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| R. Allin-Khan |
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| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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mudskipp posted:I had something similar for a year or so before my wife finally asked a neighbour. She reckoned it was coming from someone's boiler. I'd been assuming it came on when they washed their hands. I do like the poo poo mashing answer though. I'd been thinking it was an external bit of pipe vibrating, otherwise it'd be mad loud in their house if I can hear it from over the road 3 houses away. Sound travels in lots of weird ways, if the boiler/pump was in an insulated loft it's entirely possible that it was completely inaudible to them.
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ThomasPaine posted:Well, confirmed infection rates haven't dramatically increased over the last few days which is a significant divergence from the Italian experience, but that may be down to testing. I do hope we get lucky on this though because I'd murder a pint. ISTR Italy is a bad example because of the patchy way the lockdown was implemented, and we should be looking at Lombardy alone for an example of how our strategy is likely to work - that's probably being optimistic but if true it's not impossible that we'll have turned the corner by the end of April and start looking at returning to normal in May. Does anyone know when the WHO will start releasing data from their trials of treatments? I know the trials only officially started this week so I'd assume at least three weeks before it's even possible to tell if anything's working, but something capable of either treating it or (and this is probably madly optimistic) protecting the most vulnerable before they develop symptoms would also change that considerably.
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Mar 31, 2020 10:58
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Mar 31, 2020 11:02
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Sound travels in lots of weird ways, if the boiler/pump was in an insulated loft it's entirely possible that it was completely inaudible to them. can confirm, especially with how far the Isle of Wight ferry "please return to your car" tannoy announcements are audible in Portsmouth
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Mar 31, 2020 11:08
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The sound waves, upon noticing that they are in Portsmouth, spread rapidly to try to escape.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:10
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Guavanaut posted:Do they sound any different to outside air conditioner units? Aircon is more continous as opposed to periodical IIRC, but both involve compressors and fans, so... e:'b' Biggus Dickus fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Mar 31, 2020 |
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Mar 31, 2020 11:12
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Guavanaut posted:The sound waves, upon noticing that they are in Portsmouth, spread rapidly to try to escape.  wait, made it better 
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Mar 31, 2020 11:12
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goddamnedtwisto posted:ISTR Italy is a bad example because of the patchy way the lockdown was implemented, and we should be looking at Lombardy alone for an example of how our strategy is likely to work - that's probably being optimistic but if true it's not impossible that we'll have turned the corner by the end of April and start looking at returning to normal in May. I called it that we'd see peak new cases around the second week of April then peak deaths 2-3 weeks after that, with the lockdown being relaxed from mid-May. I imagine there will still be restrictions on public gatherings (maybe pubs etc too?) for a while after personal movement is permitted again, but I'd be surprised if we weren't well on our way to being back to some kind of normality by July. I still stand by this despite some people itt thinking I'm being hopelessly naive - even this imperfect lockdown is more than enough to arrest exponential growth and where I am at least it feels like the majority are taking it seriously. There may be a second wave of course but I'm not worrying about that atm E: it's going to go on much much longer than that in the states from what I can tell ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Mar 31, 2020 |
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Mar 31, 2020 11:15
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Semi-serious question - can the virus live on the fur of animals? I'm suddenly worried about my cat and his slatternly behaviour accepting strokes from anyone willing to give them (and habit of touring my neighbours looking for them) being a vector. Yeah but hopefully not for long. It should have a tough time living on anything alive that it can't infect. Like it probably doesn't live as long on your skin as it does on a plastic packet. Still is a potential vector though if your cat gets touched by a lot of strangers.
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Communist Thoughts posted:Yeah but hopefully not for long. It should have a tough time living on anything alive that it can't infect. I hope this can be confirmed officially because I saw a lovely staffie waiting outside the supermarket and was sad that I didn't pet it.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:16
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:can confirm, especially with how far the Isle of Wight ferry "please return to your car" tannoy announcements are audible in Portsmouth The wheels squealing on the first few DLR trains of the morning do similar things all over the Isle of Dogs - I reckon with clever enough processing you could use it to echolocate all the new buildings going up by tracking the way the noise changes with position.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:19
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There's this enormous dog sized cat that thinks our flat is his home and I gave him some good pets cause it had been a while. So I'm a dead man walking basically. Oh actually I did wash my hands right after and I'm now pretty pro at not touching my face while outside so I'm good there. Girlfriend has horrible toothache and the whole NHS dentists are totally shut down. She's having to brave the outside for a dental kit and Painkillers 
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Mar 31, 2020 11:20
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I went out for a walk the other day but a strand of hair escaped my hat and tickled my face and I was powerless to do anything until I got home, by which time i was crawling on the floor and sobbing
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Mar 31, 2020 11:24
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hemale in pain posted:ahh yes, please give me more boot and never stop gently caress off. Edit. Imagine if your Nan had just called you frightened half to death because some prick in expensive walking gear had just parked outside her house and was now sat on her wall shouting loudly into a mobile phone. learnincurve fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Mar 31, 2020 |
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Mar 31, 2020 11:26
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ThomasPaine posted:I called it that we'd see peak new cases around the second week of April then peak deaths 2-3 weeks after that, with the lockdown being relaxed from mid-May. I imagine there will still be restrictions on public gatherings (maybe pubs etc too?) for a while after personal movement is permitted again, but I'd be surprised if we weren't well on our way to being back to some kind of normality by July. I still stand by this despite some people itt thinking I'm being hopelessly naive - even this imperfect lockdown is more than enough to arrest exponential growth and where I am at least it feels like the majority are taking it seriously. It's barely enough. We are just below the "double in three days" threshold for uncontrolled pandemic growth. Scotland is doing better - we're South Korea to England's Italy - but we should be aiming to be Japan. Except without the anime and panty vending machines, of course.
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So has anyone managed to model what would happen if instead of a general lockdown we just said "All vulnerable groups stay indoors for 12 weeks"? Obviously there's loads of potential problems there (e.g. non-vulnerable people living with vulnerable people, medical care for non-COVID conditions in that population, people who don't even know they're vulnerable), but maybe not anything that insurmountable. I'm just wondering if that might be a viable option if it turns out there's a resurgence in autumn/winter, although I suppose one advantage of the current lockdown is there's lots of volunteers for delivering supplies to those who really can't leave the house.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:28
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I went out for a walk the other day but a strand of hair escaped my hat and tickled my face and I was powerless to do anything until I got home, by which time i was crawling on the floor and sobbing See this is another reason bikers shall inherit the earth. We're all capable of ignoring itchy noses and suppressing coughs and sneezes for hours at a time if required.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:29
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Jedit posted:It's barely enough. We are just below the "double in three days" threshold for uncontrolled pandemic growth. Scotland is doing better - we're South Korea to England's Italy - but we should be aiming to be Japan. Except without the anime and panty vending machines, of course. Japan but no panty vending machines or cultural output describes the UK quite well
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Mar 31, 2020 11:29
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ThomasPaine posted:I called it that we'd see peak new cases around the second week of April then peak deaths 2-3 weeks after that, with the lockdown being relaxed from mid-May. I imagine there will still be restrictions on public gatherings (maybe pubs etc too?) for a while after personal movement is permitted again, but I'd be surprised if we weren't well on our way to being back to some kind of normality by July. I still stand by this despite some people itt thinking I'm being hopelessly naive - even this imperfect lockdown is more than enough to arrest exponential growth and where I am at least it feels like the majority are taking it seriously. The NHSE contracts for use of private hospitals is for 14 weeks starting tomorrow and then rolling afterwards so there is expected to be a majorly disrupted medical system for at least that long.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So has anyone managed to model what would happen if instead of a general lockdown we just said "All vulnerable groups stay indoors for 12 weeks"? Obviously there's loads of potential problems there (e.g. non-vulnerable people living with vulnerable people, medical care for non-COVID conditions in that population, people who don't even know they're vulnerable), but maybe not anything that insurmountable. I think this was the original herd immunity plan right? Lock up the old and let the young and fit get it until theyr immune and gamgam and peepaw emerge into a new world. Wasn't it like 250k deaths best case?
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Mar 31, 2020 11:32
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Communist Thoughts posted:I think this was the original herd immunity plan right? Was that it? Obviously it's impossible to tell because the Government announces its plans via journo twitter at 11pm.
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Jedit posted:It's barely enough. We are just below the "double in three days" threshold for uncontrolled pandemic growth. Scotland is doing better - we're South Korea to England's Italy - but we should be aiming to be Japan. Except without the anime and panty vending machines, of course. I was under the impression that Japan is a total clusterfuck but looks good because they're basically doing no testing at all?
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Mar 31, 2020 11:39
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If anything I think plod drones should be firing big nets at people out for naughty walks and they have to lie there all tangled up for to be collected by the unclean man with his plague trolley and duly dumped in the leper pits 
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Mar 31, 2020 11:41
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ThomasPaine posted:I was under the impression that Japan is a total clusterfuck but looks good because they're basically doing no testing at all? Yup, that does seem to be the general suspicion among the Japanese journos who've been paying attention. One of their most famous comedians just popped his clogs, so we may be seeing a reassessment of the threat there soon.
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crispix posted:If anything I think plod drones should be firing big nets at people out for naughty walks and they have to lie there all tangled up for to be collected by the unclean man with his plague trolley and duly dumped in the leper pits I told you this was going to lead to some weird fetishes, didn't I? Foreveriallly entombed in police drone nets and loving it.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:42
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Quite nice visualisation off the BBC
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Mar 31, 2020 11:42
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learnincurve posted:gently caress off. Oh no! Not a prick in expensive walking gear talking on the phone near my second or third home I've escaped off to!
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Mar 31, 2020 11:43
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Oh no! Not a prick in expensive walking gear talking on the phone near my second or third home I've escaped off to! And that Nan's name? HITLER don't be a dick
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Mar 31, 2020 11:44
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Oh no! Not a prick in expensive walking gear talking on the phone near my second or third home I've escaped off to!
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The wheels squealing on the first few DLR trains of the morning do similar things all over the Isle of Dogs - I reckon with clever enough processing you could use it to echolocate all the new buildings going up by tracking the way the noise changes with position. Some audio-analysis work going on in the forensic architecture field. Give the link time to load: https://forensic-architecture.org/methodology/audio-analysis
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Mar 31, 2020 11:47
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Was that it? Obviously it's impossible to tell because the Government announces its plans via journo twitter at 11pm. Yeah there was I think exactly one early video of someone mentioning the "quarantine all vulnerable people for the duration" aspect of the plan before it was dropped entirely. Don't think bojo or anyone else at the top ever acknowledged it though.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:48
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surely it's better not to drive somewhere to go for a walk anyway. yeah the police are bastards but avoiding non-essential travel seems like an easy thing everyone can do
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Mar 31, 2020 11:49
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minema posted:surely it's better not to drive somewhere to go for a walk anyway. yeah the police are bastards but avoiding non-essential travel seems like an easy thing everyone can do with greenhouse gas emissions and pollution falling across the board during the crisis, someone’s got to go out of their way to make up the shortfall
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Mar 31, 2020 11:53
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minema posted:surely it's better not to drive somewhere to go for a walk anyway. yeah the police are bastards but avoiding non-essential travel seems like an easy thing everyone can do Genuinely not sure what harm a walk in the hills is though. If you're not coming into contact with anyone else and aren't going round alternating between touching everything/your face, where's the possibility for infection? If it's serious enough that you could pick it up from going for a walk by yourself, then why the gently caress are we still letting people go shopping?
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Mar 31, 2020 11:57
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minema posted:surely it's better not to drive somewhere to go for a walk anyway. yeah the police are bastards but avoiding non-essential travel seems like an easy thing everyone can do Some people can't safely walk where they actually live. My uncle lives right off a major road in the country side with no pavement. He has to pop into the car with his dog and drive for 5 minutes to a local rambling path.
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Mar 31, 2020 12:02
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TACD posted:lol why do you always go out of your way to be a oval office It usually isn't that far out of my way.
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Mar 31, 2020 12:03
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vulnerable in this case should probably include everyone over 50+, maybe even 40+, based on hospitalisation rates, and even then uncontrolled spread amongst the less vulnerable still probably puts you over your bed capacity pretty quickly then you've got the fact that isolation in the UK atm is not particularly complete so unless we literally forced the vulnerable people to stay in their homes and arranged no contact food deliveries for millions of people (maybe even most of the population) a lot of them would still be getting infected also, dunno about you but I'm not mad keen on catching this even if I only have a 10% chance of being hospitalised and a 0.2% chance of dying or whatevrr. not sure how many other youngish people would be happy about risking serious illness or death to keep the economy running when everyone else gets to sit inside to keep them safe? general anaesthetic is disconcerting enough when you go under in a quiet anaesthetic room for a planned operation you know you will almost certainly survive. Lying helpless in a ward surrounded by doctors, nurses and the dying while someone puts a cannula in you, knowing that you're going to be intubated and have 50/50 odds of ever waking up and wondering if the last thing you'll ever feel is the cold running up your arm and across your chest as you rapidly lose the ability to think, that's the stuff of nightmares MadJackal posted:Day 8
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Mar 31, 2020 12:04
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Renaissance Robot posted:Genuinely not sure what harm a walk in the hills is though. If you're not coming into contact with anyone else and aren't going round alternating between touching everything/your face, where's the possibility for infection? I think it's more that having cars on the road increases risk of breakdowns/accidents requiring assistance, as well as more petrol refills. idk I have been taking the dogs on pavement walks only since lockdown started since it seems like it's not essential to be driving elsewhere.
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Mar 31, 2020 12:04
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lol Japan's plan is to let all the elderly die to help alleviate their hugely lopsided demographics and then feign ignorance.
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i agree that travelling some place out of your way is dumb, though just going for a drive to take your dog for a walk is fine, but police enforcing random not-laws is real bad. also i dont wanna be a jerk but maybe dont move to the countryside and then get annoyed when others do the same? i dunno
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