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LingcodKilla posted:How does the white deck become unstoppable? Zero car draw and no trample. I only won a single game against a green deck due to him getting nothing but llanowar elves. You make your biggest cat fly.
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Boco_T posted:What's the list for the bad version of mono red that someone in this thread made it to Mythic with in Bo1? I scrolled back like 8 pages and couldn't find it. It was probably this one? At least it's cheaper (6 rares in total) than the one with Embercleaves, which I didn't have wildcards for. Deck 4 Fervent Champion (ELD) 124 16 Mountain (THB) 285 4 Scorch Spitter (M20) 159 4 Shock (M20) 160 4 Tin Street Dodger (RNA) 120 4 Footlight Fiend (RNA) 216 4 Gingerbrute (ELD) 219 4 Cavalcade of Calamity (RNA) 95 2 Heartfire (WAR) 131 4 Rimrock Knight (ELD) 137 2 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115 4 Light Up the Stage (RNA) 107 4 Skewer the Critics (RNA) 115
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Mar 30, 2020 19:26
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Elephant Ambush posted:You make your biggest cat fly. I was dead from zombies with deathtouch long before i could draw a second prince to make the mace big after 5 games.
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Mar 30, 2020 19:30
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the goblin deck is ironically the slowest but probably the strongest once it gets going, since it’s the only deck with removal and has the best card advantage too. It doesn’t really explode like the green deck or become unstoppable like the white deck, but you reach board states with 3 Warchiefs where you can go siege gang for 2, sac two tokens to cast two ringleaders, more siege gangs, etc. you can also sac blockers to stop the cat deck gaining life. Goblins does feel the most consistent. But Black has the best chances of getting its combo going.
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Mar 30, 2020 19:30
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If I don’t have a hand with at least three cats I just snap concede.
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Mar 30, 2020 19:40
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thespaceinvader posted:This has got me to mythic twice in the last two seasons. It's poo poo-awful outside Bo1, and sometimes IN Bo1 if there's a lot of UWx control around.
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Mar 30, 2020 19:40
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Sayara posted:It was probably this one? At least it's cheaper (6 rares in total) than the one with Embercleaves, which I didn't have wildcards for. I played this one a lot and it's also good but it's harder to play. I really like it because it can go upstairs with burn reach and it can get around those lovely Birth of Meletis walls.
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Mar 30, 2020 20:08
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thespaceinvader posted:The only major trick it has that I've not seen mentioned before (possibly because it may not be very good IDK) is Shocking or Bonecrushing your own creature to blank on opponent's Bonecrusher, or more rarely their Borrower. The logic being I'm happy to spend one or two mana to effectively remove the card advantage from the Adventure card serving souble duty, and in the case of the bonecrusher, also kill a creature that's bigger than my burn spells can handle, that can block literally everyone in my deck to death except stuff tooled up with Cleave and the Spitfires.. A really unlikely edge case: you can force your opponent to target your Bonecrusher Giant with Petty Theft if there are Clover triggers on the stack and you kill your other valid target (I have actually lost to this) e: actually maybe I could've avoided it by Declining to select a new target?
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Mar 30, 2020 20:10
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declining to select a new target just keeps the target the same hence there's basically no way to hold onto the counterspell adventure fairy if you have a clover out unless there are multiple spells on the stack
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Mar 30, 2020 20:16
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so I guess if the original target wasn't the bone crusher, that might work, but if you pick the bonecrusher first, it won't
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Mar 30, 2020 20:21
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LingcodKilla posted:How does the white deck become unstoppable? Zero car draw and no trample. I only won a single game against a green deck due to him getting nothing but llanowar elves. Do you mean the lifegain deck? I added black and it became fairly good. It roflstomps aggro and does well against midrange, but not great against combo and poorly against control.
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Mar 30, 2020 21:03
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Gynovore posted:Do you mean the lifegain deck? I added black and it became fairly good. It roflstomps aggro and does well against midrange, but not great against combo and poorly against control. This is referencing the workshop event decks, which are preconstructed.
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Mar 30, 2020 21:05
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Boco_T posted:Thanks! Wonder how many games it would take to make mythic and if I can quarantine grind for it in April just to say I did it, like how one single time I made legend in Hearthstone I'm currently playing this version: quote:Deck It's taken me 37 matches to get to Gold (IV). 11:4 in Bronze 13:6 in Silver Currently 1:2 in Gold, though I took out 1x Light up the Stage and 1x Phoenix of Ash in favor of adding 2x Torbran. Torbran hasn't made any impact at all so far. I think I'm favoring a 3-drop in its slot. Just had my first mirror match that had Robber of the Rich. Spicy!
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Boco_T posted:Thanks! Wonder how many games it would take to make mythic and if I can quarantine grind for it in April just to say I did it, like how one single time I made legend in Hearthstone Depends how good you are with it and how streaky your luck is (not just how lucky you are, but how lucky you are in bulk. It's uch better to win 7 games on the trot then lose 7 games on the trot because of the way that the ranks work (sometimes losing a game on the bottom of rank 3 doesn't kick you down to rank 4, and I've not ever figured out why, and of course if you manage to win the crucial game at the top of rank 1 you can lose as many games as you want for a while...), than to alternate winning and losing 14 games on the trot. I've been steadily increasing my speed of getting to mythic since I started maining monored on Bo1, from ~1300 3 seasons back (albeit that one started in gold because I missed mythic my second season out), to 200 now. I doubt I'll get a lot faster than that, just because even now this deck is only sat at 59% on the ranked queue, and that's not going to get MUCH quicker than 200 games from bottom of Plat to Mythic I don't think. Watch this space though, albeit next season is going to be weird since it'll have a set drop in the middle of it and the meta will blow wide open for a while. I'm hoping I can hit mythic before the new set and ride the wave of a new meta to actualy doing well IN mythic. My best since my first season out during the Oko Times is still only something like 97%, I've not broken into numbered levels since my first time.
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Mar 30, 2020 22:37
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Historic Pauper is a hilarious arms race when both players are buffing creatures with ancestral mask. Little did they know I could suplex their dudes with an indestructible moss viper!
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Mar 30, 2020 23:47
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LMAO I didn’t read the rules or look at the Decklists so I played one game as Green and just kept chaining Marwen into Draw spells and somewhere between my 6th Llanowar Elf and my 5th Marwen I was like “what the gently caress is going on?”
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Mar 31, 2020 00:11
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Bust Rodd posted:LMAO I didn’t read the rules or look at the Decklists so I played one game as Green and just kept chaining Marwen into Draw spells and somewhere between my 6th Llanowar Elf and my 5th Marwen I was like “what the gently caress is going on?” I was just in a slugfest as zombies against a goblin deck with a great pilot. We went back and forth a bunch and then they got their draw/sac engine going and it was glorious to behold. I had so much fun losing to that person. This event owns.
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Mar 31, 2020 00:21
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Yeah Nissa in brawl is fuckin' dumb
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Mar 31, 2020 02:32
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VictualSquid posted:If by unstoppable you mean: Spend a few turns desperately holding on while praying that you draw that flying card before you die. my first game as white I was swinging every turn with a 25/25 vigilant lifelinker, I put my opponent in the abyss and also gained well out of his reach. Playing against red, he vomited his whole deck on the field but reached the point where he had drawn and played every nonland in his deck (lands were all at the bottom due to ringleaders). He eventually killed all of my cats via massive gang blocking and siege-gang but at that point I was at 120 life and he had 13 power in play. From then on every time I drew a creature he blew it up immediately before I could put a mace on it, but that ate into his power and slowed his clock, letting me draw more creatures. When he decked i was at 38 or so.
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Bust Rodd posted:LMAO I didn’t read the rules or look at the Decklists so I played one game as Green and just kept chaining Marwen into Draw spells and somewhere between my 6th Llanowar Elf and my 5th Marwen I was like “what the gently caress is going on?” this was me too, "i sure am drawing a lot of multiples here, wonder what else is in the deck" a turn or two later "hang on this is my 6th goblins have haste guy and my 5th draw more goblins guy, oh i guess that's the gimmick"
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Toozler posted:Yeah Nissa in brawl is fuckin' dumb Please post your list!
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:my first game as white I was swinging every turn with a 25/25 vigilant lifelinker, I put my opponent in the abyss and also gained well out of his reach. Playing against red, he vomited his whole deck on the field but reached the point where he had drawn and played every nonland in his deck (lands were all at the bottom due to ringleaders). He eventually killed all of my cats via massive gang blocking and siege-gang but at that point I was at 120 life and he had 13 power in play. From then on every time I drew a creature he blew it up immediately before I could put a mace on it, but that ate into his power and slowed his clock, letting me draw more creatures. When he decked i was at 38 or so. That reads like the Goblin player didn't know how to pilot their deck, not white cats being strong. Goblins never want to engage in actual combat, so if their engine gets going your giant lifelinker won't do anything unless it has flying. They just chump block with goblins that aren't part of the discount/mana/siege commander engine and then sac them to throw at the opponents face.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Please post your list! Commander 1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World (WAR) 169 Deck 21 Forest (UND) 96 1 Castle Garenbrig (ELD) 240 1 Arboreal Grazer (WAR) 149 1 Gilded Goose (ELD) 160 1 Pelt Collector (GRN) 141 1 Veil of Summer (M20) 198 1 Incubation Druid (RNA) 131 1 Kenrith's Transformation (ELD) 164 1 Once Upon a Time (ELD) 169 1 Pollenbright Druid (WAR) 173 1 Rabid Bite (M20) 190 1 Paradise Druid (WAR) 171 1 Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (THB) 169 1 Evolution Sage (WAR) 159 1 Thrashing Brontodon (M20) 197 1 Ilysian Caryatid (THB) 174 1 Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig (ELD) 185 1 Vivien, Champion of the Wilds (WAR) 180 1 Beast Whisperer (GRN) 123 1 Bloom Hulk (WAR) 154 1 Nylea, Keen-Eyed (THB) 185 1 Guardian Project (RNA) 130 1 Questing Beast (ELD) 171 1 Renata, Called to the Hunt (THB) 196 1 Biogenic Ooze (RNA) 122 1 God-Eternal Rhonas (WAR) 163 1 Wolfwillow Haven (THB) 205 1 Beanstalk Giant (ELD) 149 1 Prey Upon (GRN) 143 1 Planewide Celebration (WAR) 172 1 End-Raze Forerunners (RNA) 124 1 The Great Henge (ELD) 161 1 Finale of Devastation (WAR) 160 1 Voracious Hydra (M20) 200 1 Blast Zone (WAR) 244 1 Karn's Bastion (WAR) 248 1 Shadowspear (THB) 236 1 Cavalier of Thorns (M20) 167 1 Vivien, Arkbow Ranger (M20) 199 Removed some of the fancy pants stuff from the earlier post (Lotuses, Iroan Games, Shared Summons) for more turn 2 ramp, earlier Nissa just wins. Obvious things of note, make your lands into creatures before you play any proliferate stuff, and look to proliferate pop ult on Nissa any chance you can (mostly Planewide) since you can cast her forever with 21 forests on board
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STiL. posted:I'm really excited to share this historic pauper deck, it runs like a dream and I think it does a good job of pushing the pretty strict boundaries of the format. I've been playing this deck and having a good time. Just doing okay, I think my record so far is 2-2, 4-1, and 2-2, but it's been fun. I've got a handle on most of the matchups, but what the hell are you supposed to do about Selesnya Auras? Granted I think most decks would struggle to handle that much hexproof, but still. Is there any answer or is that just Card Games? also, do you think there's a place for Epicure of Blood in this list? Feels like it could be a very strong closer. Oh, and I swapped out one Forever Young for one Silverflame Ritual. Not sure if it's the right call, but Forever Young feels like a dead card for how often I see it and sometimes you just need a little bit of gas to get across the finish line. Somberbrero fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Mar 31, 2020 |
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Toozler posted:Commander Thanks. Very close to mine but I don't proliferate. Is that really worth it?
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Mar 31, 2020 05:43
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I don't know, seems to work out. Try a Planewide Celebration at least in your deck, if you aren't playing one already.
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Mar 31, 2020 06:18
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 whats the pick for y'all? Do you go with the shimmerwing for more synergy or the raw power of the legendary spider that also counts as an enchantment
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little munchkin posted:
that spider is pretty unimpressive, and you've already got good synergies with shimmerwing, i'm taking the chimera.
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Mar 31, 2020 07:17
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2 warbriar's 2 eutropias and a mantle, I think you take the Shimmerwing
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having a real tough with this draft. i can't stress enough how dogshit most of the p1 picks were, opened with Elsbeth Conquers Death and then didn't really see much good white after that, or good anything really. I was trying to keep my options open because there wasn't really anything worth jumping at. P2P1 is tricky though. Not too deep into Black yet, but there are four good playables. Callaphe wouldn't be bad either, and if the Vexing Gull comes back around I'd take it. Dryad made me think, but I'm guessing it's the wrong call and I should try to go UW or WB. I finally installed 17lands at least.
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little munchkin posted:
Definitely the Shimmerwing or Arasta, but I think in that order. Arasta is OK, but the Shimmerwing is excellent with your existing setup. Shame Arasta wasn't a Setessan Champion, really.
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Somberbrero posted:having a real tough with this draft. i can't stress enough how dogshit most of the p1 picks were, opened with Elsbeth Conquers Death and then didn't really see much good white after that, or good anything really. I was trying to keep my options open because there wasn't really anything worth jumping at. P2P1 is tricky though. Definitely a messay draw, and you're not too deep into anything yet, and already have a bit of fixing, i'd be inclined to pick the Dryad as further fixing, and hope to wheel the Hunmaster, but none of it's especially good. There's also a reasonable argument for the Hero as a reasonable 2-drop you can get some upside with by targetting it with the eyes or the Wayfarer which goes with a couple of cards you already have, but I wouldn't want to first pick middling commons like those if I could avoid it. RIP your draft I guess.
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Somberbrero posted:having a real tough with this draft. i can't stress enough how dogshit most of the p1 picks were, opened with Elsbeth Conquers Death and then didn't really see much good white after that, or good anything really. I was trying to keep my options open because there wasn't really anything worth jumping at. P2P1 is tricky though. None of your blue cards are good enough to make me stay in it, it's either Hero or Mire's Grasp here. If you're going to take a blue card I'd go with Gull over Callaphe, she sucks. I need to see the draft to find out what happened in pack 1. If you had 17lands installed before you started you can share a draft that's still in progress. Also big fat fuckin lol at LSVs day 0 ratings that has Callaphe and Aracnir higher than Hero, Wayfarer and Gull. Just turn those off at this point, they're not helpful.
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What is your favourite brawl mirror match? I just had an hilarious Haktos vs. Haktos fight.
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How do you guys find people to play commander with? Is it just through the play button and not a special mode?
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Squiggly posted:How do you guys find people to play commander with? Is it just through the play button and not a special mode? there's a play mode called BRAWLER'S GUILDHALL and it's free for now
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Elephant Ambush posted:Thanks. Very close to mine but I don't proliferate. Is that really worth it? I would argue it is. In any slugfest matchup where you’re both trying to go wide with guys, your team being all 4/4s and 5/5s to power through their 2/2s and 3/3s is huge. Also the removal in this format is very weird and some decks have a much harder time dealing with a 5/5 than you’d think.
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Squiggly posted:How do you guys find people to play commander with? Is it just through the play button and not a special mode? Under normal circumstances it's only available for free on Wednesday, (Wednesday Brawl, natch) the current pay-to-play Brawl option, Brawlers Guildhall, is free due to the 'rona, so it's there for at least this month.
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i like the idea of these Precon events, especially for decks that are allowed to break the rules and such, but the ones they've done so far have been so Bland and Vanilla and also super Unbalanced. if you're gonna do unbalanced crazy shenanigans, cool! Lets do it, but its boring to watch my opponent chain 4 Return of the Wildspeaker and cast 23 Llanowar Elves followed by an End-Raze Boars, that isn't fun
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