, bait out counters with unbeatable cards like Lucky Clover or Henge, and then kill them with the adventure half of Smitten Swordmaster since you have a pile of 1/1 deathtouchers, Knight of the Ebon Legion, Order of Midnight and/or Blacklance Paragon. Then you can Find to buy back more Smitten Swordmasters, or Orders of Midnight getting Smitten Swordmasters. Maybe don't try and build a flash archetype with one brazen borrower? I don't know
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Squiggly posted:
- oread, arena trickster, nexus wardens, satyr's cunning, mountain + impending doom, triumph of anax, tower scout, nyxborn brute you have two good escape cards so you don't need filler like cunning. you don't have enough ways of turning arena trickster on for it to be good at all. nexus wardens is a 1/4 in an aggro deck. oread is a 1/3 in an aggro deck. you have nessian wanderer, a low curve and a good enchantment count so you can easily get away with 16 lands. putting wings, impending doom and/or triumph of anax on some big idiot is basically your only way of closing out games so put those cards in. the part where you have no good big creatures at all - not even a skophos warleader, let alone a voracious typhon - makes me think you went way too cute on gallia. i do not like where this deck is going, generally.
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ungulateman posted:- oread, arena trickster, nexus wardens, satyr's cunning, mountain Didn't get offered anything bigger than the brute, unfortunately. Only things I skipped for satyrs was a warbriars. The mistake might have been going for r/g in general, though it was semi free as seen from my picks. Didn't see any major removals in other colors (black and white) so the green enchantment removal seemed good in comparison Appreciate the help, I'll try and record draft offerings next time Edit: no other escape cards offered, should've said Squiggly fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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The Golgari deck is cool and fun and I won with it.
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Used https://mtgadraft.herokuapp.com tonight to play through 2 full drafts of Historic Peasant Cube on Arena. Sat on Google Hangouts to chat while drafting. Site’s very easy to use, saw it on Going Optimal. Loaded the list, set it to have 4 bots, drafted, exported to Arena and played the games with direct challenge. We drafted twice and played 6 rounds in a little over 3 hours. The games were sweet, I made UR Spells the first time and WB Removal Vampires the second time. The power level on the decks was high and the opened packs were stacked because you really collect up a lot of good uncommons when you pull from like 10 sets. I highly recommend it under quarantine. You can also do regular set drafts with your collection loaded in so that you guarantee you won’t need to spend wildcards to build deck you draft.
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This is where I've gone with Izzet. Phoenix Possibilities 3 Pteramander 4 Merfolk Secretkeeper 4 Goblin Electromancer 3 Bonecrusher Giant 2 Phoenix of Ash 2 Brazen Borrower 4 Arclight Phoenix 3 Chandra's Pyrohelix 2 Beacon Bolt 3 Shimmer of Possibility 4 Thrill of Possibility 4 Winged Words 2 Temple of Epiphany 4 Steam Vents 7 Mountain 9 Island It's super fun for me when it works but it seems like every stupid jerk runs exiling removal or outright graveyard hate. It's depressing.
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Jabor posted:You could counter the problem cards (if you're in Blue), and/or exile Thassa before Agent becomes an issue (if you're in White). Sorry, you're probably just offering helpful suggestions, but it's really not as simple as "well, how come people don't just do this?" People do. But some stuff is just unbalanced and that's all there really is to it.
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Squiggly posted:
Portent with only one sac outlet?
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Servers seem to be hosed again. I can't get through a game without it hanging. This is awesome.
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Just 4-1'ed the historic pauper event with this, only loss was a mull to 5 against mono-R. Deck 4 Heliod's Pilgrim (THB) 20 4 Healer's Hawk (GRN) 14 4 Law-Rune Enforcer (WAR) 20 12 Plains (MIR) 331 4 Pacifism (M20) 32 4 Sentinel's Eyes (THB) 36 4 Transcendent Envoy (THB) 40 4 Ancestral Mask (MMQ) 229 6 Forest (MIR) 347 4 Flutterfox (ELD) 12 2 Territorial Hammerskull (XLN) 41 4 Blossoming Sands (M20) 243 4 Karametra's Blessing (THB) 26 Beat burn, mono-B ill-gotten gains, mono-w tokens, and two other ??? archetypes. Unsure about Pacifism vs. Trapped in the Tower, in the last match wish I had TitT but twice in the run it was better to have Pacifism to remove their fliers. Netted 100 gold and a Settle the Wreckage, not too shabby. Judgy Fucker fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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Wowee, rode the bonecrusher giants in my kill everything deck to 3 more victories, mostly against mono r.
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Been playing this deck, feels super solid and also true to the video thumbnail so I'm only playing it against randos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSeQH-UARJE&t=3s
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TipTow posted:Just 4-1'ed the historic pauper event with this, only loss was a mull to 5 against mono-R. Thanks for this. I've never done Historic or Pauper before so I need good places to start.
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