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i say swears online posted:oh my god dan carlin just put out a new Common Sense for the first time in years, since trump broke his brain thats the same guy?? he sounds rly different without whatever the usual mic/processing setup etc was that he used during the episodes i listened to long ago.
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Xaris posted:tbf it's true. i haven't really listened to anything including citations needed, cum, chapo, dick wolff, trillbilly, etc in like 3 weeks (i called out sick the week of the 8th and then the shelter order came in). i really cannot listen to podcasts at home at a desk for some reason, most of my time came from biking to the train station, riding the train, and walking to the office and visa-versa for 1 hr a day. i like the trillbillies because they make pretty plain how they're doing as people week to week and its nice and human. terance's mindset in particular vibes with me because i most closely relate to his up/down cycling between optimism and nihilism and feeling crazy overall. i dunno where this world is going. 
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Apr 1, 2020 10:20
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Pizza Segregationist posted:I heard that john mcafee is so weird online because he was forced out of the company he founded and he’s trying to hurt their reputation out of spite Eh, I find that extremely hard to believe. I don't think you'd (maybe) kill your neighbor, do meth and run from the IRS out of spite. Also, McAfee produces virus scanner, software that is useless snake oil no one needs. They didn't need to do anything to ruin their reputation.
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Apr 1, 2020 10:31
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V. Illych L. posted:data generation is clearly labour in the sense of being surplus value-generating activity which is an arena of exploitation, i.e. i sell my life to facebook for access to its services, which is necessarily exploitative - we're paying for the service with our activity and essentially our self-commodification a couple pages back, but what surplus being generated on this? who is paying for my data which ammounts to what, oh he's a drunk messenger guy! I understand companies like fb and google dumping and burning money for the sole purpose to become the landlords of some service, kinda like how you cannot do ads and other services without google, at all
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Apr 1, 2020 10:52
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i say swears online posted:oh my god dan carlin just put out a new Common Sense for the first time in years, since trump broke his brain y'all skip to 1:02:20 he is a child
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Apr 1, 2020 10:54
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i say swears online posted:y'all skip to 1:02:20 i hope to god we get another helping when 500k people die lol
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Apr 1, 2020 11:04
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Apr 1, 2020 11:05
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Honest Thief posted:a couple pages back, but what surplus being generated on this? who is paying for my data which ammounts to what, oh he's a drunk messenger guy! the commodity being produced is really diffuse, but not necessarily more so than other input industries like ore mining or whatever - through your interaction with e.g. Facebook you're effectively doing labour (relaxed, fairly pleasant labour but labour nonetheless) in the same way as a guy following you around and noting what you're doing is doing labour. you're generating a ton of data which is then sold on to whoever wants it or processed into some other form which has perceived use-value, typically in predicting and controlling people's behaviour the commodity form of personal data is targetted advertisement and relative advantage in the marketplace, or if you want to tinfoil a bit, social control on the part of the bourgeois political economy whether it actually *has* this sort of value remains to be seen, but capital absolutely thinks it does
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Apr 1, 2020 11:06
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but do keep in mind that there's a lot of incredibly useless commodities being sold, doesn't mean that they're not extracting surplus value in their production
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Homeless Friend posted:BRING ME THE ADULTS at the very end of the episode he defends communist yugoslavia and names albania as one of the member states
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Apr 1, 2020 11:13
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what is dan carlin's point? I listened to 15 mins and he hasn't said anything whatsoever other than some vague disease, am I supposed to be projecting my poo poo into this speech?V. Illych L. posted:the commodity being produced is really diffuse, but not necessarily more so than other input industries like ore mining or whatever - through your interaction with e.g. Facebook you're effectively doing labour (relaxed, fairly pleasant labour but labour nonetheless) in the same way as a guy following you around and noting what you're doing is doing labour. you're generating a ton of data which is then sold on to whoever wants it or processed into some other form which has perceived use-value, typically in predicting and controlling people's behaviour I can understand that insofar as how people might value it, but it seems a scam. The data isnt really that valuable, even if you discard the useless noise from it. It really seems just a entry cost for targetted ads and ownership of marketplace. We can see facebook's impact with the recent election cycles, but that wasn't so much due to data analysis, it's because they're the single player in the game for a large audience. I understand that they got to that station because they sold that data, but wtf eventually capital will have to realise "hey we keep buying the same data over and over and over.." V. Illych L. posted:but do keep in mind that there's a lot of incredibly useless commodities being sold, doesn't mean that they're not extracting surplus value in their production I mean.. I guess
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Apr 1, 2020 11:17
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Honest Thief posted:what is dan carlin's point? I listened to 15 mins and he hasn't said anything whatsoever other than some vague disease, am I supposed to be projecting my poo poo into this speech? if it turns out that the use-value wasn't there, eventually the market is going to collapse. in the meantime, zuckerberg has become a billionaire off the exploitation of his userbase
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Apr 1, 2020 11:35
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Honest Thief posted:what is dan carlin's point? I listened to 15 mins and he hasn't said anything whatsoever other than some vague disease, am I supposed to be projecting my poo poo into this speech? listening to the whole thing the gist I got was "we should go back to pre 9/11 decorum politics and walter cronkite reporting or we'll weimar republic/fall of the roman republic ourselves" which is what pretty much every common sense has been about the difference here is he only gets to that for about 15 minutes in short bursts and the other hour's worth is dan trying to convince himself that's possible and failing
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Apr 1, 2020 12:24
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Maduo posted:the difference here is he only gets to that for about 15 minutes in short bursts and the other hour's worth is dan trying to convince himself that's possible and failing this is a good summary
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Apr 1, 2020 12:33
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I really liked his series on world war 1 and his unfinished history of imperial japan but just from those two series I already knew not to put any stock whatsoever in his personal political beliefs.
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Apr 1, 2020 12:33
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This is the only good April Fools twitter rebrand https://twitter.com/GunsAintRight/status/1245348467431571456?s=20
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Homeless Friend posted:It's pretty loving funny how lost he is, he has no hope of getting a solid grasp on how the world works and it shows lol well yeah dan carlin is a libertarian
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Apr 1, 2020 18:46
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I assume some has to have mixed the chapo commentary with the Star Wars audio right?
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Apr 1, 2020 19:14
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lancemantis posted:I assume some has to have mixed the chapo commentary with the Star Wars audio right? It's not, but this one is actually pretty easy to sync on your own.
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Apr 1, 2020 19:19
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Gripweed posted:This is the only good April Fools twitter rebrand Otto, despite being a bus driver, does not have the prerequisite license on his driver's license.
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Apr 1, 2020 19:21
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MizPiz posted:It's not, but this one is actually pretty easy to sync on your own. it took me about five minutes to figure out that Overcast's smart speed feature was loving up the sync
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Apr 1, 2020 19:44
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V. Illych L. posted:the commodity being produced is really diffuse, but not necessarily more so than other input industries like ore mining or whatever - through your interaction with e.g. Facebook you're effectively doing labour (relaxed, fairly pleasant labour but labour nonetheless) in the same way as a guy following you around and noting what you're doing is doing labour. you're generating a ton of data which is then sold on to whoever wants it or processed into some other form which has perceived use-value, typically in predicting and controlling people's behaviour I believe that according to the labour theory of value as posited by Marx the tasks performed by managers may be useful to the capitalist but it is non-productive in the sense that it doesn't create any additional value.
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Apr 1, 2020 19:45
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Helsing posted:I believe that according to the labour theory of value as posited by Marx the tasks performed by managers may be useful to the capitalist but it is non-productive in the sense that it doesn't create any additional value. from what i understand people don't care that much about being that extremely orthodox about it anymore because that definition of value also means retail workers dont' contribute value to things.
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papa horny michael posted:https://twitter.com/AnthonyHennig/status/1245432190458003457?s=19 I heard the flop house guys in an ad for their show while listening to ross and carrie and i'm completely baffled anyone willingly listens to them. that one guy (you know who i mean) sounds like a voice actor doing an impression of a nerd on a saturday morning cartoon
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Hooplah posted:I heard the flop house guys in an ad for their show while listening to ross and carrie and i'm completely baffled anyone willingly listens to them. that one guy (you know who i mean) sounds like a voice actor doing an impression of a nerd on a saturday morning cartoon Every commercial for a podcast I've ever heard, even commercials for podcasts I've listened to and know are good, make the podcast sound like completely unlistenable garbage.
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Apr 1, 2020 21:28
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lancemantis posted:I assume some has to have mixed the chapo commentary with the Star Wars audio right? lol if you can't perfectly see all the prequels in you mind palace from memory
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Apr 1, 2020 21:29
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Hooplah posted:I heard the flop house guys in an ad for their show while listening to ross and carrie and i'm completely baffled anyone willingly listens to them. that one guy (you know who i mean) sounds like a voice actor doing an impression of a nerd on a saturday morning cartoon hah hah yeah. i mean, all podcasting ads are pretty bad. i like the flop house show, despite the hosts. but would never tell people to listen to anything other than cum town
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papa horny michael posted:https://twitter.com/AnthonyHennig/status/1245432190458003457?s=19 he'll be carving the days into his walls in no time
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Gripweed posted:I remember Will once saying that they were in the "making people's commutes bearable" business and lmao he wasn't lying oh poo poo haha
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Apr 2, 2020 00:05
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papa horny michael posted:hah hah yeah. i mean, all podcasting ads are pretty bad. i like the flop house show, despite the hosts. but would never tell people to listen to anything other than cum town a cum town ad that was just 30 seconds of stav cackling would rule
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Amber was so right about lib Fems turning every tragedy to really being about them. Also listening to Chapo made me realize what Matt’s problem outside of huge depression is. And this also helps cause his depression. He cannot truly consider what Amber and Feelix definitely have. That electoralism is a fools errand and that Socialism can come to America but not through the ballot box.
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that’s normally Matt’s position and has been from the beginning of the pod. he started to slip a bit because Bernie looked so good for a few weeks, but he’ll be back
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is that the one where tim allen wrestles a nuke off of a plane and they had to delay the release of the movie because of 9/11 that was great it had hit men just nonchalantly walking assault weapons through airport security and easily bamboozling the TSA with the suitcase nuke
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:is that the one where tim allen wrestles a nuke off of a plane and they had to delay the release of the movie because of 9/11 it's the movie where you have John Candy and Dan Aykroyd as these things. 
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:is that the one where tim allen wrestles a nuke off of a plane and they had to delay the release of the movie because of 9/11 No it's the one featuring the first film appearance of Tupac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSt6a0_pkzs
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uber_stoat posted:it's the movie where you have John Candy and Dan Aykroyd as these things.
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