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bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

nerdz posted:

Massive amount of people walking around in bars in Rio at night. Like I said, not from this week though but still super bad

This.



Yeah saw that too, very big brains all around.


https://twitter.com/ubesoficial/status/1241522773463371779


Meanwhile, the panelaços are picking up.

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Global Disorder
Jan 9, 2020

bagual posted:


Meanwhile, the panelaços are picking up.

Yeah, maybe, just maybe, Bolsonaro may actually be impeached. It depends on timing. It's unlikely to happen now, when people can't go to the streets to put pressure on politicians, and it's also unlikely to happen much after the covid-19 quarantine is over, when we'll move on and forget about the past as usual.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
So in the morning bolsonaro published an MP that authorizes companies to suspend salaries of quaratined workers

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2020/03/mp-de-bolsonaro-suspende-contrato-de-trabalho-por-4-meses.shtml

They will only have to keep paying benefits

This is a move to force workers out of quarantine

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


I'm pretty sure I said it before but I'm saying it again:
Bolsonaro should be lynched and executed, Gadaffi-style.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Why am I seeing #bolsonarogenocida popping up?

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Crowsbeak posted:

Why am I seeing #bolsonarogenocida popping up?

If you can bother to read two posts up, you'll pretty much find out.

Also, we have a saying here in Brazil that goes like "whoever has a butthole, has fear".
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/merca...-trabalho.shtml

Apparently he's now revoking that lovely provisional measure.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Negostrike posted:

If you can bother to read two posts up, you'll pretty much find out.

Also, we have a saying here in Brazil that goes like "whoever has a butthole, has fear".
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/merca...-trabalho.shtml

Apparently he's now revoking that lovely provisional measure.

So. It’s that not any other awful thing?

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Whatever other awful thing you're referring to is probably just normal stuff here.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/Hezbolsonaro/status/1242605613433184256

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


maybe this pandemic is what the country really needed just to shake the population violently to make them realize what Bolsonaro really is about, and never ever forget it

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

frajaq posted:

maybe this pandemic is what the country really needed just to shake the population violently to make them realize what Bolsonaro really is about, and never ever forget it

or maybe that's not really how fascism works... i guess food riots are one way to overthrow a regime, but it's not a very humane one. you know wrt to people getting killed by fascist freikorps and all

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Im just.. baffled

I cant decide anymore, if they went completely crazy or if there's some strategy hidden on it

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


I just dont want him to get away with this stupid bullshit lol

Global Disorder
Jan 9, 2020
The bastard's not gonna kill us all, but it sure won't be for lack of trying.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Bolsonaro is digging his own grave. Unfortunately it's also a mass grave. By the time everyone but the hardcore Bonoro supporters finally realize "oh poo poo this guy IS the worst" a lot of people will have died.

Apparently there's talk of sacking the Minister of Health because he's in favor of the quarantine measures:

https://twitter.com/albertocalmeida/status/1242778691727491073

It's just rumors, but yeah. Brazil might be hosed. Bolsonaro and his supporters are evoking Japan as an example of "hey we can return to normalcy now", without taking into account that Japan is definitely underreporting cases, already has a self-isolation culture in place and is also supposed to be on the "stable" part of the curve, while cases in Brazil are beating the Italian curve so far.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Dias posted:

Bolsonaro is digging his own grave. Unfortunately it's also a mass grave. By the time everyone but the hardcore Bonoro supporters finally realize "oh poo poo this guy IS the worst" a lot of people will have died.

Apparently there's talk of sacking the Minister of Health because he's in favor of the quarantine measures:

https://twitter.com/albertocalmeida/status/1242778691727491073

It's just rumors, but yeah. Brazil might be hosed. Bolsonaro and his supporters are evoking Japan as an example of "hey we can return to normalcy now", without taking into account that Japan is definitely underreporting cases, already has a self-isolation culture in place and is also supposed to be on the "stable" part of the curve, while cases in Brazil are beating the Italian curve so far.

Ill believe when I see it

Well, after this:
https://twitter.com/GeorgMarques/status/1242797188562014215

If Mandetta dont resign, he is a total loving worm. But then again, if he inst one, whats he even doing in this government

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Bolsonaro already got hosed over by this heavily because he has been ditched by others, like, even the army told him to get hosed after paying no mind to the virus and generals decided to consult directly with national sanitation agency and the ministry of health

Congress is enjoying this opportunity to get him hosed and Maia knows he has the impeachment already if he wants it, Senate votes are in favor too

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

dead gay comedy forums posted:

Bolsonaro already got hosed over by this heavily because he has been ditched by others, like, even the army told him to get hosed after paying no mind to the virus and generals decided to consult directly with national sanitation agency and the ministry of health

Congress is enjoying this opportunity to get him hosed and Maia knows he has the impeachment already if he wants it, Senate votes are in favor too

Doria is going to be the next president lmao. He somehow managed to use the momentum and go from Bolsodoria to the only opposition voice that is boosted by the mainstream media and is now taking the initiative by having the other governors follow his lead and take the Covid crisis by their own hands. He definitely is going to be the anointed one of the oligarchy in 2022 and worse, this is going to give him the kind of legitimacy and popularity the right-centrists lacked.

Halser
Aug 24, 2016

frajaq posted:

I just dont want him to get away with this stupid bullshit lol

he absolutely will lmao

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Elias_Maluco posted:

Ill believe when I see it

Well, after this:
https://twitter.com/GeorgMarques/status/1242797188562014215

If Mandetta dont resign, he is a total loving worm. But then again, if he inst one, whats he even doing in this government

Like I expected, he didint, he changed his discourse to align with Bolsonaro, and remains on the job

https://twitter.com/Estadao/status/1242924216808325121

Vice president Mourão, however, made a public speech directly contradicting Bolsonaro and saying quarantine is still the official strategy, and Bolsonaro probably expressed himself badly

https://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2020/03/25/mourao-diz-que-posicao-do-governo-e-uma-so-isolamento-e-distanciamento-social.ghtml

Mourão speech gives credence to the rumors that the military wanst so happy with Bolsonaro speech

Global Disorder
Jan 9, 2020

Plutonis posted:

Doria is going to be the next president lmao. He somehow managed to use the momentum and go from Bolsodoria to the only opposition voice that is boosted by the mainstream media and is now taking the initiative by having the other governors follow his lead and take the Covid crisis by their own hands. He definitely is going to be the anointed one of the oligarchy in 2022 and worse, this is going to give him the kind of legitimacy and popularity the right-centrists lacked.

Agreed. The Brazilian left-wing is so prone to in-fighting and ostracized by the middle class and the media that Doria is the strongest opposition leader at the moment. Despite being aligned with Bolsonaro during the elections and not being too different from him, just less lunatic and more competent. He may be the lesser evil, but that's a really low bar.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer

Global Disorder posted:

Agreed. The Brazilian left-wing is so prone to in-fighting and ostracized by the middle class and the media that Doria is the strongest opposition leader at the moment. Despite being aligned with Bolsonaro during the elections and not being too different from him, just less lunatic and more competent. He may be the lesser evil, but that's a really low bar.

Ronaldo Caiado, a very old guard career politician and oligarch is also vying for the spotlight right now and is doing a lot of work to push back against Bolsonaro. Everyone I know hates him (myself included) but he's actually doing a leader's job in being strict and fast with containment measures. Depending on his results he might be a strong contender. It's obvious that he's being super opportunistic about it but given the current circumstances I can't complain.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
That's where we are: the old oligarchs and even the military is preferable to the nazi psychopath in power

In the north west, though, the left were not completely destroyed like in the south/southwest. Flávio Dino, for ex, might be a strong contender too

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
Wonder if Doria's orgy sextape becomes world news worthy when he's president.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Elias_Maluco posted:

Flávio Dino, for ex, might be a strong contender too

Dino certainly has the chops, but honestly I wouldn't push too fast for a national campaign things being as they are

A major critique that I have (among others) of PT and Lula (especially) was the total neglect to develop a left "roster" in the long term, thus ensuring a plurality of skilled persons across the country to carry on. Dino is far more important and useful as a governor to be carried into some eventual self-destructive campaign

of course, that is considering things as they were

introducing leftist thought to the military in a true neo-Castro/Chávez approach might be the greatest trojan horse ever, as I can totally see an upper middle class housewife defending workers' participation in companies after some lieutenant-colonel goes actually it is cool and good that workers have ownership of their labor

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
A Ciro gomes/Flavio Dino duo would not be terrible. Ciro is an opportunistic rear end in a top hat squish who never hopped onto a movement he didn't betray at his earliest convenience, but he's not dumb and has -some- notions of governance and development. And Dino has very decent and programs ideas while not directly connected to PT, the national scapegoat. Both come from the northeast, which can be an issue in winning the racist south, but Ciro has some penetration with middle classes across the board.

Sadly, it likely won't ever happen because Ciro is still ironclad in bashing the left to try and win old PSDB/PSL anti-Lula morons. Which means he's either 1- Dumb as gently caress, because those people are GONE. No one is getting them unless their last name is Bolsonaro, or; 2- He's really that sort of hateful loon.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
(Dumb double post)

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
Any chance that state governors are going to break up these planned Brazil Can't Stop marches with the water cannons and bombs? {assuming they're attract more than just 20 psychos)

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

hoiyes posted:

Any chance that state governors are going to break up these planned Brazil Can't Stop marches with the water cannons and bombs? {assuming they're attract more than just 20 psychos)

More than 20 here

https://twitter.com/delucca/status/1243331237089087489

And if you search facebook and etc, you will finda a lot more of there are being ornganized, and being shared buy thousands

We are a country in self destruction mode

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


postmodern cultural poisoning at its finest

having a horrible death through flooded lungs while I scream "no I am not owned, I am not owned"

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Image from the pro-corona carreata (I have no idea whats the word for that in english) in Porto Algre

https://twitter.com/EduPaganella/status/1243597790296641538

"I pay your salary"

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Elias_Maluco posted:

Image from the pro-corona carreata (I have no idea whats the word for that in english) in Porto Algre

https://twitter.com/EduPaganella/status/1243597790296641538

"I pay your salary"

I'm at a point where I don't even yell at them anymore, because it's not cathartic, it's just exhausting. HYPOTHETICALLY, busting a knee or five would make me feel better but y'know, trying to avoid crowds and all.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer
the worst part about it is that in a few weeks we won't even have the time to be smug about it

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


They might pay my salary but will they pay my funeral

EDIT: :barf:
https://twitter.com/jj_of_the_dead/status/1243375608232624129?s=19

Negostrike has issued a correction as of 22:03 on Mar 27, 2020

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous
:dehumanize:

https://twitter.com/agenciapublica/status/1243649801985671171

we're having mass graves aren't we

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
Everywhere people are reporting a lot of commerce reopened and a theres a lot more people on the streets

So yep, unless a miracle happens, we are probably going to

But also we are going to be fighting misinformation during this whole hell to even to prove anything is happening, that our friends and family are dying of it. Corpses are going to be pilling up on the streets and the fascists are going to keep repeating nothing is happening and that the media/governors are inflating the numbers and faking deaths, like the the great leader himself declared today and his masses are already echoing everywhere

This is gonna be bad, very bad

Elias_Maluco has issued a correction as of 22:58 on Mar 27, 2020

Global Disorder
Jan 9, 2020

Elias_Maluco posted:

Image from the pro-corona carreata (I have no idea whats the word for that in english) in Porto Algre

Carreata = motorcade.

I don't know about you guys, but this mess is becoming depressing rather than revolting. Anger at the fascists kept me going for a while, but now we're seriously talking about many more people dying than the 30,000 Bozo wanted a while ago.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


btw, we are considering the standard statistic models so far developed, which are from the northern hemisphere, which are going to be warmer soon and help diminish the numbers

we are going to our colder seasons now, which means corona + seasonal flu super express combo

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Global Disorder posted:

Carreata = motorcade.

I don't know about you guys, but this mess is becoming depressing rather than revolting. Anger at the fascists kept me going for a while, but now we're seriously talking about many more people dying than the 30,000 Bozo wanted a while ago.

I feel of mix of hate and sadness and fear, and fatigue too

We are going deep in this hole, and I can't see how we are going out. And all while they laught and lie and keep pushing us deeper and deeper. Is maddening

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bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous
More hopeful today, the STF keeps slapping down Bolso's bullshit and basically everybody who's not a hard bolsonarista thought the motorcades were dumb as gently caress

https://twitter.com/Mr_Machado/status/1244091722562449409

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