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It’s very funny to me that the Mormons I know are being BY FAR the most prepared, calm, and compassionate about this while the Protestants and Catholics I know are gripped in shivering shaking delusion and fear because they don’t actually believe any of the poo poo they pretend to for social cohesion.
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Taintrunner posted:baaahahahaha that was the one I was thinking of. Jesus loving Christ Why did he have CPAP machines on hand?
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I don’t k ow what’s going to happen except I’m pretty white unionization will increase in the us whether they is good or bad for the left is up to your interpretation
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Taintrunner posted:baaahahahaha that was the one I was thinking of. Jesus loving Christ that's...not a ventilator A Gnarlacious Bro posted:It’s very funny to me that the Mormons I know are being BY FAR the most prepared, calm, and compassionate about this while the Protestants and Catholics I know are gripped in shivering shaking delusion and fear because they don’t actually believe any of the poo poo they pretend to for social cohesion. to be fair to the catholics, those are the symptoms of their DTs.
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Torpor posted:https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173 gimme the cliff notes, which medications and/or dietary supplements should i be buying in bulk? are there alternatives i can buy at a pet store?
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Apr 1, 2020 17:15
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NofrikinfuN posted:i fell for the pr stunt It's not a dumb move. He got all the pr while only having to spend a tiny fraction of what real ventilators would cost
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:It’s very funny to me that the Mormons I know are being BY FAR the most prepared, calm, and compassionate about this while the Protestants and Catholics I know are gripped in shivering shaking delusion and fear because they don’t actually believe any of the poo poo they pretend to for social cohesion. That reminds me. Syfy has BSG streaming on their site. https://www.syfy.com/battlestargalactica Good quarantine TV. Love me some drunken space mormon fuckbots
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shovelbum posted:Yeah this is consistent with ny and iirc sk numbers which means inside a month setting foot outside will have worse than Russian roulette odds lmao I haven't had a lot of luck finding SK hospitalization rates, but this claims "about 10%": https://web.archive.org/web/20200310121826/https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/asia/south-korea-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html In the no-preventive-measures scenario, 50 million US deaths is not plausible, but 20m is.
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Gum posted:It's not a dumb move. He got all the pr while only having to spend a tiny fraction of what real ventilators would cost true and incredibly cynical anybody wanna go covid bunker busting in new zealand?
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Apr 1, 2020 17:17
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Torpor posted:https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173 brb gotta lock down a bloodbag
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Apr 1, 2020 17:17
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hepatizon posted:In the no-preventive-measures scenario, 50 million US deaths is not plausible, but 20m is. Let's not kid ourselves, we're in that scenario. With the weird panic buying sprees and plague bearing delivery guys and everything being essential we're probably actually worsening it vs do nothing
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Apr 1, 2020 17:17
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NofrikinfuN posted:gimme the cliff notes, which medications and/or dietary supplements should i be buying in bulk? Get yourself an iron lick. I recommend a length of NPS 2" pipe, available from Lowes or Home Depot. Mount it directly to the wall in a part of your house that you pass through often - perhaps the hallway to the bathroom.
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Taintrunner posted:baaahahahaha that was the one I was thinking of. Jesus loving Christ hahaha holy poo poo that's absolutely just a CPAP machine https://www.resmed.com/en-us/sleep-apnea/cpap-products/cpap-equipment-the-complete-system/ This company does make ventilators! But that ain't it.
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Nodelphi posted:Not interested in the slap fight but our health system that encompasses 25 hospitals is seeing a more or less 20% hospitalization rate of patients diagnosed with Covid19. True there are probably others at home that don’t get diagnosed so the numbers may be off in that regard but otherwise 20% of those I diagnose needing the hospital is pretty dead on. Could that 20% hospitalization rate be based on those who are getting tested at the hospital or other medical centers? In other words, the number is skewing that way because those being tested are already seeking acute care?
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wow we went from 3000 to 4000 deaths pretty fast huh
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Torpor posted:https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID-19_Disease_ORF8_and_Surface_Glycoprotein_Inhibit_Heme_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173 Peter Theil wins again
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How do the hospitilization, ICU, and ventilator rates compare to this CDC study on the need for stockpiling ventilators? https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/23/6/pdfs/16-1417.pdf 
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/_pem_pem/status/1245383086491283457?s=19 lol American journalism is literally just state propaganda
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shovelbum posted:Let's not kid ourselves, we're in that scenario. With the weird panic buying sprees and plague bearing delivery guys and everything being essential we're probably actually worsening it vs do nothing The current measures are absolutely better than nothing. My prediction is 0.5-4 million deaths. I think 0.5m is achievable if we get 2/3 of: 1) enforced lockdown in all metro areas 2) an effective treatment/prophylaxis protocol cobbled together from widely available drugs 3) a functional system for contact tracing and proactive testing
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:It’s very funny to me that the Mormons I know are being BY FAR the most prepared, calm, and compassionate about this while the Protestants and Catholics I know are gripped in shivering shaking delusion and fear because they don’t actually believe any of the poo poo they pretend to for social cohesion. apocalyptic survival is part of the Mormon belief system. they intend to inherit the earth through disaster preparation and organization.
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is there any doubt that China is underreporting (along with most if not all other countries due to a wide variety of reasons)?
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brugroffil posted:is there any doubt that China is underreporting (along with most if not all other countries due to a wide variety of reasons)? they are, but it doesn't really matter American government is trying extremely hard to leverage blame on China to avoid culpability once this finishes running through the population. they have the foresight to do that but not to prepare the country for this 
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hepatizon posted:The current measures are absolutely better than nothing. My prediction is 0.5-4 million deaths. I think 0.5m is achievable if we get 2/3 of: 1) is wholly partisan and impossible here 2) will only happen if they can use it to pump ppl full of mabs every yr to make corona debt the new college debt 3) is just a pipe dream
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Well I was skeptical at first to be honest, but we are only 850 deaths away from hitting 5,000 by tonight and that confirms the 3 day doubling rate... So perhaps it will be 10,000 by Saturday night.
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brugroffil posted:is there any doubt that China is underreporting (along with most if not all other countries due to a wide variety of reasons)? They no longer have exponential growth so they've won and the cases might as well be zero vs here where they might as well be infinite
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More money in healthcare? no, bad politicians are ready to use this to put more money in control and weapons.
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IAMKOREA posted:lol American journalism is literally just state propaganda So neoliberal that even our Minitrue is loving provatized.
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hepatizon posted:The current measures are absolutely better than nothing. My prediction is 0.5-4 million deaths. I think 0.5m is achievable if we get 2/3 of: ok so 4 million deaths then
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Zyme posted:If anything this seems optimistic? When you reach the peak you still have to go down the other side.
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IAMKOREA posted:lol American journalism is literally just state propaganda most of the time
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old beast lunatic posted:Just imagine the Picard facepalm that happened when the first medical professional inspected Elon's truckload of ventilators. lmao <tries to smile while holding DVD copy of Atlantic Rim> "Just what I wanted"
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Why is there what appears to be a suburban subdivision immediately next to the core downtown area. Is this a Sim City game? That is a public housing project (Clayton Homes) next to Downtown Houston
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that one picture where the dude is struggling to figure out which button to push and one says: 1,000,000 ventilators during an influenza pandemic and the other says: 1 F-35
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