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https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1243625924828041217?s=20 Guess we don't need ventilators after all!
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Mar 27, 2020 21:19
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eric ciaramella posted:why is there such a difference in the death rate between USA and Italy? i know italy is old, and testing is poo poo and all, but there's a big difference between 1.5% and ~10% death rates. our ICU's aren't totally overwhelmed yet
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Mar 27, 2020 21:19
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Burn Zone posted:is this like the three seashells?
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Mar 27, 2020 21:19
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https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1243593186741805057
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Mar 27, 2020 21:20
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https://twitter.com/lauraolson/status/1243631957604474880
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Mar 27, 2020 21:20
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Bar Crow posted:Unfortunately he’s also forcing medical device manufacturers to start making cars. Your new SUV is $450,000, but we can guarantee it will never put an air bubble into your veins
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Mar 27, 2020 21:20
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Morbus posted:There is kind of a grey area between "infection completely cleared" and "suppressed to the point its not making me sick but can still be passed on". Flu, norovirus, most common colds, all remain contagious for often 1-2+ weeks after symptoms clear.  Yeah it makes sense it would ramp up and ramp down like that and you only feel sick at the peak. I just always thought once you felt better it was gone. Welp!
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Mar 27, 2020 21:20
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:how much do we have to be fudging the death numbers to have more cases than china but 1/3 of the deaths? or is it still too early Death usually takes around two weeks, and during exponential growth, at least half the cases are at least as new as the doubling period (currently ~2.5 days). In fact the majority of cases haven't even reached the ~5 days to develop symptoms. When exponential growth stops (due to success of interventions or simple lack of hosts), deaths will start catching up like a goddamn freight train.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:20
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:how much do we have to be fudging the death numbers to have more cases than china but 1/3 of the deaths? or is it still too early It's early and we're still reluctant to test. People who die untested don't count toward the number. Also, if some other condition is the direct cause of death, it doesn't count toward the number.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:20
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Admiral Ray posted:our ICU's aren't totally overwhelmed yet also our doctors and nurses haven't started getting it in large numbers yet
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Mar 27, 2020 21:21
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https://twitter.com/charlesornstein/status/1243633007577182208
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Mar 27, 2020 21:21
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a god drat idiot posted:There is a three week lag between infection and death. You won't be tested immediately so say 2 weeks from positive ID to the end. is that really true? seems like most of the bad cases i've read about, including deaths, developed symptoms and then ended up at the hospital within a week or less.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:21
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:it's also why surf and turf became a thing, since steak and lobster were just the two most expensive things you could order and buying them together became a show of extravagant wealth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut6MSMqxmlE
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Mar 27, 2020 21:21
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totally under control
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Mar 27, 2020 21:21
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Thesaurus posted:Otoh itll be good not to die in a conflagration while literally everyone is home and simultaneously cooking on their stoves and ovens. Being home this much reminded me to get new batteries for my smoke detector and CO detector.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:22
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eric ciaramella posted:why is there such a difference in the death rate between USA and Italy? i know italy is old, and testing is poo poo and all, but there's a big difference between 1.5% and ~10% death rates. Give it 7-10 days.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:22
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Rah! posted:is that really true? Yes, it takes weeks: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf quote:Using available preliminary data, the median time from onset to clinical recovery for mild cases is approximately 2 weeks and is3-6 weeks for patients with severe or critical disease. Preliminary data suggests that the time period from onset to the development ofsevere disease, including hypoxia,is 1 week. Among patients who have died, the time from symptom onset to outcome ranges from2-8 weeks.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:23
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Easter is going to get biblical
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Mar 27, 2020 21:23
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someone was asking a few days ago if there were still minimum income requirements to get those checks. Yep! “(2) TAXPAYER DESCRIBED.—A taxpayer is described in this paragraph if the taxpayer— “(A) has qualifying income of at least $2,500, or “(B) has— “(i) net income tax liability which is greater than zero, and “(ii) gross income which is greater than the basic standard deduction. [...] e) Definitions.—For purposes of this section— “(1) QUALIFYING INCOME.—The term ‘qualifying income’ means— “(A) earned income, “(B) social security benefits (within the meaning of section 86(d)), and “(C) any compensation or pension received under chapter 11, chapter 13, or chapter 15 of title 38, United States Code.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:23
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eric ciaramella posted:why is there such a difference in the death rate between USA and Italy? i know italy is old, and testing is poo poo and all, but there's a big difference between 1.5% and ~10% death rates. the US is massively undercounting deaths
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Mar 27, 2020 21:24
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a Congress critter is going to die soon it is just a matter of which one plz be Rand
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Mar 27, 2020 21:24
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Being home this much reminded me to get new batteries for my smoke detector and CO detector. a week ago my smoke detector starting beeping but i couldnt get it off the wall so i ignored it, if it tries that again im going to go buck wild and just generally berserk
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Mar 27, 2020 21:24
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greatest dem hoax in history
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Mar 27, 2020 21:24
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eric ciaramella posted:why is there such a difference in the death rate between USA and Italy? i know italy is old, and testing is poo poo and all, but there's a big difference between 1.5% and ~10% death rates. USA isn't testing dead bodies, literally cancelling ordered tests once they die. Number can't go up if you don't check for it.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:24
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this seems...not smart https://twitter.com/SharonannMSF/status/1243633828742168578
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Mar 27, 2020 21:24
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Inceltown posted:USA isn't testing dead bodies, literally cancelling ordered tests once they die. Number can't go up if you don't check for it. there's also some "sure, he had COVID, but what if something else killed him?"" shenanigans.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:25
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https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/status/1243630029436784646 trump is shook.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:25
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Looks like I caught Influenza A and am quarantined from work.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:26
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empty whippet box posted:the US is massively undercounting deaths Yep! they aren't testing presumptive cases who die before testing is done. So people who go in really sick directly on a ventilator, probably not tested. Dead in your bed? Not tested.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:26
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Public-Private Partnership!
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Mar 27, 2020 21:26
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also because this is america there's a bunch of dead people who didn't go to the hospital because it would financially ruin them, and we won't find their bodies for weeks/months 
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Mar 27, 2020 21:27
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Doorknob Slobber posted:Yep! they aren't testing presumptive cases who die before testing is done. So people who go in really sick directly on a ventilator, probably not tested. Dead in your bed? Not tested. this isn't necessarily some conspiracy poo poo, at this point anyway, it's because we're still drastically short on tests so we need to save them for living people rather than classifying the dead
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Mar 27, 2020 21:27
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Reminder that we generally think there are probably as many as a million cases of COVID in the US right now. Testing is mostly about our expanding capability to test
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Mar 27, 2020 21:27
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brugroffil posted:this isn't necessarily some conspiracy poo poo, at this point anyway, it's because we're still drastically short on tests so we need to save them for living people rather than classifying the dead As far as I understand it, Italy allows for pretty liberal classification of Coronavirus deaths even without testing.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:27
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well this is stressful
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Mar 27, 2020 21:28
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D1E posted:Public-Private Partnership! Where are our Wal-Mart drive thru testing centers? Where is our Google site?
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Mar 27, 2020 21:28
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Woah Tmurp invoked the piss act. See you in hell
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Mar 27, 2020 21:28
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Inceltown posted:USA isn't testing dead bodies, literally cancelling ordered tests once they die. Number can't go up if you don't check for it. is anyone counting "deaths from respiratory failure"? or just "deaths that are not expected given the average death rate this time of year"
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Lambert posted:As far as I understand it, Italy allows for pretty liberal classification of Coronavirus deaths even without testing. Some places are definitely allowing for symptom diagnosis by a doctor, whatever the technical term for that is, rather than an actual COVID test for sure. I *think* some places in the US are allowing that?? Maybe not idk.
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