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orcane posted:In old GTA games you could get creative in missions like, get there in a helicopter (possibly an armed one) and use it to bypass some gauntlet or ambush, or to quickly track down a fleeing enemy. Or park a trash truck in a strategic position so the enemies can't escape after the first cutscene. Or bring a fast or sturdy car if you expect or know you'll be doing a specific kind of chase soon. Or the aforementioned example of planting explosive charges in certain places to blow up enemies. Good post. Thank you. It makes me think of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvJPKOLDSos
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Those posts came out sounding too harsh over an extremely silly thing, my bad  It was just a very curious thing to read but I get it if it's still your favorite.
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DrNutt posted:I have a duplicate code for Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen from the Capcom bundle if anyone wants it. I've been playing the poo poo out of it since I am currently stuck in my house, and it's a great game. Highly recommend snagging up this copy if you want to play the Saints Row 2 of Dark Souls'.
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John Murdoch posted:*raises hand* With my tolerance for weird, jank, and RPGs in general being unpredictable I've always been worried I'd bounce straight of it, hence why I don't own it. But I've still always been curious what all the fuss is about. http://steamcommunity.com/id/anactualcatirl As I cannot send you a PM, go ahead and shoot me a friend request on Steam and I'll send the code your way. Plus you will be able to enlist my higher level pawn for free (those words will make more sense eventually, I promise). Cardiovorax posted:Very interested, if you still have it. It's the one thing in that bundle I really wanted, but I don't really have any use for duplicate keys of everything else. John Murdoch has first dibs, but if they change their mind I'd be happy to send it your way.
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Thank ye. 
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e: wrong thread. how bout them steams?
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My main complaint with GTA5 is that pirating it would save me like 40GB in data ill never use since it's MP content.
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Mar 29, 2020 20:56
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punk rebel ecks posted:Good post. Thank you. Don't really wanna watch that video again, but IIRC I came away completely disagreeing with his premise. It's not that Rockstar's game design is outdated, because it's very modern - tightly controlled, focused on cinematic flash over mechanical systems, and primarily intended to shepherd players into microtransactions.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Good post. Thank you. He is absolutely correct about the absurd scripting abuses in Rockstar game design and how it diverged from its early PS2 sandboxes. That you used to be allowed to prepare for missions ahead of time using the current environment around you and sometimes large swaths of the city, gets thrown out in exchange for teleporting you to some area (map emptied of potential rear end in a top hat physics) and giving you exactly what you are allowed to use in fixed shooting galleries and special setpieces to spice things up. It shouldn't be so hostile to thinking outside the box for its genre. Sandboxes are for messing around and by extension, so should the design of missions. It wouldn't be such a big problem if you applied this inflexible system to something like platformers or corridor shooters. Better devs provide flexible design in their games and Rockstar is easily showing its age.
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Very small pro-tip but what's a steam thread for if not saving a couple bucks? Mount & Blade II is releasing into EA on March 31st, and there's going to be $5 off the purchase price for anyone who owns a previous M&B game. If you don't already own one, the original is $2 on Humble right now saving you a sweet $3
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Mozi posted:it's minesweeper, yes. You can't expect to win most of the time.
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goferchan posted:Mount & Blade II is releasing into EA on March 31st Holy shiiiiiit 
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I want to be hype, but from what has been seen of the game so far in the MP beta stuff, it's not gonna be good. I'm almost certain that it's literally just going to be Warband again, like exactly, no real improvements to show for 10 years of work.
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K8.0 posted:Don't really wanna watch that video again, but IIRC I came away completely disagreeing with his premise. It's not that Rockstar's game design is outdated, because it's very modern - tightly controlled, focused on cinematic flash over mechanical systems, and primarily intended to shepherd players into microtransactions. Yeah him calling it outdated is silly, a lot of his complaints aren't really unreasonable opinions for him to hold but he has a unsophisticated understanding of game design.(I get that he is a comedy youtube person) Ironically enough a not uncommon complaint you see about BotW is that it essentially being a big toybox makes it seems shallow because it's hard to make truly difficult gameplay in the face of infinite choice and there is a lack of cinematic moments outside of a handful of cutscenes.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Honestly GTA4 is a better sandbox. The A.I. in general is, I dunno, more believable to me. The cops seem to behave more 'realistically', the chases are more interesting. GTA4 has this whole behavioural simulation thing wired into a complex physics engine and destructible envrionment, so a lot of stuff can just happen and it feels believable. People respond in realistic ways - you can jack a car by pointing your gun at the driver (although they might panic and try to speed off), you can shoot guns out of people's hands, you can start a fight by punching someone and then dodging their punch so they hit someone else. They'll do stuff on their own too, so you get all these non-scripted scenes playing out randomly. You can get away with a lot of stuff if the cops don't see it, and even if they do it'll take a lot for them to pull a gun on you You can get creative with it as well - if you need a cop car, call 911 on your phone, punch someone before they get there, and when they arrive they'll see that person "attacking" you (assuming they didn't run off) and arrest them, giving you time to yoink the patrol car. It just feels pretty sandboxy in a good way 
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Hub Cat posted:Ironically enough a not uncommon complaint you see about BotW is that it essentially being a big toybox makes it seems shallow because it's hard to make truly difficult gameplay in the face of infinite choice and there is a lack of cinematic moments outside of a handful of cutscenes.
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Hub Cat posted:Yeah him calling it outdated is silly, a lot of his complaints aren't really unreasonable opinions for him to hold but he has a unsophisticated understanding of game design.(I get that he is a comedy youtube person) Zelda has never been known for having difficult gameplay. Difficult /= Deep.
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Yeah, My Time at Portia has been pretty good so far after 4 hours. Feels like a faster Stardew in some ways.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Zelda has never been known for having difficult gameplay. Difficult /= Deep. That's gotta be coming from people who've never played the 8-bit games.
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Been playing Resident Evil Revelations 2 split/screen with a buddy of mine, from the Humble Bundle Capcom Bundle. It's a ton of fun, I highly recommend it. I've only dipped into the Raid Mode a lil bit but it seems to be, what if Mercenaries was also an RPG? Zombies have HP and levels, guns have levels, theres random loot and poo poo. It's pretty good so far, but its been piss easy at the beginning. I imagine it gets way harder shortly. The maps seem to be vaguely reminiscent of areas from past games. The moment to moment gameplay feels very Mercenaries. Right now I'm playing Hunk and my buddy is playing Lady Hunk which is the same outfit except miniskirt.
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goferchan posted:Very small pro-tip but what's a steam thread for if not saving a couple bucks? Mount & Blade II is releasing into EA on March 31st, and there's going to be $5 off the purchase price for anyone who owns a previous M&B game. If you don't already own one, the original is $2 on Humble right now saving you a sweet $3 FWIW they moved the release up a day. It launches in...10 1/2 hours, I think.
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baka kaba posted:GTA4 has this whole behavioural simulation thing wired into a complex physics engine and destructible envrionment, so a lot of stuff can just happen and it feels believable. People respond in realistic ways - you can jack a car by pointing your gun at the driver (although they might panic and try to speed off), you can shoot guns out of people's hands, you can start a fight by punching someone and then dodging their punch so they hit someone else. They'll do stuff on their own too, so you get all these non-scripted scenes playing out randomly. You can get away with a lot of stuff if the cops don't see it, and even if they do it'll take a lot for them to pull a gun on you Yeah I wish GTAV had all that stuff because GTAIV is pretty much 100% better as a slapping groceries/coffee/phones out of people's hands and shoving them down stairs simulator.
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ultrafilter posted:That's gotta be coming from people who've never played the 8-bit games. I recall Zelda 2 being difficult but not Zelda 1. Regardless, that's the first two incarnations in an over 30 year franchise.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Zelda has never been known for having difficult gameplay. Difficult /= Deep. My point isn't Zelda is too easy and therefore bad(I actually really like BotW for what it's worth but I've always been a sim weirdo), it's that for at least some subset of people his reasons for saying Red Dead=bad and Zelda=good are their reasons for saying Zelda=bad and Red Dead=good(I don't care if this exact specific Venn Diagram actually exists there's people that complain about these things in Zelda is all I'm saying. I'm pretty sure he actually likes RDR2 in spite of all that anyway). I'm not even saying Zelda is too easy either, I'm saying that plopping down toys and saying "Go Nuts!" can lead to issues, that too much choice can actually be a problem in designing fun engaging gameplay for players. (I guess I shouldn't have said difficult when engaging is more clear but w/e) I actually agree with a lot of his complaints about RDR2 and think it's a fun but deeply flawed game, I just disagree with the underlying premise of it being outdated. Also like that other guy said Zelda 1 and 2 are hard. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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He doesn't even talk about it being "outdated" much, if anything he chose a misleading title for the video.
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Oh also he has dumb opinions about Mario
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Hub Cat posted:My point isn't Zelda is too easy and therefore bad(I actually really like BotW for what it's worth but I've always been a sim weirdo), it's that for at least some subset of people his reasons for saying Red Dead=bad and Zelda=good are their reasons for saying Zelda=bad and Red Dead=good(I don't care if this exact specific Venn Diagram actually exists there's people that complain about these things in Zelda is all I'm saying. I'm pretty sure he actually likes RDR2 in spite of all that anyway). I'm not even saying Zelda is too easy either, I'm saying that plopping down toys and saying "Go Nuts!" can lead to issues, that too much choice can actually be a problem in designing fun engaging gameplay for players. (I guess I shouldn't have said difficult when engaging is more clear but w/e) To be fair, it's because the "here are you toys and play" style of gameplay is becoming more and more rare in the AAA space. There's a reason why BOTW was so refreshing that other open-world games rarely are. It's fine to enjoy more of a scripted style gameplay for better presentation and difficulty, but those are so much more common than open ended type games. Hub Cat posted:Oh also he has dumb opinions about Mario It can't be worse than this literal 2 hour video of a guy complaining that Super Mario Odyssey isn't literally Super Mario 64-2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYJx5xt2cB0
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Well, they call them "sandboxes" for a reason. It's the difference between toys and games: one is meant for making your own fun, the other is a structured experience with rules and victory conditions. I think a big part of why real sandbox games keep getting less popular is that even the most structured AAA game still offers you a lot of freedom these days, enough that the structure doesn't feel stifling, but also without that sense of "I really have no idea what to do now" that tends to plague the most open games.
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explosivo posted:Holy shiiiiiit It won't anymore, they changed the date. It's out in less than ten hours from this post.
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I don’t currently have GTAV installed but can you start fights with random NPCs by simply staring at them and/or following them around and invading their personal space? That was something that was bizarrely entertaining in GTA IV. I used to play a little game where I would start with no weapons, and then try to goad a random person into attacking me, and then use their weapons to get more weapons and see how far I could get without buying anything.
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baka kaba posted:oh I dunno then - it doesn't take long to load, you should hear the intro logo videos and all that after a few seconds, if you can't hear anything it's probably stuck - I'd check task manager to see if it's even running, and definitely try the Verify Game Files thing This is from a ways back but the issue ended up being a botched video driver installation! I'm dumb, prey is working fine now. punk rebel ecks posted:Good post. Thank you. I haven't played RDR2 but my impression of GTAV was that they gave us this big beautiful world but was really not all that interested in it. They just wanted to recreate their highly scripted recreation of several movies. Witcher 3 managed to make a world with more depth. Lord Lambeth fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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punk rebel ecks posted:It can't be worse than this literal 2 hour video of a guy complaining that Super Mario Odyssey isn't literally Super Mario 64-2.  Why is this dude making an extended comparison of Nioh and Dark Souls in this Mario video?? Is there really over an hour of him nitpicking all the individual types of moons when his point could have been summed up with a couple minutes of talking and some candid clips of worst offenders?(I skipped through and it kept going and going) Does he have much to actually say beyond "I found this content tedious and/or not fun to me"? (I'm not watching the whole thing to find out) This guy needs an editor. Odyssey is like a perfect example of a game that you beat and then play the extra content till you get bored and move on. Edit:Caught the after credits stinger thing before closing the video and that's such a bitter and weird way to think about a game that's a huge love letter to Mario fans. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Scalding Coffee posted:How dare you install mods in MY CAREFULLY CRAFTED GAME?! - Rockstar devs
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Wait wtf Mount and Blade II will be out (early access) in less than ten hours and yet there is no buy button yet???? What the gently caress I want to mash that bad boy and start downloading.
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Finished Astrologaster! It was a fun time the whole way through. If you're fretting about the license though don't, it doesn't matter. Oxxidation posted:the first nier's gameplay is better Yes
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He's also very patronizing about it to. It's his most hated video and he's very "*sigh* Nintendo fans..." about it. I also enjoyed how he complained how the levels were unoriginal like him complaining about how the Sand Kingdom is just a common sand level. Yes, the level that is about a world of Day of the Dead skeletons who live right by a pyramid that is an alien spaceship is unoriginal... Oxxidation posted:the first nier's gameplay is better I feel that I'm one of two people who didn't like Nier: Automata.
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So I bought Shadow of War and started playing it and wow it is definitely Shadow of More-dor. Even the opening felt like I was just transitioning into an expansion that just happened to have a brief refresher tutorial at the start of it. The one thing I struggled with is how spongy the regular orcs are on Nemesis - unless that's just literally how much HP they always have and I need to get better levelled weapons. Just killing a single orc took ages without an execution and now you can't do executions as often and have to talent in ground ones to make them fast enough to do in the middle of the inevitable packs of orcs attacking you. I definitely avoid combat more now than I did in the first one. Enjoyed the online nemesis missions as just bite-sized predator missions - three of the ones I fought had multiple kills despite having a fatal weakness to just being shot in the face across from the entire map?? Come on guys. The nemesis orcs are insanely wordy now and sound a little less "orky" than I remember, but I can forgive that based on the one time I was about to get killed by an orc and a Gondorian just appears out of nowhere to save my rear end, which I had no idea was a thing that could happen, and as I waved goodbye to him and jumped over a ledge all of a sudden I get tackled from behind by a new nemesis who then taunted me to my face about how pathetic it was I needed help. 
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Ghostlight posted:So I bought Shadow of War and started playing it and wow it is definitely Shadow of More-dor. Even the opening felt like I was just transitioning into an expansion that just happened to have a brief refresher tutorial at the start of it. The difficulties in that game are kind of trash, to be honest. Normal is kind of easy, Nemesis is too spongy, Gravewalker is silly and Brutal is much faster but it also leaves you very vulnerable to one hit kills. I'd probably stick to normal to be honest.
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Det_no posted:The difficulties in that game are kind of trash, to be honest. Normal is kind of easy, Nemesis is too spongy, Gravewalker is silly and Brutal is much faster but it also leaves you very vulnerable to one hit kills. I'd probably stick to normal to be honest. Also your character is maxed out by halfway through the game since most of the upgrade perks are sidegrades and you can only choose one of them to be active at a time. Shadow of Mordor was a much better game.
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The Joe Man posted:I played on Nemesis and lost interest around the halfway point out of boredom. It wasn't brutally hard but it takes FOREVER to take down captains after you're in the level 30 range because they're immune to everything. You could play for over an hour taking down a fort and if you gently caress up just once and die, you've gained literally nothing and wasted that entire hour (and potentially made the opposition even stronger). I thought I was near the end of Shadow of War since I was on (what I thought was?) the last of the maps (the one that's very fire-themed) and had most of the unlocks, then I looked at a walkthrough and saw that I was only halfway through the plot levels??? That game needed to be chopped to 2/3rds its length or have a more interesting gameplay cycle, because those fortress sieges are teeeedious affairs.
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