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Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Kin posted:

Is there a decent website for totally novice people looking to grow their own veg?

I'm talking a step by step guide with links to things to buy and explanations for any and all jargon.

I basically just wanna try growing poo poo like potatoes, carrots, broccoli etc but have absolutely no idea where to begin.
It's crazy easy.

Go to Wilkos, look at the seeds and they'll say when and how to grow them.

For outdoor plants, If you have a garden or allotment make sure you weed it thoroughly. Maybe even make a raised bed with a tarp or something to protect it.

Be ready to cover them up if the weather goes cold again, or water them if there is a dry streak

Ive got a raised bed at a friend's allotment, with the edges covered in copper tape (slug deterrent) and it's doing really well

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Soylent Yellow posted:

How much land do you have?
*hovers over ukmt-kulaks.ods*

goddamnedtwisto posted:

One thing I will say is you're pretty late to be sowing anything now, make sure you check the seeds carefully to make sure you're not just wasting your time for something that will get murdered by winter before it has a chance to make a crop. Potatoes and carrots should be fine though.
Late March early April is ideal for potats. Some varieties of carrot you can even do into midsummer. I think that's probably the most sensible things to be planting as a newcomer anyway, hard to go wrong with them compared to brassicas etc.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Again, I think staying in Labour is probably a good thing for the forseeable, and sticking it out for the long haul is probably a good thing.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Josef bugman posted:

Again, I think staying in Labour is probably a good thing for the forseeable, and sticking it out for the long haul is probably a good thing.

:agreed:

There are plenty of good people in there and it is uncomradely to abandon them, IMO.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Soylent Yellow posted:

How much land do you have? Some vegetables can be grown in containers if you don't have a garden, even potatoes.

Got a pretty big back garden that we're getting done up during the summer, but i don't wanna go nuts to begin with. I've got a bad back too so was thinking an elevated planter or something like that to begin with so i can move it about after the garden's redone.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Chuck em in the dirt and water them, done.

Slightly more seriously, the instructions on the seed packets (assuming you're not going to try and go completely native) should do the trick with a bit of judicious googling - most fruit and veg is extremely tolerant of suboptimal soil conditions and general mistreatment because it's been bred to be that way. Chuck some fertiliser designed for food plants rather than flowers in there occasionally, don't let the soil get completely dry or completely waterlogged, and take precautions to keep weeds and pests away (a thin layer of gravel or broken stone over the soil when you sow will do the former (and keep moisture in over the summer), and some cheap netting and broken eggshells should keep most of the latter away).

One thing I will say is you're pretty late to be sowing anything now, make sure you check the seeds carefully to make sure you're not just wasting your time for something that will get murdered by winter before it has a chance to make a crop. Potatoes and carrots should be fine though.

That's kinda good to know. Seasonality was something i figured would be an issue but i might start prepping for next year.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

but we already have reliable hospitalisation and death stats based off of china, south korea and italy. the notion that we're undercounting by 10x-20x is a pipedream relying on a substantial number of asymptomatic cases that global medical evidence does not show. it was pushed by england's cmo to try and buy time - it does not have any scientific basis

everyone keeps wishing it's the case, but that hasn't changed reality and i strongly doubt it'll change it if we continuing wishing even harder

Well, if you assume a 3% death rate from confirmed symptomatic cases, with an exact 14 days from infection to death, then 14 days ago we had 569*33 or 18,777 infected. 18,777 multiplied by 14 days of 33% growth is 1017536 cases today, or 1.5% of the population more or less.

Obviously this is incredibly unscientific for a dozen different reasons, but I stand by my belief that there's a lot more than 600k infected in this country right now. gently caress me there's more than 600k people using the Underground every day even with the lockdown.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Yeah growing potats is so easy even I could do it. Ganbare!

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/malaiseforever/status/1245776222342307843

Starmer is going to make Ed Miliband look like a loving rabid Tasmanian devil.

Can you loving imagine these same people if Jezza came out and said "Yeah we're not gonna bother doing much of owt actually, 'cause everything's out of our hands"?

I mean you can argue about his efficacy and whether there was more he could have tried wrt: being Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition but he certainly never bunked off even the most basic criticism of government because he didn't think it'd change policy.

Also brb time to CLAP FOR THE NHS!!!!!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The loving NHS nutcases area at it again there's a lunatic with an airhorn and someone banging on a pot and people are letting off fireworks.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Ms Adequate posted:

Also brb time to CLAP FOR THE NHS!!!!!

ohhh someone's letting off fireworks for the nhs, thought it was time for the street wars

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Apparently this one's for all key workers, rather than just the NHS?

Either way people didn't really bother.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUXvrWeQU0g

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
And now all the goons grump and huffpuff about it :manning:

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUsu1R3bOvY

I've been listening to this for most of today. It kind of reminds me of a lot of old "workplace" songs.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

The loving NHS nutcases area at it again there's a lunatic with an airhorn and someone banging on a pot and people are letting off fireworks.

Same here (except it was car horns) and it's also woken up all the loving seagulls and the fireworks have set off a load of car alarms. Frankly I wish they'd do it around 11pm so I could get to sleep more easily, the quiet is really loving discombobulating for a city boy like me.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm more concerned frankly that lots of people have gone out and bought fireworks specifically for this which I don't think is helping the NHS.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


OwlFancier posted:

I think everyone needs to at least watch this one alex jones video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30

I know this is a few pages back but "pedophiles in control of the AI?" isn't a question I'd ever thought would be asked.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

oh that's what that poo poo's about is it? loving racket

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Remember when Brexit was the thing which would destroy this country?
Good times.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Kin posted:

Got a pretty big back garden that we're getting done up during the summer, but i don't wanna go nuts to begin with. I've got a bad back too so was thinking an elevated planter or something like that to begin with so i can move it about after the garden's redone.


A raised bed sounds your best bet then. They're easy as hell to make. Simply screw 4 wide planks together into a rectangle, lay cardboard on the grass to kill it, and fill with soil. Mixing in some manure if you can get it is good. Keep it narrow enough that it's easy to weed without reaching too far over.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Ms Adequate posted:

Yeah growing potats is so easy even I could do it.

If you live somewhere very wet (like western moorland) then blight may be a problem, and you will want early and resistant varieties. But otherwise yes, potatoes are easy. On the other hand they are so cheap and easy to buy, it may not be your best use of space.

If you like Jerusalem artichokes, they are the very easiest thing to grow, and hard to find in shops.

Garden organic has advice pages.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bessantj posted:

I know this is a few pages back but "pedophiles in control of the AI?" isn't a question I'd ever thought would be asked.

Well that's because you don't have sources, obviously.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

:agreed:

There are plenty of good people in there and it is uncomradely to abandon them, IMO.

Undoubtedly good people. However, for me, the abandonment of Palestinians by all candidates signing up to the BoD pledges is the killer. As I've said before, this is a personal issue for me, not just a matter of basic human rights and justice.
Also, just because I'm not in the party anymore doesn't mean I won't vote for them or offer support during an election. It does however mean I am free to comment on I/P issues without fear of being expelled by the party and concomitant smears. I simply do not have the financial wherewithal to do them for libel or slander.


Clap:
I did clap - not that anyone except the ducks who have commandeered our garden pond in the last couple of weeks will have heard. I heard another couple of claps too.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 2, 2020

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Same here (except it was car horns) and it's also woken up all the loving seagulls and the fireworks have set off a load of car alarms. Frankly I wish they'd do it around 11pm so I could get to sleep more easily, the quiet is really loving discombobulating for a city boy like me.

Put on some TV? :shrug: ever since moving in with the missus I've had to get used to falling asleep to the Golden Girls. :filez:'ing that was like the first thing I did to endear her to me.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Pantsmaster Bill posted:

Local coop still empty of loads of stuff: no pasta, rice, lentils or anything like that, and almost no veg. All the veggie protein stuff was gone too (Quorn/sausages/tofu)

Is this still caused by panic buying or is there a problem with supply chains?

if it aint supply chain it will be soon. we basically need to make sure domestic food is harvested and also make sure the majority of our food from abroad can get in very quickly.
thats even more complicated than the quarantine and i dont think the gov has even begun to think about it

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

That's more than understandable.

Communist Thoughts posted:

if it aint supply chain it will be soon. we basically need to make sure domestic food is harvested and also make sure the majority of our food from abroad can get in very quickly.
thats even more complicated than the quarantine and i dont think the gov has even begun to think about it

Why? As in why do we need to make sure our food from abroad can get in quickly?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

Put on some TV? :shrug: ever since moving in with the missus I've had to get used to falling asleep to the Golden Girls. :filez:'ing that was like the first thing I did to endear her to me.

That's actually what I do (got in the habit when staying with my sister in the middle of nowhere, where it was so quiet I could hear my own heartbeat - it was like a loving isolation chamber) - I just set my TV to switch off after 30 minutes and am generally asleep in ten, except sometimes the cessation of noise is enough to wake me back up.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

Local coop still empty of loads of stuff: no pasta, rice, lentils or anything like that, and almost no veg. All the veggie protein stuff was gone too (Quorn/sausages/tofu)

Is this still caused by panic buying or is there a problem with supply chains?

I think it might just be a problem with the Co-op - my local one doesn't really seem to have restocked in over a week apart from milk and bread, whereas the Tesco a bit further along is brimming with stuff. It also still has "No more than two items" signs all over the shelves whereas everywhere else seems to have abandoned this.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Communist Thoughts posted:

if it aint supply chain it will be soon. we basically need to make sure domestic food is harvested and also make sure the majority of our food from abroad can get in very quickly.
thats even more complicated than the quarantine and i dont think the gov has even begun to think about it

As the government seems to have found the magic money tree, offering £20/hour to get the harvest in seems like something easily doable.

Just kidding, they're going to make it a requirement for people to get their UC.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

cant cook creole bream posted:

Remember when Brexit was the thing which would destroy this country?
Good times.

Oh we still have that cherry to add to the poo poo sundae later in the year, dont worry

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

"I just want to be able to stop thinking about Brexit", I said, holding my cursed monkey paw.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Kin posted:

Got a pretty big back garden that we're getting done up during the summer, but i don't wanna go nuts to begin with. I've got a bad back too so was thinking an elevated planter or something like that to begin with so i can move it about after the garden's redone.


That's kinda good to know. Seasonality was something i figured would be an issue but i might start prepping for next year.

Peas and runner beans give you the best bang for your buck, in terms of just how much better they are fresh from the garden compared to shop-bought, IMO. They're like a completely different food. When I was a kid we used to grow peas in the back garden and I don't think any of them ever made it onto a plate, we'd just eat them straight off the plant.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

goddamnedtwisto posted:

As the government seems to have found the magic money tree, offering £20/hour to get the harvest in seems like something easily doable.

Just kidding, they're going to make it a requirement for people to get their UC.

Is workfare still a thing? Because if so ... Oh boy.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

blunt posted:

Is workfare still a thing? Because if so ... Oh boy.
Don't worry, transitioning to a centrally-planned economy is only socialist if you give the workers rights.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

bessantj posted:

I know this is a few pages back but "pedophiles in control of the AI?" isn't a question I'd ever thought would be asked.

After all the Epstein revelations that part didn't even draw a blink from me. If anything I felt bothered that I was agreeing with Alex Jones.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

As the government seems to have found the magic money tree, offering £20/hour to get the harvest in seems like something easily doable.

Just kidding, they're going to make it a requirement for people to get their UC.

It's OK, they'll get the army on the case. Sure they'll sort it no problem. Army efficiency and all that!

https://twitter.com/1057Seamus/status/1245695414030008320?s=20

Oh.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Completely anecdotal observation: been out for a run every day since quarantine started. People have been pretty good until tonight, when there was probably 3x as many people out, and most pretence of distancing was abandoned. Noticeably more traffic on the road too.

20c and sunny at the weekend is going to break people.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Oh my god why are they using half a dozen people to tip a wagon that's like a two person job...

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

peanut- posted:

Completely anecdotal observation: been out for a run every day since quarantine started. People have been pretty good until tonight, when there was probably 3x as many people out, and most pretence of distancing was abandoned. Noticeably more traffic on the road too.

20c and sunny at the weekend is going to break people.

I guess the police will have realised the same and be out and about to stand on our windpipes if we get too close to each other.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

OwlFancier posted:

Oh my god why are they using half a dozen people to tip a wagon that's like a two person job...

No social distancing, no PPE, 5 people handling the same boxes...

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

What are they doing in the first frame, why are they lifting stuff up the loading dock? That's there so you don't have to do that and it'll have a ramp or a lift next to it as well...

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