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81sidewinder
Sep 8, 2014

Buying stocks on the day of the crash
No full mania spoilers yet?

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


81sidewinder posted:

No full mania spoilers yet?

So far nobody who was there has leaked anything beyond who's sick. who's not showing up anymore, and who replaced them

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
Wouldn't surprise me if they filmed all the matches with different endings just to squash any leaks.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Strawberry Panda posted:

Wouldn't surprise me if they filmed all the matches with different endings just to squash any leaks.

That would be pointless because they also filmed the raw after mania

Sticky Nate
Jan 9, 2012

I'll tell ya a real spoiler for 'mania: covid-19!

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


sportsgenius86 posted:

That would be pointless because they also filmed the raw after mania

Also Brock would just say no to being asked to stay extra unpaid hours to film unnecessary stuff

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Chris James 2 posted:

Also Brock would just say no to being asked to stay extra unpaid hours to film unnecessary stuff

otoh, he might be willing to stay an extra ten minutes to get a second wrestlemania paycheck.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


As always, betting odds are betting odds, especially for something that's already been taped that nobody has leaked yet. I don't think any/all of these are necessarily the results, just posting them because some in other threads expressed curiosity. Currently for Mania:

Aleister Black -700
Otis -170
Edge -500
Elias and King Corbin -120 both
Sami Zayn retains -200
Sasha wins SD women's title +100
Miz and Morrison retain +100
Shayna wins Raw women's title -180
Drew McIntyre wins WWE title -350
Rhea retains NXT women's title -175
Kevin Owens -230
Fiend -500
Undertaker -400

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Chris James 2 posted:

As always, betting odds are betting odds, especially for something that's already been taped that nobody has leaked yet. I don't think any/all of these are necessarily the results, just posting them because some in other threads expressed curiosity. Currently for Mania:

Aleister Black -700
Otis -170
Edge -500
Elias and King Corbin -120 both
Sami Zayn retains -200
Sasha wins SD women's title +100
Miz and Morrison retain +100
Shayna wins Raw women's title -180
Drew McIntyre wins WWE title -350
Rhea retains NXT women's title -175
Kevin Owens -230
Fiend -500
Undertaker -400
I wouldn't put it past Vince to have filmed 2/3 endings to every match and just have them plug and play literally during the match

Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

You look like a star!

RealFoxy posted:

I wouldn't put it past Vince to have filmed 2/3 endings to every match and just have them plug and play literally during the match

Put choose your own WrestleMania on the network Vince

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Accident Underwater posted:

Put choose your own WrestleMania on the network Vince

Everyone would just choose 17.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

CopywrightMMXI posted:

Everyone would just choose 17.

or 30

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

You look like a star!

One woman seems to LOVE the Speedo-Man!

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


Accident Underwater posted:

One woman seems to LOVE the Speedo-Man!


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The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


It's really amazing how much they hosed up Devitt, they went to the wall with him out of the gate on the main roster and, you know what? It was working!

Then he busted his shoulder because of a misfired barrier bomb and before too long they're painting him pumpkin orange and setting him to wrestle Bray in drag

Wish I still had that screenshot of his stare into the middle distance that screams "I left an Armani endorsement behind for this, I was on billboards in Tokyo like three years ago, I think I hosed up bigly" during a backstage interview in the middle of his Corbin feud.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


The Cameo posted:

It's really amazing how much they hosed up Devitt, they went to the wall with him out of the gate on the main roster and, you know what? It was working!

Then he busted his shoulder because of a misfired barrier bomb and before too long they're painting him pumpkin orange and setting him to wrestle Bray in drag

Wish I still had that screenshot of his stare into the middle distance that screams "I left an Armani endorsement behind for this, I was on billboards in Tokyo like three years ago, I think I hosed up bigly" during a backstage interview in the middle of his Corbin feud.

Couldn't find it, found this instead which was also pretty good https://twitter.com/ConnorJA_/status/1030783730934341632

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

The Cameo posted:

It's really amazing how much they hosed up Devitt, they went to the wall with him out of the gate on the main roster and, you know what? It was working!

Then he busted his shoulder because of a misfired barrier bomb and before too long they're painting him pumpkin orange and setting him to wrestle Bray in drag

Wish I still had that screenshot of his stare into the middle distance that screams "I left an Armani endorsement behind for this, I was on billboards in Tokyo like three years ago, I think I hosed up bigly" during a backstage interview in the middle of his Corbin feud.

Imagine how he feels now that Kenny's show is beating the one he was brought in as a ringer for

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


I do sincerely wonder if he made the demand to go down to NXT so that he could quietly slip out the back door when his contract finishes (it's hard to figure out when it ends, I've been googling around - he went to NXT in 2014, he would have signed an extension when he went up to the main roster in 2016, but I can't seem to find anything about a new contract since then, it just disseminates into him marrying the lady from Fox Sports and him returning to NXT) especially now that he could work both a cable TV wrestling product outside of WWE and have a big return run in New Japan.

I wonder how annoyed he must be with Hiromu being like probably the #3 star in New Japan behind Naito and Okada.

Actually, I imagine he's just incredibly annoyed overall after being so fundamental in the creation of Bullet Club and watching almost everyone else that got attached to it being bigger stars than he is. In his current promotion? AJ is in the sweet zone of perpetual upper-card, main event status. Elsewhere? The Bucks and Kenny and Cody have their own loving promotion. Even the Kiwi young boy he and Fale got into the Inoki dojo has already held the most prestiguous title in wrestling and is a cemented main eventer and is one of the most over heels in wrestling.

And here he is, on NXT. Not even doing much of anything of note. I can't remember the last time anyone talked about Finn Balor since that time he did a Pele kick while slipping out of his leather jacket for his heel turn.

Poor Fergal. :(

He apparently mentioned last year he sees about another eight years left in him, I can't imagine he intends on spending most of those in WWE at this point, especially not when Tony and TNT would love to flip open the checkbook for him.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

RealFoxy posted:

I wouldn't put it past Vince to have filmed 2/3 endings to every match and just have them plug and play literally during the match

I hope he also filmed 2/3 versions of the Raw and NXT after Mania that have already been taped too

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I never really thought about that but yeah, holy gently caress. Devitt really got karmically hosed by signing that WWE contract and watching the Bullet Club absolutely blow up and completely change the business and make like a dozen careers. Its so weird that he's like the 6th most successful member at best.

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012
It's pretty funny he got stuck wearing hat made out of belts because he thought it'd be fun to dress up as Carnage for his last Tokyo Dome match

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

a Prince Devitt 2nd run in NJPW would be loving incredible though it'd be more special if Karl Anderson somehow found a way to escape too.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

DLC Inc posted:

a Prince Devitt 2nd run in NJPW would be loving incredible though it'd be more special if Karl Anderson somehow found a way to escape too.

Karl Anderson signed a five year extension when he had the chance to leave, he doesn't get wishing to escape privileges.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Devitt, Anderson, and Gallows escaping WWE and hitting NJPW/AEW would be loving insane business. But yeah, it doesn't sound like Anderson and Gallows are going anywhere.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
In retrospect it's pretty wild that Devitt was the only BC leader to not hold the IWGP heavyweight title. I know he challenged Tanahashi and Okada and worked the G1 as a junior, but was there ever a plan to move him up to permanent heavyweight before he left?

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


poo poo, an Apollo 55 reunion would probably move some tickets.

Don’t know if Bushiroad would spring for “You’re The Best”, though. And it wouldn’t be quite right without it.

But imagine them running Devitt/Ibushi now.

Or, wait for it: Real RocknRolla vs. The Aerial Assassin.

Mostly I think I miss the guy who reacted to an Anderson/Okada chain of reversals like so: :ohdear::newlol::ohdear::newlol::ohdear::newlol::ohdear::newlol::ohdear::newlol::ohdear::newlol::ohdear::newlol:RAINMAKAAAAAAAAH:kingsley:

Never mind his potential AEW matchups. Imagine Devitt/Darby. Devitt/Guevara. Devitt/Omega for the first time since like BOSJ 20 or whenever their last match was. He’s got so many more money matches outside of his current spot than he ever would inside, and while he said he did his art, now he’s doing his money, it’s gotta be real enticing to be able to do both.

E:

Benne posted:

In retrospect it's pretty wild that Devitt was the only BC leader to not hold the IWGP heavyweight title. I know he challenged Tanahashi and Okada and worked the G1 as a junior, but was there ever a plan to move him up to permanent heavyweight before he left?

From what I remember that was a big part of him leaving: the junior to heavy shift was even rarer back then than it is now, and dude isn’t especially big (remember this was a time before ZSJ was a socialist beanpole stretching everyone), so he felt like he hit the ceiling and wouldn’t get the shots even as they fed him crumbs like the G1 run and the title matches.

Had he stuck around, as the promotion changed, they probably would have said “gently caress it, he’s done everything he can in the juniors and women love him, let’s make him heavyweight and get that easy money”.

But I imagine if he ever does pull the trigger on going outside of WWE again, he’d make more money out of New Japan with the return run than he would sticking around.

The Cameo fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Apr 4, 2020

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Devitt vs 2020 Ibushi would kick rear end

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I wasn't even necessarily thinking of the matchups so much as those obvious stories of OG Bullet Club vs Bullet Club/Elite and the idea of Devitt walking around with a giant chip on his shoulder that all these guys got over on his gimmick and won world titles and made millions and started companies. Like seeing him walk into AEW and tell Cody, Omega, and the Bucks that they owed him everything including the promotion while Cody's basically "I don't know you, you never did a thing for me, I don't owe you anything" is making me giddy to think about.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

The Cameo posted:

Imagine Devitt/Darby. Devitt/Guevara. Devitt/Omega for the first time since like BOSJ 20 or whenever their last match was.

loving hell stop I can only get so excited. This would be so good.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I'm telling you.

Devitt walks into AEW and calls out the Elite saying they owe him for making the Bullet Club, making them, and making AEW possible.
Bucks are kinda iffy about it because they know he's being a dick but they WERE in his Bullet Club and they turned on him.
Omega is kinda iffy but hostile because he wasn't in Devitt's BC but they have history and unresolved poo poo.
Cody is just "I don't know you, you didn't do anything for me, only people who helped me get where I am are my family."
Hangman's drunk somewhere.
Then Gallows and Anderson attack and the place goes insane.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



then shawn spears tells him to go back to playing with his legos and we never see him again

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Keep Gallows and Anderson in WWE for life

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Devitt/Guevara is a funny thing to consider, when I've felt the latter is kind of a young version of the former right now, or at least has that kind of potential

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
WWE can keep Gallows, but if Sex Ferguson shows up in AEW and takes out the Elite we got a friggin program!

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


DLC Inc posted:

Devitt/Guevara is a funny thing to consider, when I've felt the latter is kind of a young version of the former right now, or at least has that kind of potential

No, the younger version of Devitt is Jordan Devlin



the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

Lamuella posted:

No, the younger version of Devitt is Jordan Devlin





and Devlin was trained by Balor, even.
their NXT UK Takeover match was almost eerie.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



24 new posts, I thought some Mania spoilers had leaked but no, it's just a bunch of you creaming over Finn Balor

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


the escape goat posted:

and Devlin was trained by Balor, even.
their NXT UK Takeover match was almost eerie.

Now I want Devlin to come out in Demon makeup to face Balor in Demon makeup just for a Pentagon moment.

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

I can't imagine Devitt staying past his current contract if theres money elsewhere. You know that even if he says he's done his art, this isnt how he wanted to end his prime. Even if he doesn't want to go back to Japan full time he could easily do appearances and get paid well to not do the brutal road schedule WWE expects just to job because Vince thinks he's short.

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