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Jamesman posted:In one part of Scream, people are told to stay indoors and avoid gatherings to help keep people safe, and a bunch of people ignore that and have a party, and then people die because of that party. I appreciate this.
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Took a moment but yes, genius.
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d3lness posted:Simply that the show doesn't work without a laugh track. The show is 50% dead air reserved for laugh tracks. Nothing past that. Hope this helps! That's not really the case though. They at least have expressions, and the scenes seem to deliver well despite the lack of a laugh track. For what they are, which again, is not something I enjoy, they actually work well.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:He's so charming you nearly forget that his main plot for the first seven years of the show is him wanting to cheat on his wife with a woman at least 10 years his junior, that works for his family and relies on that job for her visa. I mean... the power dynamics are pretty bad, but he doesn't actually make a move on Daphne until she's a resident iirc. He's very clearly infatuated with her, and for most of the show it doesn't go beyond that. I don't think he explicitly wants to cheat on his wife, he just wishes he wasn't married. I could be misremembering ofc, but he divorces Maris before making a move on her I think? And when they get together, the relationship itself is pretty healthy, aside from some issues where she doesn't respect his boundaries regarding doctor-patient confidentiality.
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alexandriao posted:I mean... the power dynamics are pretty bad, but he doesn't actually make a move on Daphne until she's a resident iirc. He's very clearly infatuated with her, and for most of the show it doesn't go beyond that. I don't think he explicitly wants to cheat on his wife, he just wishes he wasn't married. I could be misremembering ofc, but he divorces Maris before making a move on her I think? He got divorced over the course of like 4 seasons, married Dr. Mel, and then dumped his new wife to be with Daphne on their honeymoon (at Daphne's wedding). Niles was kind of a dick. They both kinda were to be honest. He's still my favorite character in the show though. But hen we got more and more of Daphne's family because of them getting together, and that's really the worst part of the entire show's run.
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I assume this is a song I've never heard?
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jojoinnit posted:I assume this is a song I've never heard? Yeah maybe, but I got you pegged.
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Solice Kirsk posted:He got divorced over the course of like 4 seasons, married Dr. Mel, and then dumped his new wife to be with Daphne on their honeymoon (at Daphne's wedding). Niles was kind of a dick. They both kinda were to be honest. He's still my favorite character in the show though. But hen we got more and more of Daphne's family because of them getting together, and that's really the worst part of the entire show's run. I mean, Dr. Mel was extremely abusive, I don't see him dumping her as being even remotely a problem. As a Brit, the scenes with Daphne's family are pretty cringe-worthy
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jojoinnit posted:I assume this is a song I've never heard? 
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Looks like he's been hanging in his other show too much. And best show theme song ever. Fite me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS0VQOHX7lM
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Niles is one of those characters that is objectively terrible but since we see him through the lens of a tv show and everything is framed to make him likeable it’s easy to overlook that. Same way women love a man in a romantic comedy but in the real world it would be worrying if you were to experience it
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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah maybe, but I got you pegged. 
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But I don’t know what to do with that tossed salad ..... .....
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Niles is a good character, but not a good person. None of them are. Is there even a good sitcom where the characters are good people?
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Woebin posted:Niles is a good character, but not a good person. None of them are. Is there even a good sitcom where the characters are good people? The Bundys were loyal to each other in a way you didn't see in sitcoms at the time very much 
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Woebin posted:Niles is a good character, but not a good person. None of them are. Is there even a good sitcom where the characters are good people? The Cosby show
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Woebin posted:Niles is a good character, but not a good person. None of them are. Is there even a good sitcom where the characters are good people? Not every character, but you'll get one or two per show to contrast the personality to others. I was just thinking of My Name is Earl where Earl is trying to be a good person, and the humor is that his attempts are often kind of backwards. RE Fraiser's theme song, I love catching up on this thread & watching the latest Binging With Babish this morning, especially since in the beginning he used that theme song as the intro for his videos.
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Woebin posted:Niles is a good character, but not a good person. None of them are. Is there even a good sitcom where the characters are good people? All of them? I mean Full House, Home Improvement, etc Flawed characters sure, but not bad people
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Woebin posted:Niles is a good character, but not a good person. None of them are. Is there even a good sitcom where the characters are good people? The family in Bob's Burgers are pretty good, I think. They have their sitcom moments of selfishness and stupidity but they all really love and support each other.
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oldpainless posted:The Cosby show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDRwiSZSBg
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The Bloop posted:All of them? Anyway not arguing that all good sitcom characters are bad people, just that I haven't really seen a lot of good people in those shows. But also my statement probably wasn't well thought out, just hasteposting while I'm supposed to work.
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Community had pretty "good" characters, and it was often a point that when they weren't being inept as gently caress their ethics were actively making their lives harder/shittier than they probably deserved.
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wizzardstaff posted:The family in Bob's Burgers are pretty good, I think. They have their sitcom moments of selfishness and stupidity but they all really love and support each other. Gene is a bad person and will grow up to be a worse one. Like Bobby Hill.
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Woebin posted:Are those good shows? Genuine question, I never saw them and generally got the impression that they're bad. I'll admit that I did miss the first "good" in your sentence But yes they are, or were in their time, good shows for their intended audiences. There were good family values and poo poo on display (like whoa) and while Full House was mostly just inoffensive family faire, Home Improvement was actually pretty funny.
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Now I'm trying to think of a good comedy that's actually aimed at adults where the characters were largely good people.
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mind the walrus posted:Community had pretty "good" characters, and it was often a point that when they weren't being inept as gently caress their ethics were actively making their lives harder/shittier than they probably deserved. Pierce was so bad he balances out everyone else.
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Third Rock From the Sun's cast are bad human impersonators who learn to be good people.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Pierce was so bad he balances out everyone else. There's just enough action on his part to show that he's a product of circumstance, even if it's hard to not read into things because he's played Chevy Chase.
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The Bloop posted:Now I'm trying to think of a good comedy that's actually aimed at adults where the characters were largely good people. Parks and Rec
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The Bloop posted:Now I'm trying to think of a good comedy that's actually aimed at adults where the characters were largely good people. The Good Place. Or, rather, the entire premise is about becoming good.
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Princess Carolyn does things to try and benefit her career more than is often healthy but I'd say she's fundamentally a good person (if not human)
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SHARIA LAW SCHOOL posted:The Good Place. Or, rather, the entire premise is about becoming good. I loving love the good place and yes you are correct about the premise but basically everyone in it is explicitly bad so im not sure that counts
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Parks and Rec There's a thread in PYF that was just talking about how Leslie Knope is absolute dogshit at her job and a huge drain on the rest of the cast
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The Bloop posted:All of them? For Full House: Literally every adult emotionally abuses every single other adult on the show and spends the entire run of the show making everybody else in the house feel like poo poo. Stephanie Tanner repeatedly puts the family deeper into debt (crashing a car into the kitchen, getting busted drinking with Gibbler at a party and the legal fallout from that, etc.), DJ is no better (literally floods the kitchen with cement at one point) and Michelle is a gender swapped Damien that lives to make every single other character in the show suffer. For Home Improvement: This show was so loving terrible people didn't even notice when the actress that played Jill was swapped from Frances Fisher to Patricia Richardson. Also gently caress Tim Allen and anything he touches.
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