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What's the worst match Bret has ever had that was his fault and not the opponent's?
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Mar 28, 2020 13:49
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The Backlund match at Wrestlemania 11? Bret considers it his worst match. I haven't seen it in years so I can't comment on who's "fault" it was.
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Mar 28, 2020 14:01
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What's the worst match Bret has ever had that was his fault and not the opponent's? I'm sure if you went back to his WCW run you could find some real stinkers where Bret clearly didn't give a poo poo. That said I would say his worst match was with The Miz from I want to say 2010. Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:The Backlund match at Wrestlemania 11? Bret considers it his worst match. I haven't seen it in years so I can't comment on who's "fault" it was. I always put the blame on Piper being a poo poo guest referee and the "I Quit" gimmick.
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Mar 28, 2020 14:34
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Bret discussion made me go back to watch Bret vs Austin at WM13 because it's never a bad time to watch that and I noticed this guy petting Bret and then Shamrock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxowP-K1t4M&t=21s
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Mar 28, 2020 15:11
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How the hell did Hercules never hit anyone when swinging that chain? Or accidentally yeet it into the crowd?
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Mar 28, 2020 15:15
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Bret really should not have been anywhere near the ring in 2010. Booking him in matches was a monumentally terrible idea because he couldn't, well, have a match due to his condition.
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Mar 28, 2020 15:16
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Yeah, I'm willing to say that any matches Bret had after his retirement don't count because they're not really matches in the same way. Another question: how the hell did people like Goldust and Stardust wrestle in those body suits without dying from heat and sweat?
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Mar 29, 2020 01:08
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Another question: how the hell did people like Goldust and Stardust wrestle in those body suits without dying from heat and sweat? I assume the same tricks that Disney World mascots use to survive Florida summers -- well-breathing fabric, and like 20 pounds of baby powder before they go out there. Benne fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Mar 29, 2020 |
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Mar 29, 2020 04:14
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Doc M posted:Bret really should not have been anywhere near the ring in 2010. Booking him in matches was a monumentally terrible idea because he couldn't, well, have a match due to his condition. https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1094085953327714304
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Mar 29, 2020 07:46
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Now we know the many and varied occasions where WWE has hosed up on a wrestler that was supposedly was fool-proof and unfuckupable. But has there been an instance of the opposite? Where WWE took someone who everybody thought was a charismaless lunk with no wrestling skill, and turned them into someone fun to watch. Also given WCW also wasted multiple people, did they ever do the opposite.
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Mar 29, 2020 08:21
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BrigadierSensible posted:Now we know the many and varied occasions where WWE has hosed up on a wrestler that was supposedly was fool-proof and unfuckupable. Ryback, until they and he both hosed it up. Mark Henry, once they finally booked him properly.
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Mar 29, 2020 09:50
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BrigadierSensible posted:Now we know the many and varied occasions where WWE has hosed up on a wrestler that was supposedly was fool-proof and unfuckupable. batista
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Mar 29, 2020 09:52
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OFFICER LIGER posted:batista Was going to say Batista too. As for WCW I'd say they managed to get Bryan Clark really over as Wrath when he was going on quite a win streak until he was fed to Kevin Nash as part of the build for the Goldberg Starrcade match. I guess he got some of that heat back as part of Kronik in 2000 but it's late era WCW so it doesn't really matter. I finally signed up for NJPW World during the last Wrestle Kingdom and going through the archives Shingo Takagi has quickly become one of my favorites especially after watching the 2019 Best of the Super Juniors. My question is what are some of Shingo's best matches outside of NJPW?
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Mar 29, 2020 14:49
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Alexa Bliss was a nobody in NXT who became a star on the main roster.
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Mar 29, 2020 16:48
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TTBF posted:Alexa Bliss was a nobody in NXT who became a star on the main roster.
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Mar 29, 2020 17:02
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jesus WEP posted:nope, she was by far the most over part of Blake and Murphy Thats not saying much though. And really when she came up no ones was clamoring for it but drat she ran with the ball and became a star.
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Mar 29, 2020 17:28
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davidbix posted:I think they expected him to be able to have a perfectly acceptable story-heavy shortcuts match until Lloyds of London insisted that literally nobody could do anything to him.
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Mar 29, 2020 17:34
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BrigadierSensible posted:Now we know the many and varied occasions where WWE has hosed up on a wrestler that was supposedly was fool-proof and unfuckupable. Gillberg?
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Mar 29, 2020 21:30
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BrigadierSensible posted:Now we know the many and varied occasions where WWE has hosed up on a wrestler that was supposedly was fool-proof and unfuckupable. I'd nominate Kane, given his previous gimmicks.
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Mar 29, 2020 21:42
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Nobody gave a poo poo about Alexander Rusev in NXT, then he went to the main roster and suddenly found his charisma
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Mar 29, 2020 21:43
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has there ever been a big/important match where the wrestler who was meant to go over got hurt and the other one had to win instead? I'm not talking like random Raw matches but title matches or PPV main events etc feels like I'm missing a really famous one but it won't come to mind
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Mar 29, 2020 21:55
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Julio Cruz posted:has there ever been a big/important match where the wrestler who was meant to go over got hurt and the other one had to win instead? I'm not talking like random Raw matches but title matches or PPV main events etc Most of the time they just rush to the finish, like when Owen broke Austin's neck and basically had to pin himself. Even with a mid-match injury, most wrestlers/bookers would rather do the planned finish and then figure it out later.
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Mar 29, 2020 22:00
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Benne posted:Nobody gave a poo poo about Alexander Rusev in NXT, then he went to the main roster and suddenly found his charisma Maybe they'll let him do poo poo when he ends up on AEW
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Mar 29, 2020 22:03
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Julio Cruz posted:has there ever been a big/important match where the wrestler who was meant to go over got hurt and the other one had to win instead? I'm not talking like random Raw matches but title matches or PPV main events etc toni storm won a top belt in stardom because mayu broke her arm in like the first minute of their big match
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Mar 29, 2020 22:16
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I assume that Yuna Manase was not meant to win the TJPW International title but they audibled to it when Natsumi Maki tore her knee to shreds.
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Mar 29, 2020 23:38
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Julio Cruz posted:feels like I'm missing a really famous one but it won't come to mind
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Mar 29, 2020 23:40
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Pretty sure Sting was winning anyway
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Mar 29, 2020 23:45
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Julio Cruz posted:has there ever been a big/important match where the wrestler who was meant to go over got hurt and the other one had to win instead? I'm not talking like random Raw matches but title matches or PPV main events etc I think there was a WCW PPV where Rick Martel was supposed to go over Booker T and then Perry Saturn in a gauntlet match for the WCW TV Title but suffered a career ending knee injury partway through the first match so they had Booker T win both matches.
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Mar 29, 2020 23:47
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BrigadierSensible posted:Now we know the many and varied occasions where WWE has hosed up on a wrestler that was supposedly was fool-proof and unfuckupable. It's not exactly what you're asking, but I'm not sure anyone who saw the promo videos for the New Day would have expected them to last six weeks, but here we are.
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Mar 30, 2020 00:04
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Resident Idiot posted:It's not exactly what you're asking, but I'm not sure anyone who saw the promo videos for the New Day would have expected them to last six weeks, but here we are. God, yeah. The original vignettes that went up for them were so terrible in every way possible, I was sure they were all doomed from the word go.
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Mar 30, 2020 00:10
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Julio Cruz posted:has there ever been a big/important match where the wrestler who was meant to go over got hurt and the other one had to win instead? I'm not talking like random Raw matches but title matches or PPV main events etc Hogan won the IWGP title because of this, Inoki broke his leg and I guess titles change hands by DQ there, or did then
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Mar 30, 2020 00:20
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bartok posted:I think there was a WCW PPV where Rick Martel was supposed to go over Booker T and then Perry Saturn in a gauntlet match for the WCW TV Title but suffered a career ending knee injury partway through the first match so they had Booker T win both matches. Yeah, just before Booker and Benoit started trading the TV title around and got the Best of Seven series Booker was trading the belt with Martel and Saturn. He won the belt and was defending in a gauntlet with Booker and Saturn that he was supposed to win, but he got hurt and Booker and Saturn had to improv the second match on the fly.
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Mar 30, 2020 00:28
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Benne posted:Nobody gave a poo poo about Alexander Rusev in NXT, then he went to the main roster and suddenly found his charisma what, that's ridiculous, rusev had everything in NXT. no shoes, a big plank of wood, a crotchflap, everything!
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Mar 30, 2020 01:45
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A first name.
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Mar 30, 2020 01:49
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Resident Idiot posted:It's not exactly what you're asking, but I'm not sure anyone who saw the promo videos for the New Day would have expected them to last six weeks, but here we are. ShootaBoy posted:God, yeah. The original vignettes that went up for them were so terrible in every way possible, I was sure they were all doomed from the word go. Who could have imagined that the further they got from Vinces 'vision', the better they got?
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Mar 30, 2020 02:19
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Which segment is this sample from? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsFUC5ne1Bo&t=996s 16:36 if it doesn't sync up.
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Mar 30, 2020 02:57
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Has anyone ever figured out who Fake Mike Tenay is?
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Mar 30, 2020 07:33
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Can the ”you people” kind of promo be traced to anyone in particular who’d have popularized it?
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Mar 30, 2020 12:42
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The Rock's first heel turn? Or maybe Bret's.
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So of all the WWE guys who are constantly “on the verge of leaving” like Rusev, Sasha, The Revival, etc., who has the highest ceiling if they bounce to, say, AEW or NJPW? I feel like I always see people here and otherwise saying “oh man, just wait until the Revival show up in AEW, they’ll be AMAZING!” Which might be true, but after an initial push of “oh poo poo, these dudes are here!,” do they have a ceiling of “another tag team” or are they total diamonds in the rough that will explode in popularity/talent (similar to Juice Robinson going from a nobody CJ Parker to his moderate upper-midcard success in NJPW now)? Or, if Sasha goes to AEW, do you see her as a potential new ace for the Women’s Division, or nah?
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