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How is Westchester county majority Mexican (latinx wise)? That genuinely shocks me. Like I'd expect either Rican like most of the Tri-State (CT's latinx population is massively Puerto Rican, even if not especially farther away from NYC). Or I'd expect Central American groups based off time I've spent in Port Chester.
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I'm surprised that so many Puerto Ricans went to Hawaii. It's a big distance to go. Unless somehow they're brought closer together by having to deal with the Jones Act, and it's easier to go somewhere that's used to dealing with workarounds to it rather than go straight to another US port with no stopovers. I'm not surprised that the majority of them come from Mexico, but I do have my suspicions that there's a lot of people not caring to give accurate information. That's the thing about mass oppression of ethnic groups, they tend to be less willing to give accurate information for lack of trust. Most of them are documented in various places, but a lot of that information is purposefully left disorganized. Latinx also makes them sound like wildcats.
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That matches my experience with northern New Mexico - most don't consider themselves Mexican, Latinx, etc., they consider themselves Spanish.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'm surprised that so many Puerto Ricans went to Hawaii. It's a big distance to go. Unless somehow they're brought closer together by having to deal with the Jones Act, and it's easier to go somewhere that's used to dealing with workarounds to it rather than go straight to another US port with no stopovers. It's the military, I'm pretty sure. The cluster of PR-heavy counties in Virginia match up to local Army installations and Norfolk Naval Base.
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From the NYT e:zoom-able Count Roland fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Apr 2, 2020 |
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Apr 2, 2020 13:43
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I'm beginning to wonder if we'll see sharp regional differences in casualties by the time Covid-19 runs it's course
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Count Roland posted:From the NYT Obviously I've been focusing more on my own country's response to this, but is there any reason that the lease densely populated states on the great plains seem to have acted first? Surely they are going to be less affected?
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Kulkasha posted:I'm beginning to wonder if we'll see sharp regional differences in casualties by the time Covid-19 runs it's course Almost certainly, although note that a comfortable majority of the south is gonna be in the non-red areas.
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Count Roland posted:From the NYT I would have thought people in rural Montana would have to travel at least 2 miles just to take a poo poo.
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How'd they get the data and determine those dates?
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Apr 2, 2020 15:51
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Some correlation to this map:
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Apr 2, 2020 16:32
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Count Roland posted:From the NYT This means literally nothing at all. We were never told to "not travel more than 2 miles" and its possible to live 2 miles or more from the nearest grocery store or any other essential service. Just seems to be an LMAO THE SOUTH map from NYT
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Apr 2, 2020 16:42
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Yes but have you considered, LMAO THE SOUTH?
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poo poo you're right
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Nazzadan posted:This means literally nothing at all. We were never told to "not travel more than 2 miles" and its possible to live 2 miles or more from the nearest grocery store or any other essential service. Just seems to be an LMAO THE SOUTH map from NYT Except even the rural parts of blue states stopped travelling so much, or just look at the sparsely populated western states.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Except even the rural parts of blue states stopped travelling so much, or just look at the sparsely populated western states. But it's nothing data. Yeah the red states are handling this about as poorly as possible but it's a totally arbitrary "2 miles traveled" statistic when that's something we were NEVER told to account for
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Apr 2, 2020 17:12
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The south has both bad infrastructure and terrible state governments dominated by shitheads who are either trying to stay aligned with Trump or being heavily influenced by the people who are willing to kill a million people to keep the stock market going.
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Apr 2, 2020 17:21
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I live inside the beltway in Northern Virginia and it's more than 2 miles to either of the two closest grocery stores for me...
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Nazzadan posted:I don't see anyone on the current page saying the south is taking this seriously or handling it responsibly. I didn’t say that either if you wanna play that game. Here’s the actual article about the map: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/02/us/coronavirus-social-distancing.html It’s not saying that people were told to stop traveling 2 miles or even that they should. My suspicion is that they chose that number because it made for the most detail on the map. Before the coronavirus, the average American had the nearest grocery store around 2 miles from their house but travelled 4 miles on average. Also the other info in that article shows that even the worst counties still had big changes in travel patterns. It’s not a particularly interesting map even in the context of the article and completely useless without it Edit gently caress i edited instead of quoting ahhhhh this app sucks Starks fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Apr 2, 2020 |
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I don't see anyone on the current page saying the south is taking this seriously or handling it responsibly. None of anything you just posted has anything to do with the Kemp tweet you posted originally so I guess I'm just confused but we agree I guess? Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Apr 2, 2020 |
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Apr 2, 2020 17:42
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The south is taking something seriously and handling it responsibly:
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Nazzadan posted:I don't see anyone on the current page saying the south is taking this seriously or handling it responsibly. Yeah my bad i edited the original post by accident when I thought I was making a new one. This was the tweet I originally posted along with a snarky comment about how the South is taking this seriously https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1245708575365894144?s=20
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Apr 2, 2020 18:15
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Tag yourself, I'm the prospector preacher throwin out the "hang loose"
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Smeef posted:I would have thought people in rural Montana would have to travel at least 2 miles just to take a poo poo. western states tend to be heavily urbanized because you either live in/near some kind of city or town, or you live in an extremely rural nowhere area the southern states tends to be pretty sprawly because they've had sustained population growth and sprawl growth over the last 5+ decades
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or uhhhhh https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/1245710184917487617
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Doesn't correlate well with East Kentucky and WV for some reason.
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Apr 2, 2020 19:16
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Why would not having a car correlate to more travel
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Starks posted:Why would not having a car correlate to more travel you can't really stock up on supplies as heavily if you have to carry everything
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Grape posted:Doesn't correlate well with East Kentucky and WV for some reason. there is some signal here. WV has a stay in place order and its neighbors do not, for instance:  .it's just drowned by the noise. Starks posted:Why would not having a car correlate to more travel people taking public transit have to travel more because it's not direct point to point? it's based on phone data iirc so there could be other correlations there too
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Apr 2, 2020 19:55
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Those don’t particularly correlate beyond “the south” if you look at the counties individually.
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Grape posted:Doesn't correlate well with East Kentucky and WV for some reason. The mountains are some horseshoe theory where its so isolated people are already used to getting their grocery shopping done in one huge rear end trip.
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Apr 2, 2020 22:38
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That map correlates well to rural black populations. The cities, and dense areas around the Mississippi excepted. Also up on the eastern seaboard. Distance to a grocery store makes some sense, but doesn't add up over the whole nation. No grocery store and no car lines up pretty well but as was pointed out is strange to correlate with longer distance travel. For cities to be excepted is maybe odd-- sprawling, poor suburbs I think could easily have no grocery stores within 2 miles. How the data collected is a real question. I don't know how far it is to my grocery store. And what if I get my food from some smaller shop like a corner store, do I count that, or some more distant store?
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Obviously I've been focusing more on my own country's response to this, but is there any reason that the lease densely populated states on the great plains seem to have acted first? Surely they are going to be less affected? Just saw this, but it's not the states reacting that you're seeing there. It's counties and cities. Republican governors are mostly in a hell pact with the religious right and the insane carousel of directives that is the Trump administration, so in other words they're basically useless. They're leaving it to the local governments. In that context it makes sense. Like look at where I grew up in northwest Texas- the dark red bits are the cities. The worst hit city by far there is Lubbock. It's around 300k people and provides all but the most basic services for all the surrounding counties in any direction. It has one big university and several smaller ones. It's red on the map. What happened was the small towns and rural communities with not much to lose got on the lockdown train as soon Bigbrains Donnie decided it was actually a threat. They had very little to lose by doing so. The small cities, however, had no guidance, a lot to lose, and republican executives. So they tried to keep things running until it became clear that wouldn't work.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Just saw this, but it's not the states reacting that you're seeing there. It's counties and cities. Republican governors are mostly in a hell pact with the religious right and the insane carousel of directives that is the Trump administration, so in other words they're basically useless. They're leaving it to the local governments. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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I get why every political person has a different reaction to the virus, a different idea as to what we should do to mitigate the effects of the virus, but it's loving insane that the right wing nutjobs are turning the actual existence of the virus into a political issue. It's here, it's happening, it's not politics!
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I get why every political person has a different reaction to the virus, a different idea as to what we should do to mitigate the effects of the virus, but it's loving insane that the right wing nutjobs are turning the actual existence of the virus into a political issue. It's here, it's happening, it's not politics! “The face‐eating leopard is an Indian hoax!” I insist, as I watch a leopard consume my neighbor’s face.
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Welcome to conservatism. Trying to stay "apolitical" was an old trick to make it easier to do academic work without arguments getting in the way, but they figured out that they could do a trick with that, since if they come into normally apolitical subjects with political arguments, nobody will be ready to argue back, and they can just reshape reality however they want. There is no solution. Politics has invaded formerly apolitical subjects, you just gotta fight it out.
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