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Here's a source that isn't run by climate-change-denying, intelligent design proponents: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/travel-costs-outstrips-disease-budget-170522101226365.htmlquote:The WHO, which employs 7,000 people worldwide, said that less than half of its travel costs were on its staff.
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Apologies for not keeping track of every US rag with an agenda. Is there a list of Yellow Journalism sites I can avoid since Google loves to put them near the top? <gets banned by Genesplicer for racism>
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Blistex posted:<gets banned by Genesplicer for racism> lol
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I hadn't heard of the Washington Examiner before so I looked it up and Wikipedia says it's owned by this rear end in a top hat
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Yeah I was about to say that the Examiner is extremely conservative and not a good source.
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Mar 28, 2020 17:53
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Alan Smithee posted:https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1243887606569590784?s=20 Also holy loving poo poo this is a goddamn disgrace What the gently caress WHO
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Fojar38 posted:Yeah I was about to say that the Examiner is extremely conservative and not a good source. I think we can all agree that the WHO is an organization who (lol) puts their donors needs before . . . I don't know. . . WORLD HEALTH! GotLag posted:I hadn't heard of the Washington Examiner before so I looked it up and Wikipedia says it's owned by this rear end in a top hat What a lovely man. Is there a setting in Google so news results exclude certain papers? I would love to stop seeing, "The National Interest" and other clickbait/lovely papers not show up. And ones that require a subscription. Blistex fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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Yeah what's unfortunate is that apparently "You know China is kind of poo poo and the WHO is loving up because of it" has become a partisan topic so it's mostly right-wing trash sources having their broken clock moments talking about it right now.
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it really sucks when you're critical of china and also not a lunatic far-right guy because a lot of people lump those together now thanks to trump&friends having a broken clock moment wrt calling out china (in the dumbest and most self defeating ways)
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Mar 28, 2020 18:46
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Holy hell that "I want to get treated in China" dude interview is unreal.
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Grand Fromage posted:holy gently caress lol oohhboy posted:Holy hell that "I want to get treated in China" dude interview is unreal.
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For alot of people this is the first time they've been hearing about China a whole lot in recent memory and most of it is Trump dog-whistling and trying to cover his own rear end, so like everything else to do with the man legitimate criticism of the CCP in this crisis has been poisoned by his proximity to it and the go-to assumption for most people is that you're getting marching orders from right-wing media if you suggest anything negative about China. Goddammit gently caress Trump and the GOP so hard for making it this easy for PRC propaganda to stick.
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I think it was someone theorizing in this thread was spot on a month or so ago (Trump Time Dilation Syndrome has hosed up my brain, it feels like it was a millennia) when he was heavily referring to it as the “China Flu.” He is such a primitive moron but somehow his lizard brain is incredibly adept at manipulating the media - by calling it China Flu, he could “trigger the libs” and fire up his base, while getting the media to focus their outrage on that, instead of his bluster, ignorance, and administration’s incompetence that let this get out of control in the US. Now he doesn’t want this to hurt “his” economy and the GOP Death Cult is desperate to get back to work on or before Easter to enable him/that. It’s a shame these idiots will infect and kill a bunch of innocent people with their callous actions instead of letting this actually run its course. But they are so unbelievably short-sighted they can’t think or do otherwise.
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Here's a question that is semi-related to the WHO bootlicking the CCP. Does Medicins Sans Frontieres work in China? Coz I would imagine that they would face but-tonnes of administrative, cultural, and financial hurdles as they try to offer medical services to people who need them. As a non-profit, (I think?), they don't have the cash that the CCP, and various local tinpot dictator local officials would demand as bribes/costs to be allowed to work. Also, given the CCP's love of detaining foreign nationals over real or perceived slights, surely MSF doctors are prime candidates to be either quietly disappeared, or publically martyred. Also how is MSF dealing with the Corona Virus globally? Travel restrictions must be hurting them. As would be having extra patients, and dealing with extra incompetent officials.
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Blistex posted:What a lovely man. Is there a setting in Google so news results exclude certain papers? I would love to stop seeing, "The National Interest" and other clickbait/lovely papers not show up. And ones that require a subscription. There used to be, but then Alibaba paid Google a shitload of money and they removed it. But there are personal blocklist extensions out there which do the same thing.
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Medicins Sans Frontieres bailed on China back in 2014. https://www.msf.org/china They will work deep inside war zones but not China. iirc at one point pre-Obamacare the US system was so hosed they started operating there.
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There are a couple poor country free healthcare NGOs that still work in the US, Obamacare didn't actually fix much. I can testify to that personally as a person too poor to pay for healthcare but making too much to qualify for any of the free programs, so I just get nothing at all. There are many of us.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:There used to be, but then Alibaba paid Google a shitload of money and they removed it. loving 
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I remember a lot of talk about very specific doughnut holes of which got closed. Still plenty of doughnuts. Then a ton of people lost their healthcare because they voted for the face eating leopard party.
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Yeah, do remember that charities operating (Not administrated from, actually operating) with PRC borders would clash with the official 'Our party is perfect; there is no poverty, no disease, no drugs, no more foreigners than strictly necessary and no dissent.' line.
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what happens if you lose your job in China? Do they have some kinda unemployment payment?
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Fat Jesus posted:what happens if you lose your job in China? Do they have some kinda unemployment payment? the local party boss assigns you a new job
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WarpedNaba posted:Yeah, do remember that charities operating (Not administrated from, actually operating) with PRC borders would clash with the official 'Our party is perfect; there is no poverty, no disease, no drugs, no more foreigners than strictly necessary and no dissent.' line. There are some charities run by non-Chinese people in China, even religious ones. I know of some that run/support orphanages. I imagine there are more. Or fewer, for all I know they got shut down in the last nuts year we've had. Off the top of my head chinaconcern.org and, you can donate even if you're wherever.
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Fat Jesus posted:what happens if you lose your job in China? Do they have some kinda unemployment payment? If you can't find a job then you can ask the local government to assign you one, but no-one would want this unless they were actually broke and starving, because you get a room and subsistence and something pointless to do.
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Fat Jesus posted:what happens if you lose your job in China? Do they have some kinda unemployment payment? I have a feeling it depends on how exactly you lose your job. Guy I know worked at a slaughter house, the slaughter house went bankrupt. The government gives him a monthly stipend so I guess about what you'd expect from unemployment, but they also made him go train to bake bread (like large-scale packaged bread) and I guess he's going to eventually be expected to work at a bread factory.
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I forget exactly, but I think some people in this thread were talking about some 4chan-derived statistic about Chinese phone cancellations as a proxy for virus deaths. I found out about that today by accident from someone who cancelled along with loads of people they know: Apparently China Mobile, one of the biggest mobile phone companies, had a really good promotional deal a while back, but tied to really high monthly rates for a year. Loads of people got it, then a couple of months ago that deal ran out, and here we are.
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Atopian posted:I forget exactly, but I think some people in this thread were talking about some 4chan-derived statistic about Chinese phone cancellations as a proxy for virus deaths. Wait that phone company murdered all those people?? gently caress things are bad in China!
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MarcusSA posted:Wait that phone company murdered all those people?? Nah, only phone manufacturers like Huawei have the ability to make the police arrest and punish people - not the carriers.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/spanish-government-under-fire-after-defective-testing-kits-fiasco/ Remember those lovely tests that the Spanish bought from China? Turns out they had gotten them from a no-name drop-shipper rather than a respectable manufacturer. Even in this time of crises, you get what you paid for at alibaba. quote:But excitement turned into despair when it emerged that 58,000 of the kits, which had already arrived in the country, were unreliable, offering only a 30 percent detection rate. The government pulled the entire batch, leading to a host of questions about the process the government followed when it purchased them.
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Darkest Auer posted:I have it on good authority (tankies in C-SPAM) that the tests were being used incorrectly and calling them defective is actually racist you're going to need to make your irony-meter more sensitive if you're going to continue to read that stuff
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golden bubble posted:https://www.politico.eu/article/spanish-government-under-fire-after-defective-testing-kits-fiasco/ We had this a few pages back and there is no way this was some shady unlicensed biotech company in loving Shenzhen of all places. You don't manufacture tens of thousands of biotech products and then ship them overseas in tandem with state propaganda trumpeting it if you don't have explicit state approval. CCP is throwing the proles under the bus to cover their own asses The CCP's ability to self-own continues to amaze though. Someone earlier in this thread said that with a 30% sensitivity you might as well flip a coin as your test, but IMO that's unfair because the coin will be right 50% of the time
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Mozi posted:you're going to need to make your irony-meter more sensitive if you're going to continue to read that stuff oh its ironic chinazis? thats different then
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It's the same irony poisoning that killed FYAD.
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Shumagorath posted:It's the same irony poisoning that killed FYAD. If only they would meet the same fate.
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Fojar38 posted:We had this a few pages back and there is no way this was some shady unlicensed biotech company in loving Shenzhen of all places. You don't manufacture tens of thousands of biotech products and then ship them overseas in tandem with state propaganda trumpeting it if you don't have explicit state approval. if those test kits worked and Spain was super thrilled about it you can bet the CCP would be taking the credit for it right now
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WarpedNaba posted:I hope they don't. I don't want that toxic filth migrating to here. It took less than a week for the idiots to get banned. Cspam tankies would fare no better.
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