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Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

show bobs and 5G

# ? Apr 1, 2020 18:29

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# ? May 24, 2024 00:40

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

I mean why wouldn�t there be Japanese Qanon

It�s about as comprehensible as any anime plot

# ? Apr 1, 2020 19:04

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mistle posted:

Doughnut holes were a specific financial spot where your combined health insurance/independent drugs insurance would help pay for meds, but after a certain point, you had to pay more for them.

lovely explanation ahoy:

Step 1: You front your paltry cash "Start of year" cost for anything/everything, step 2 achieved

Step 2: Both you and drugs insurance put money toward meds, generally this is generous in your favor, because you're paying 15 bucks for your $300 insulin Rx pickup. Both your spending and their spending goes in a bucket to achieve step 3
That bucket is filled in three months with this $300-a-month insulin, BTW, less if you have other meds

Step 3: Company+you paid out X monies and there's A LIMIT YOU REACHED, now you have a steep increase to cost until step 4. Remember that $300 insulin? Remember that $15 to pick it up? It's now $60 a pickup(per month), you
Step 3 is what the olds called "doughnut hole" because it was a loving hole in part D(D for doughnut) coverage

Step 4: Only after you paid some obscene number( I think medicare capped it at 5200?) out of your pocket in total will you reach this step, and it's where you paid out some 5200 in a year. At this point, you get the "extremely poor people's rates" for meds, and even then, it's more than that $15 a pickup; closer to 30

And get this: next year, January 1st, this bullshit resets and you get to do it all over again

P.S. If you gently caress up this process, you're on the hook for the full price, you have to jump through hoops to get it recognized as "applies to drugs insurance", and until it's settled, it's entirely on your dime

P.P.S. Some things applied to this, some things did not; hospital meds weren't drugs meds, OTC didn't count, Rx versions of OTC were the same price as OTC, but the drugs insurance was more than happy to pay for those cheap fuckers in full up front(and apply that to loving your doughnut hole later) and certain expensive meds(everything you see commercials for) were in a category where you got hole-gently caress rates from the get-go, because there was no generic to side-effect your cheap rear end

Those "holes" are still open and wide as gently caress, mostly because profitable rates mean patients are going to get stuck paying more for the brand names without generic alternatives, and more than a few of those generics just don't work the same/as well: migraine medicine is basically aspirin/acetaminophen with caffeine, but the generic is someone putting that "pure energy" powdered caffeine on your generic pain reliever and "it's the same thing "

Sorry for the rant, it's an industry that really does throw stolen money at all their problems, and that money doesn't actually get to solving the problems, just burying the problems until their estate calls to close shop

Ill intentions directed toward the harmonious country!

I bask in a sane version socialism. Had no idea it had rolled back that far. Dumb poo poo is if US went universal you would likely pay half that per person and you won't notice it as it would be tax, not a poo poo stained invoice. Vote Bernie if you want to live.

Good luck getting past the idiots screaming tax is theft, 1950 socialism and MAH FREEDOM. Embrace the freedom to pick a publicly funded road side ditch to die by the sweat of your brow.

I have no idea what the medical bill from CCPflu is as there has been no media coverage from that angle. Person is better now! Disappears out the door never to be heard from again.

# ? Apr 1, 2020 21:28

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

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What Do Chinese People Think Of The Recent Ban On Foreigners?
Photo from Weibo post (in Chinese) on barring foreigners from entry: �The impact it has on me is that I won�t have to keep putting on protective gear every day.�

This article is adapted from Zhihu Digest, where author Thomas Garbarini examines each day�s top question on social media Q&A site Zhihu.com.

On March 28 the top question on Zhihu was, �What do you think of the recent ban on foreigners into China? What ramifications will this have?�

Below are some of the most upvoted answers to this question (all links in Chinese):

One of the top-voted answers with 9K upvotes is from a doctor who says, �The impact it has on me is that I won�t have to keep putting on protective gear every day.� He goes on to say that even though many medical workers in Wuhan are now recuperating, they are still battling the virus, and since the coronavirus is now breaking out overseas, more people entering China could mean more infections.

An answer with 11K upvotes says, �We should have done this a long time ago.� They go on to criticize the alliances of Western countries like America, who banned entry from many EU countries, Germany, who seized Swiss masks, Italy, who seized Swiss disinfectant, and so on. They single out citizens from small countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America, saying that they are the ones least vigilant about the virus, and yet they come to China in the greatest numbers.

An answer with 9K upvotes comes from a Chinese person living in Australia. He strongly supports this policy, stating that it cost China a lot to defeat the threat of the coronavirus. He sees the pandemic as an excellent opportunity for China�s great revival because China will be able to resume its supply chains and production while the economies of the rest of the world are paralyzed. He also notes that now is a great time for many talented overseas Chinese to return to the motherland. In addition, he echoes a sentiment from the poster above, saying that China shouldn�t worry about trivialities and instead use the most severe measures possible to help the Chinese people and economy. The comments to this answer devolve into arguments about how many overseas Chinese don�t obey quarantine measures when they return to China.

An answer with 3K upvotes states that now, since China hasn�t seen any new cases for several days in a row, it is possibly one of the safest countries in the world at the moment, and this safety came at a great cost. If infected foreigners start pouring into China, all of China�s efforts would have been in vain. One of this answer�s comments reads, �China�s students and its economy can�t be put on hold any longer.�

An answer with 2K upvotes mentions the deplorable behavior of some foreigners coming into China who don�t know their place, run about everywhere, hold parties, conceal their symptoms, complain about their quarantine conditions, and go jogging outside. Many of these refer to recent stories in China, such as an Australian Chinese who was deported for refusing to stay in her home in Beijing because she wanted to go for a run, and the English husband of a Chinese woman who refused to self-quarantine in his community�s empty senior citizen recreation room. He also states that 10% of imported infections are from non-Chinese citizens, so this will reduce the pressure of customs officials to check incoming passengers.

Finally, a common sentiment in many of the answers and comments is mocking Chinese people who changed their citizenship. One comment with 2K upvotes reads, �This is the first time since the Tang dynasty that Chinese people are aware of the value of their citizenship� This is also the first time we haven�t treated foreigners as better than Chinese. We are prioritizing the treatment of our own people now. No matter what the cause was, or how many unforeseen factors were involved, this is a step in the right direction in any case.�

I�ve tried to be as impartial as possible by only including the most upvoted comments, as I believe this should most accurately reflect common sentiment. There are, of course, some people with more extreme views, but they didn�t usually have more than 200 upvotes, so I didn�t include them. Also, I went pretty far down the page and I couldn�t see anybody with a dissenting opinion or offering a different take on this.

# ? Apr 1, 2020 22:20

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

If they want to build the wall, pay for it and stay inside more power to them. Disconnect China from the internet as well.

:lol:

believing in CCP propaganda. It's really flying over their heads why everyone is increasingly hostile to China.

# ? Apr 1, 2020 22:33

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Right now people are really scared and really stupid and Trump has been his usual lovely self. It's not a surprise people are more receptive to CCP propaganda both inside and outside China right now.

Especially since Trump is so poo poo and has managed to turn the fact that China is responsible for the pandemic into a partisan statement by trying to use it to cover his own failures.

Hopefully when this passes people will look back on it with clearer eyes.

# ? Apr 1, 2020 22:54

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

You do always have to keep in mind with that stuff that it is The Internet, and the internet makes you stupid in any country. I miss the network of sites that used to translate popular social media stories and comments from China/Korea/Japan, it was interesting.

# ? Apr 1, 2020 23:08

Kharnifex: Sep 11, 2001; The Banter is better in AusGBS

Now that the passport fee has been waived, I've noticed a poo poo tonne of Chinese bot/scam accounts on tinder

# ? Apr 1, 2020 23:19

BrigadierSensible: Feb 16, 2012; I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Kharnifex posted:

Now that the passport fee has been waived, I've noticed a poo poo tonne of Chinese bot/scam accounts on tinder

I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but what sort of scams?

"please marry me and get me out of this lovely country and give me a green card!" style scams? Catfishing? "I am but a poor chinese peasant with huge tits, please throw money at me!" style scams?

Or is it CCP propaganda? Which seems odd to me on a site where people generally show dickpics and are trying to gently caress.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 02:02

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

Waifus for lonely shut-in men that have at least a month to set up a 419 scam.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 02:18

poopnanners: May 3, 2016; hey guys lets party

The kids in my neighborhood have taken to calling out (in Chinese) "virus man" along with "foreigner" when I walk by. I think it's pretty funny.

The braver ones sometimes approach my friend and me with a "HALLOOO" or “你好” to which he responds (in English) "Get the gently caress away from me."

A few days ago some local white teachers complained that they were denied access to Wal-Mart (lol). They were going on and on about the discriminaaaaaatioooooon. These morons are only here because they are white. They absolutely lost their poo poo at this injustice. English teachers love to complain.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 02:29

Fur20: Nov 14, 2007; すご▞い！
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね！

poopnanners posted:

English teachers love to complain.

i know right? where's my paycheck! i'm stuck in a foreign country that my home country closed its borders to! i can't afford to live on my savings for this long! how am i going to eat this month

bunch of loving complainers

# ? Apr 2, 2020 02:47

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

The White Dragon posted:

i know right? where's my paycheck! i'm stuck in a foreign country that my home country closed its borders to! i can't afford to live on my savings for this long! how am i going to eat this month

bunch of loving complainers

The fact that there are still westerners in China is :psyduck:

# ? Apr 2, 2020 03:04

Barudak: May 7, 2007

A beautiful world with beautiful places to visit

Barudak fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jun 28, 2021

# ? Apr 2, 2020 03:08

poopnanners: May 3, 2016; hey guys lets party

The White Dragon posted:

i know right? where's my paycheck! i'm stuck in a foreign country that my home country closed its borders to! i can't afford to live on my savings for this long! how am i going to eat this month

bunch of loving complainers

Which countries are not currently allowing their own citizens to return?

I was thinking more along the lines of, "My school gave me a paid four day weekend before Christmas but expects me to work on Christmas! THE 23RD IS NOT CHRISTMAS THE 24TH IS NOT CHRISTMAS WHAT AM I GONNA TELL MY KIDS???"

Or, "I, a kindergarten teacher, am not going to participate my class's Halloween party because Halloween is Satan's birthday. Why doesn't anyone like me?"

# ? Apr 2, 2020 03:17

Fur20: Nov 14, 2007; すご▞い！
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね！

poopnanners posted:

Which countries are not currently allowing their own citizens to return?

it's currently hard to get back to america from continental east asia and some EU countries even if you're a citizen afaik

port's closed bby

that said halloween boycotter would have a hard time anywhere in the world except perhaps arkansas and they'd be doing it regardless of their line of work and also asking the same "why does nobody like me" question lol

Fur20 fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Apr 2, 2020

# ? Apr 2, 2020 03:27

Shrimp or Shrimps: Feb 14, 2012

poopnanners posted:

A few days ago some local white teachers complained that they were denied access to Wal-Mart (lol). They were going on and on about the discriminaaaaaatioooooon. These morons are only here because they are white. They absolutely lost their poo poo at this injustice. English teachers love to complain.

There's this thing going on in HK where because "westerners" were a little slow on the uptake while locals went straight to defcon1 re mask wearing, and some definitely wanted to continue being exceptional and either just the fluing it or engaging in well ackshually masks don't work :smug:

hill dying, it's become something of a local meme that essentially white people don't wear masks.

Cue largely maskless expat communities being photographed and put on the front of newspaper and other silly things, and now people are talking about being discriminated against.

Anyway, I read a comment where some lady was like, while lamenting feeling singled out, "this is the first time I've ever been on the ugly side of racism"

I spit my coffee out.

Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Apr 2, 2020

# ? Apr 2, 2020 03:38

Dandywalken: Feb 11, 2014

When this is over, the world will applaud and cheer for China.

Hell, I just might start right now!

# ? Apr 2, 2020 03:39

Ailumao: Nov 4, 2004

Porfiriato posted:

Mind posting that? I'm elsewhere in China but haven't gotten anything from the local consulate. Kinda wondering why they're advising Americans to GTFO now and flee back to Trump's Post-Apocalyptic Coronavirus Wasteland^TM just when China seems to maybe, possibly finally have a handle on things.

tbh its not much different than the same emails they sent out in Feb and earlier in March, this one was just weirdly timed and seemed more strongly worded. They had been emailing us every few weeks with updates but they all had a general tone of "if you don't need to travel or be in china/korea/japan/etc... consider coming back as flights will be harder to come by" which felt normal. This was the first one I saw that was like "you should leave right now".

us shanghai consulate posted:

The government of the People�s Republic of China has implemented enhanced screening and quarantine measures to reduce the spread of COVID-19. Effective March 28, 2020, China has suspended entry into the PRC by foreign nationals holding visas or residence permits, and effective March 29, significantly reduced the number of flights that can enter or exit the PRC. Travelers should be prepared for additional travel restrictions to be put into effect with little or no advance notice.

Those currently in China should attempt to depart by commercial means. U.S. citizens remaining in China should follow the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Chinese health authorities� guidance for prevention, signs and symptoms, and treatment. We strongly urge U.S. citizens remaining in China to stay home as much as possible and limit contact with others, including large gatherings. Consider stocking up on food and other supplies to limit movement outside the home. In the event that the situation deteriorates further, the ability of the U.S. Embassy and Consulates to provide assistance to U.S. nationals within China may be limited.

The bolded part is what I hadn't seen before. Basically every email they've sent since it started has had the italicized part word for word so I barely even register it anymore. I can buy all the toilet paper i want atm.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 04:02

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I wonder when will the dam break on how many CCPflu deaths in China.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 04:49

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Anybody who looks at China's data even half-critically should be able to tell it's obvious bullshit but Chinese data keeps on getting cited :sigh:

edit: China claims that it's all been contained and only Hubei had a significant outbreak, ie China claims that the virus that has spread like wildfire across every continent and made its way to pretty much ever urban are on the planet miraculously spared everywhere in China that isn't Hubei

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Apr 2, 2020

# ? Apr 2, 2020 04:51

Dandywalken: Feb 11, 2014

oohhboy posted:

I wonder when will the dam break on how many CCPflu deaths in China.

Never, imo.

We're going to have people disputing numbers in every country I imagine

# ? Apr 2, 2020 04:53

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Maybe I live in some sort of charmed bubble, but right now things are... not obviously bad?

Awaiting with obvious interest the impact of second-wave work-return infections, and first-wave public-school-return infections, but so far things seem to be within the scope of available healthcare.

Foreigners are keeping their heads down, because catching a foreigner being apparently obnoxious on video is your key to millions of views online.
Not that there's a shortage of actually obnoxious foreigners, of course.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 05:08

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Atopian posted:

Maybe I live in some sort of charmed bubble, but right now things are... not obviously bad?

If the standards are "not literally the black death with corpses lining the streets" then things aren't really "obviously" bad anywhere outside of major hospitals.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 05:12

Shrimp or Shrimps: Feb 14, 2012

There was this: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3078010/chinese-county-goes-coronavirus-lockdown-country-tries-get-back

# ? Apr 2, 2020 05:27

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Fojar38 posted:

If the standards are "not literally the black death with corpses lining the streets" then things aren't really "obviously" bad anywhere outside of major hospitals.

Sure, but I mean even in local chatter, etc.
People love to pick up even the slightest hints of scandal because a significant chunk of the population here absolutely do not trust the government's word on pretty much anything. But... nothing much.
Current discussion is mainly about the Hubei/Jiangxi drama, and how Shanghai can't get stuff fully controlled because continuing inflow of people plus metropolis.

But those wouldn't be topics if there were something more local to gossip about.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 05:35

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

There was this: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3078010/chinese-county-goes-coronavirus-lockdown-country-tries-get-back

Ouch. Yeah, Henan was fighting for viral second place after Hubei, going to be quite a bit of that.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 05:37

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

There was this: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3078010/chinese-county-goes-coronavirus-lockdown-country-tries-get-back

# ? Apr 2, 2020 06:03

LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

The White Dragon posted:

i know right? where's my paycheck! i'm stuck in a foreign country that my home country closed its borders to! i can't afford to live on my savings for this long! how am i going to eat this month

bunch of loving complainers

This but unironically

# ? Apr 2, 2020 06:04

hakimashou: Jul 15, 2002; Upset Trowel

Alan Smithee posted:

I mean why wouldn�t there be Japanese Qanon

It�s about as comprehensible as any anime plot

Im not super surprised they have modern crazy

in the past you had samurai communist killer

poet-novelist-model failed emperor coup and seppuku

and of course crazy nerve gas death cult

# ? Apr 2, 2020 06:31

Tarantula: Nov 4, 2009; No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.

To break up some of the coronoa chat, I just finished romance of the three kingdoms, well I did skip like 20 chapters. Holy hell that was a test of patience, yea there was some cool as hell stuff like the Daoist monk haunting Cao Cao got a good laugh out of me, and Kong Ming should have aspired to be Emperor, but otherwise it was so dam repetitive.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 06:32

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

look it's about the worldbuilding okay

# ? Apr 2, 2020 06:33

Lazyhound: Mar 1, 2004; A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

Which translation is best?

# ? Apr 2, 2020 06:48

Tarantula: Nov 4, 2009; No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.

Alan Smithee posted:

look it's about the worldbuilding okay

A world where swearing oaths under peach trees is not a thing is a world I don't want to live in.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 07:10

Kharnifex: Sep 11, 2001; The Banter is better in AusGBS

BrigadierSensible posted:

I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but what sort of scams?

"please marry me and get me out of this lovely country and give me a green card!" style scams? Catfishing? "I am but a poor chinese peasant with huge tits, please throw money at me!" style scams?

Or is it CCP propaganda? Which seems odd to me on a site where people generally show dickpics and are trying to gently caress.

No, add me to line or WeChat or WhatsApp,

Hi, I run an investment company blah blah blah

# ? Apr 2, 2020 10:12

Beartaco: Apr 10, 2007; by sebmojo

Are there any good articles worth reading about WHO's relationship with the CCP?

# ? Apr 2, 2020 13:17

Shaman Tank Spec: Dec 26, 2003; *blep*

Kharnifex posted:

No, add me to line or WeChat or WhatsApp,

Hi, I run an investment company blah blah blah

I have about 60 friend requests on Steam from people with incomprehensible Chinese names. I used to have more, but I purged the entire list of pending requests a few weeks ago. They're clearly after something in my Steam inventory, but I have no idea what Team Fortress 2 hat or DOTA 2 courier I own that is in such massive demand in China all of a sudden.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 13:19

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Beartaco posted:

Are there any good articles worth reading about WHO's relationship with the CCP?

This is the only one that matters...

Blistex posted:

The WHO has to report it's member state donations, and publish them. As of Feb 29, 2020, here are the stats: https://www.who.int/about/finances-accountability/funding/AC_Status_Report_2020.pdf?ua=1

Here are the top three pledges in USD:

United States: 99,128,271
China (PRC): 29,323,023
Japan: 20,918,146

I'm guessing that the Chinese donations are reliant on the WHO following certain "standards" that China has set.

Also

# ? Apr 2, 2020 17:23

Ugly In The Morning: Jul 1, 2010; Pillbug

Blistex posted:

This is the only one that matters...

Also

Don�t forget WHO Endorses Traditional Chinese Medicine, expect deaths to rise.

TCM isn�t even vaguely medicine, it�s basically pure insanity.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 17:29

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# ? May 24, 2024 00:40

LimburgLimbo: Feb 10, 2008

Blistex posted:

This is the only one that matters...

Also

Note he also made mention in the next sentence of how Taiwan has done fantastically at controlling outbreaks but you can�t talk about it because China will throw a fit.

# ? Apr 2, 2020 17:38

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