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Warren is gonna endorse Bernie just after it's too late for him to outright win the DNC, then switch her endorsement over to Biden just before he's comprehensively outed as a rapist, then get picked as Clinton's running mate after the DNC crowns her.
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Mar 30, 2020 11:12
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Somfin posted:Warren is gonna endorse Bernie just after it's too late for him to outright win the DNC, then switch her endorsement over to Biden just before he's comprehensively outed as a rapist, then get picked as Clinton's running mate after the DNC crowns her. I think you will find that the reason Cuomo is being boosted, is because you cannot have 2 women on the ticket and he would be "a great vp".
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Mar 30, 2020 11:30
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah tbh i think sanders was hosed when the dynamics of everyone else dropping before ST to boost biden became evident. he could've dealt with being one on one vs biden for a while, especially with a few debates, but going from a crowded field (which sanders was winning) to what amounts to 1v1 against someone with a leg up was probably not winnable. only shot would've been if warren dropped and endorsed sanders, which lol I find it very ironic that Warrens biggest accomplished this primary was to ensure that a racist old rapist became the dem nominee.
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Mar 30, 2020 12:41
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Mar 30, 2020 12:49
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Sanders campaign thinking outside the box to get those viral hits
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Mar 30, 2020 12:54
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V. Illych L. posted:southern black people did turn out in absolute droves for biden and probably decided the outcome of the primary, there's no way of pinning this on a more comfortable villain Well at least we can count on SC in the general.
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Mar 30, 2020 13:17
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perfect example of the deep and immediate buyers' remorse
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brugroffil posted:perfect example of the deep and immediate buyers' remorse should have doubled down like the team warren or the khive crowd
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Mar 30, 2020 14:12
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https://twitter.com/cathleendecker/status/1244601718622617600
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Mar 30, 2020 14:26
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Mar 30, 2020 14:33
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Somfin posted:Warren is gonna endorse Bernie just after it's too late for him to outright win the DNC, then switch her endorsement over to Biden just before he's comprehensively outed as a rapist, then get picked as Clinton's running mate after the DNC crowns her. While that would be Peak Warren I think what happened was she was going to endorse Biden later but then the sexual assault stuff resurfaced and now she knows it would be a bad look so rather than do nothing she still found a way to embarrass herself on the issue.
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Mar 30, 2020 14:36
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kidkissinger posted:why did this article take three people to write Unity.
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HootTheOwl posted:While that would be Peak Warren I think what happened was she was going to endorse Biden later but then the sexual assault stuff resurfaced and now she knows it would be a bad look so rather than do nothing she still found a way to embarrass herself on the issue. Considering how warren ran her campaign, I'm not sure she actually does know it'd be a bad look to endorse joe. I'm assuming all those hillary staffers are still working with her on that warren democrat garbage.
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kidkissinger posted:why did this article take three people to write if they're women, probably so they can juke their stats
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Nonsense posted:
So caustic! This guy must be one of those Bernie Bros I've heard so much about.
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So regarding the youth turnout I ran the numbers, by comparing exit polling of 2016 to 2020 and the turnout of primaries in 2016 and 2020. Not all states have both exit polling and/or primaries for both years, but I compared all that do:pre:Group Pct change 2016 total 2020 total 18-24 5% 847,727 888,305 25-29 4% 649,661 678,033 30-39 29% 1,249,548 1,616,837 40-49 27% 1,420,201 1,800,182 50-64 30% 2,676,119 3,487,946 65+ 78% 1,848,097 3,289,071 Total 35% 8,672,797 11,721,471 pre:Group Pct change 2016 total 2020 total 18-49 20% 4,167,137 4,983,358 50+ 50% 4,524,216 6,777,017 Pingui fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Pingui posted:So regarding the youth turnout I ran the numbers, by comparing exit polling of 2016 to 2020 and the turnout of primaries in 2016 and 2020. Not all states have both exit polling and/or primaries for both years, but I compared all that do: The youth vote is typically considered to be 18-29, and 5% up is definitely not "massively up" especially considering literally every other age group was up 25%+ and population growth in the US was 2.5%.
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Apogee15 posted:The youth vote is typically considered to be 18-29, and 5% up is definitely not "massively up" especially considering literally every other age group was up 25%+ and population growth in the US was 2.5%. If you believe this election to be typical, I've got some news for you. The way the discourse is going it was "only the youth" that voted for Bernie. Seeing as Bernie won age categories under 50, anything under 50 is in this election being defined as "the youth vote" by MSNBC/CNN. The reason of course being that the actual truth, that Biden's coalition is comprised of people over 50 (and mostly over 65) makes him look pretty poo poo from an electability standpoint as most general election voters are not in fact 65+
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Mar 30, 2020 16:09
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Pingui posted:If you believe this election to be typical, I've got some news for you. The way the discourse is going it was "only the youth" that voted for Bernie. Seeing as Bernie won age categories under 50, anything under 50 is in this election being defined as "the youth vote" by MSNBC/CNN. lol, no one is considering anything under 50 to be the youth vote.
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Apogee15 posted:lol, no one is considering anything under 50 to be the youth vote. The cutoff for millennials is around 40. And I am not actually saying they are young, I am saying that the discourse dictates that only young people vote for Bernie, but as Bernie wins the under 50 cohort, the people stating only young people vote for Bernie are the ones implicitly stating it. These people are the very same people that says youth turnout wasn't up. Their definition, their terms - not mine. Like I said they are doing this for a reason and that reason is that if they said the actual truth: Biden is winning old people only, Biden comes of looking like an electability turd.
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Apogee15 posted:lol, no one is considering anything under 50 to be the youth vote. This is a dumb and pedantic point. There's no technical definition of "youth vote" and it wouldn't matter if it did. Bernie won the under 50 vote. Whether that is called the "youth vote" or "apogee15's incoming 3 page derail over definitions" vote doesn't matter.
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Still seems fitting given boomers still consider anyone younger than them to be a child.
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Pingui posted:The cutoff for millennials is around 40. And I am not actually saying they are young, I am saying that the discourse dictates that only young people vote for Bernie, but as Bernie wins the under 50 cohort, the people stating only young people vote for Bernie are the ones implicitly stating it. There's a difference between saying the youth vote didn't turn out like we'd hoped, and saying that younger people voted for Bernie while older people voted more for Biden. quote:
Find one single article that talked about "the youth vote" being anything above 28. joepinetree posted:This is a dumb and pedantic point. There's no technical definition of "youth vote" and it wouldn't matter if it did. Bernie won the under 50 vote. Whether that is called the "youth vote" or "apogee15's incoming 3 page derail over definitions" vote doesn't matter. When you are arguing over what something is, the definition of that thing kinda does matter. You can't say someone is wrong about something and then redefine a term to prove them wrong. Then be like "oh definitions don't matter" as a retort. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_vote_in_the_United_States
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Apogee15 posted:There's a difference between saying the youth vote didn't turn out like we'd hoped, and saying that younger people voted for Bernie while older people voted more for Biden. how about instead of spinning your wheels for 3 more pages, you take a look at this line in the table: code:
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1243280312576040961 
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Mar 30, 2020 16:34
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Swapping in Cuomo is going to be extra funny since by the time of the NY primaries, let alone the general, NYC's going to have piles of corpses.
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Mar 30, 2020 16:37
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TBH I'd happily take Cuomo over Biden at this point and would happily vote for him. I just cannot bring myself to vote for Biden.
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Just chiming in as a New Yorker to let y'all know that Cuomo loving suuuucks.
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if they install cuomo do you think anyone on the planet supporting biden up to this point would be offended that their choice for presidential candidate was ratfucked the answer is no because they're all aware biden is a senile racist rapist with literally no policies or plans and their entire political plank is established on the fact that they'll take anyone with a pulse that isn't bernie
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They make you think the candidate is gonna be a rapist just so you'll be happy to vote for a lovely candidate who isn't a rapist. Biden's trick.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Just chiming in as a New Yorker to let y'all know that Cuomo loving suuuucks. Is he worse than Biden?
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New York Times banner headline, August 17, 2022: Biden administration opens two more trans reeducation camps as compromise with senate republicans, faces mixed response
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Mar 30, 2020 16:57
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Brit question here; how is it okay to just switch out Rapey Joe for someone who didn't even run? I know it's broadly DNC ratfuckery but doesn't there need to at least be at least a pretence of legitimacy?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Brit question here; how is it okay to just switch out Rapey Joe for someone who didn't even run? I know it's broadly DNC ratfuckery but doesn't there need to at least be at least a pretence of legitimacy? considering all of the people who are willing to jump on a grenade to protect joe biden at any cost, it's a complete nonissue.
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I honestly find the concept of the DNC table-flipping the entire primary to install Cuomo equally as unpalatable as just having Biden be the winner. What was the point of the primary then? Why ever hold one again?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Brit question here; how is it okay to just switch out Rapey Joe for someone who didn't even run? I know it's broadly DNC ratfuckery but doesn't there need to at least be at least a pretence of legitimacy? It isn't and the attempt would lead to the greatest loss for the Dems nationwide since Reagan. God only knows what it would do to the downballot.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Brit question here; how is it okay to just switch out Rapey Joe for someone who didn't even run? I know it's broadly DNC ratfuckery but doesn't there need to at least be at least a pretence of legitimacy? our elections are a farce to keep the poors from rioting
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Wicked Them Beats posted:It isn't and the attempt would lead to the greatest loss for the Dems nationwide since Reagan. God only knows what it would do to the downballot. Yeah I have no idea how they do that other than literally overturning the primaries to do this, which would also destroy the democratic party Well nominating Biden will destroy the party too in November, so its lose lose either way I do hope they try to audible for Cuomo though, just so its apparent even to the diehard succ that our democracy is a joke
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Wicked Them Beats posted:It isn't and the attempt would lead to the greatest loss for the Dems nationwide since Reagan. God only knows what it would do to the downballot. It’s been impressive how many poo poo libs have pulled the “What about the downballot!?” Even after Biden being a rapist came out. Because putting an unrepentant rapist at the top of the ticket won’t affect turnout and get us killed at the state level, but putting the most popular senator in the country on it will.
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