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Zugzwang posted:Is this the consensus explanation on why the WHO has been so poo poo about this? Much of what they've been saying fails on first principles. Even if cloth masks are lovely and only work 20% as well as surgical/N95 masks (they work a lot better than 20% btw), that's not nothing when dealing with something this infectious. To work well cloth masks need to be cleaned regularly. Like if you stop for food and stuff the mask in your pocket while you eat and then put it back on and then get home and put it in your pocket and then put it back on when you leave to go by milk etc., any contamination on the mask is gonna get all over your hands and your face. So probably not great at protecting you. It will still help protect others from you though. If you wanted to get that 20% protection you'd need to be a tiny bit clever and careful about it. Like have a ziplock bag of clean masks and a seperate ziplock of unsafe masks. Any time you take a mask off for any reason it goes in the hot bag, never take a mask off and put that same mask back on. You also need to remove masks properly so you don't contaminate your hands and face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrvFrH_npQI
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LionArcher posted:No. And I’m a drat good uncle. And I’m with my current partner because she’s drat certain she doesn’t want kids. (And if she has them it could kill her so she really won’t!) We need not to de-rail. I was part of it over love (as we all were). Backseat mod.
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Facebook Aunt posted:To work well cloth masks need to be cleaned regularly. Like if you stop for food and stuff the mask in your pocket while you eat and then put it back on and then get home and put it in your pocket and then put it back on when you leave to go by milk etc., any contamination on the mask is gonna get all over your hands and your face. So probably not great at protecting you. It will still help protect others from you though. The "protect from you" thing is really the biggest point, given the asymptomatic transmission of this thing. I'd love to be able to say "I feel fine, I don't need a mask," but that's simply wrong.
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Zugzwang posted:These are fair points. If you only go out 2 or 3x week for essentials (I'm not going out that much), you can keep multiple masks on hand. Wear one per trip, take it off when you get home, don't wear it again for a while (days? a week? certainly not right away). Holding your breath has worked in the hospital for me. I am a computer smasher and I don't use proper PPE sometimes to fix something simple. RIP ME. You will never hear from me again because I kept the SA password.
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Funk In Shoe posted:I really do not feel miserable and exhausted. My life is richer and better with these kids than I would've ever thought possible. I am, however, extremely of the opinion that having small kids is hell I'm baby crazy (wife too) and work in teaching so man, I love kid chaos. I want very badly my own. But... I want to skip to age 5. I do not want nor look forward to anything before that. My wife is insanely experienced with that area thankfully.
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Grape posted:I'm baby crazy (wife too) and work in teaching so man, I love kid chaos. I want very badly my own. A girl at 12 ain't nothin to be hosed wit.
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drunkb posted:What is the population there. I genuinely don't know. 60.5M or so
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The wife & I were planning our first recombinant human, but now I'm thinking that anything that would conceivably require us to have anything to do with hospitals is a Bad Idea for a while. Brother-in-law and his wife are still trying though. 
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Please don't cough on your cat. https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/first-known-cat-infected-with-coronavirus-reported-in-belgium/ quote:“The cat had diarrhea, kept vomiting and had breathing difficulties. The researchers found the virus in the cat’s feces,” professor Steven Van Gucht said Friday, according to the outlet. 
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drunkb posted:What is the population there. I genuinely don't know. About 60.3 million. USA has just over 5 times that and also trump is in charge.
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My 21 year old lives in an suburb of Milwaukee. I spoke with her this morning and they are holed up.
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sweet thursday posted:My wife has used my computer to work from home for one (1) week and she's managed to gently caress up one (1) computer. Like files gone or corrupted hosed up or "well the IRS sent an email and I had to click the link or they'd arrest me" hosed up.
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Zugzwang posted:Is this the consensus explanation on why the WHO has been so poo poo about this? Much of what they've been saying fails on first principles. Even if cloth masks are lovely and only work 20% as well as surgical/N95 masks (they work a lot better than 20% btw), that's not nothing when dealing with something this infectious. I can't think of any other reason. Taiwan is completely cut out by the WHO, is not even allowed to attend in observer capacity, and disease cases in Taiwan are officially listed under 'China'. The WHO has completely caved to the PRC. Didn't they have a press conference a while back where they spent the first couple of minutes praising China's rapid 5G rollout as very helpful in fighting the epidemic?
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drunkb posted:A girl at 12 ain't nothin to be hosed wit. I just got done teaching like half a year of 7th grade for a temp gig, and it's like my favorite grade I've taught so far by a landslide. Jesus gently caress I miss those kids. Don't get me wrong! Middle schoolers are crazy gremlins of all sorts of various types. But poo poo man. I loved working with them so much. In education what I've found is just about all teachers will treat middle school like Mordor, the dark land they dare not tread... EXCEPT for a certain subset who the rest regard as crazy, who enjoy the heck out of it. I am in that subset.
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Grape posted:I just got done teaching like half a year of 7th grade for a temp gig, and it's like my favorite grade I've taught so far by a landslide. Jesus gently caress I miss those kids. I moved to a new area and someone stole my daughter's shoes. I asked if she knew who did it. She said yes. I told her to hit that bitch in the face with everything you have and I will leave work. She did and I did. She never hit a person the face before. Edit because I high-5'd in the principles office. She thought she was in trouble in tears until I sat down and high fived her. That was a game changer for her. drunkb fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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Burt Sexual posted:Wtf does that have to do with the rona? Its a lesson. If someone has something that belongs to you (like tp) then use violence to get it
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We are finished. Haven't you heard? They nuked us all to make sure.
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Burt Sexual posted:Wtf does that have to do with the rona? Stress
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Just passed 30k deaths. https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1243969253239291904
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Colonel Cancer posted:But clearly masks do not help unless you are a trained healthcare professional! They just make you relax and start making bad decisions while thinking that you are immune to their outcomes, just like seatbelts and bicycle helmets! Your seatbelt and bicycle helmet and protects me, my seatbelt and bicycle helmet and protects you. E: Don't share PPE.
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Zugzwang posted:Is this the consensus explanation on why the WHO has been so poo poo about this? They were trying to cover up the fact this was already out of control with human-to-human transmission at the start of the year. The WHO has been a joke for years.
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Burt Sexual posted:Wtf does that have to do with the rona? Yeah, for some reason a bunch of people got confused and thought we were ranting about parenting in general, when we are ranting about parenting during Covid isolation.
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To be fair a lot of adults are finding it hard to be quarantined with other adults without a break. One of my normally sunny and hyper-unflappable coworkers sounds frazzled on the phone nowadays after being stuck in a small apartment 24/7 her kids, who are like 4 and 7 or some poo poo.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Yeah, for some reason a bunch of people got confused and thought we were ranting about parenting in general, when we are ranting about parenting during Covid isolation. I see
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The mortality rate for patients put in intensive care after being infected with Covid-19 is running at close to 50%, a report has revealed."The Guardian" posted:Data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) showed that of 165 patients treated in critical care in England, Wales and Northern Ireland since the end of February, 79 died, while 86 survived and were discharged. The figures were taken from an audit of 775 people who have been or are in critical care with the disease, across 285 intensive care units. The remaining 610 patients continue to receive intensive care. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/28/coronavirus-intensive-care-uk-patients-50-per-cent-survival-rate The article also mentions that being male and being fat are significant factors in ending up in intensive care with this virus, so something something goons, I guess!
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Pistol_Pete posted:The article also mentions that being male and being fat are significant factors in ending up in intensive care with this virus
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Don't worry, it's all in our heads. edit: wait is this guy racist?
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Bleusilences posted:Don't worry, it's all in our heads. I was joking because people questioning China, on anything to do with this including magically destroying the virus at 80,000 cases, are being called Sinophobic and Racist.
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Bleusilences posted:Don't worry, it's all in our heads. No, not looking at his twitter. Standard reporter
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Pistol_Pete posted:The mortality rate for patients put in intensive care after being infected with Covid-19 is running at close to 50%, a report has revealed. There is a very obvious flaw in the methodology of those stats.
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coronavirus posted:There is a very obvious flaw in the methodology of those stats. And what would that be?
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A number of people in Denmark have started talking about it being a problem that our respirator/intensive care capacity is only at 10% of the (government-being-optimistic) maximum capacity. Since our health officials are stating that almost everyone eventually needs to be infected, there are voices demanding loosening of the shutdown measures, so that more public can get infected! It's insane. Media is full of optimistic experts saying that this epidemic really isn't that bad, that our superior Danish behavior has create a manageable spread of the disease, and that for the sake of the economy we need to open up society soon. It's a disgusting mix of "It's just the flu bro", borderline-supremacist exceptionalism, economic idiocy and reckless optimism. It's legitimately being presented by politicians as an issue of deciding what the acceptable cost is to give a handful of elderly a few years more. There's a completely rejection of trying to isolate outbreak and stop the spread. Perhaps that's the realistic outlook - I can accept that, even if I think it's too early to assume such things. What I cannot accept is the refusal to slow down the spread by all means necessary, until we have at least tried getting this under control, improved our ability to treat infection and just generally know more about what we're dealing with. These idiots think that if we simply re-opened society, nothing much would happen other than a few thousands old people with pre-existing conditions dying early. I'm worried they'll loosen the grip prematurely and act all surprised if everything goes to hell - probably claiming that it was inevitable, and not at all something we could influence. Ugh. Stupid populists.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/politics/trump-new-york-new-jersey-quarantine-coronavirus/index.html UBISoft is releasing their new Division DLC very soon. quote:(CNN)President Donald Trump said Saturday that he's considering a short-term quarantine of "hot spots" in parts of the tri-state area — New York, New Jersey and Connecticut — where cases of coronavirus continue to rise.
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