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Azza Bamboo posted:Given that we put all of our tax income in a single big pot that gets divided up in the budget, Note that this is how neoliberal governments choose to depict the process of budgeting and taxation, not how it actually works.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The full documentary, Secret Life of the Cell, is readily available online, and its absolutely great. Has dramatic music for when antibodies fly in like its loving Apocalypse Now. I feel like I've seen it in school but it can't possibly be that old. I can't possibly be that old, tell me I'm not that old
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Kin posted:Hmm, I dunno about that. People are ignorant enough about how this all works that they bought into the credit card analogy as justification for austerity. Sorry, when I said "we" I meant lefties, basically. I agree with you completely about the reason they have and will continue to get away with it even while thousands are dying.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I feel like I've seen it in school but it can't possibly be that old. 2012, so I'm not sure you're that young There were similar clips and poo poo doing the rounds before that, swear I saw one back in 2008. gently caress, what have i done with the last 12 years.
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An article regarding Zoom, the thing the cabinet were using for video conferencing. They seem to have rolled their own encryption, it's not very good. The encryption keys are generated by servers in China because, Zoom is an American company but it looks like it's actually developed by their companies in China. quote:Internet traffic, appear to be generated by Zoom servers, and in some cases, are delivered to participants in a Zoom meeting through servers in China, even when all meeting participants, and the Zoom subscriber’s company, are outside of China.   boris  https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/1246143017611931650?s=20
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WhatEvil posted:OK well fair enough, but you say he's a friend of yours? You should tell him to include an outlet valve. He could probably make one with a single rubber washer or thin rubber flap of the right size/flexibility. I guess it's like the Sten of PPE, bad and uncomfortable but if you follow the template even someone with zero gunsmithing experience can churn out a few dozen. I wonder if in the aftermath of this we'll realize that the state can do things, like house the homeless or build things, or if we'll go straight back to "well some plucky individuals stepped up and anyway free marketplace of ideas" waffle. e: ^^^ fucken
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Strom Cuzewon posted:2012, so I'm not sure you're that young Oh thank god. The graphics look too good for me to have seen it in school
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Guavanaut posted:I wonder if in the aftermath of this we'll realize that the state can do things, like house the homeless or build things, or if we'll go straight back to "well some plucky individuals stepped up and anyway free marketplace of ideas" waffle. Given the piles of free food being delivered to the hospital I was at yesterday, I'd say there's a raft of companies with press releases ready to go the moment #10 announces the crisis is over, claiming how much their doughnuts helped.
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Tarnop posted:Note that this is how neoliberal governments choose to depict the process of budgeting and taxation, not how it actually works. Like any model it explains it to a level and then if you want to be a nerd and learn the "well actually" you can get a degree in it. Like how you'll have to re learn photosynthesis for every single key stage in your standardised testing.
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sinky posted:An article regarding Zoom, the thing the cabinet were using for video conferencing. Whatever the Chinese equivalent of  is, it appears on a copy of this slide somewhere in the 3rd Department.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Like any model it explains it to a level and then if you want to be a nerd and learn the "well actually" you can get a degree in it. Like how you'll have to re learn photosynthesis for every single key stage in your standardised testing. This is like the US Civil War/states rights thing, isn't it? If you know nothing about economics, you say "Why not just print money?" If you know a little bit, you talk about velocity of money and inflationary pressures. If you know a lot, you say "BRRRRR"
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Azza Bamboo posted:Like any model it explains it to a level and then if you want to be a nerd and learn the "well actually" you can get a degree in it. Like how you'll have to re learn photosynthesis for every single key stage in your standardised testing. Yes, it explains it to a level that allows them to claim there's no money left and poor people need to die for 10 years.
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Well it's easier than saying that we're in an interconnected globalised economy that'd rather effectively deny us access to imported food than admit that the pound is just a concept and that there's no problem with pulling some pounds out of thin air to give to solving the financial crisis from the ground up. We learn to consume before we learn to labour. We have a much more intuitive understanding of the value of money than we do labour.
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kingturnip posted:Given the piles of free food being delivered to the hospital I was at yesterday, I'd say there's a raft of companies with press releases ready to go the moment #10 announces the crisis is over, claiming how much their doughnuts helped. Subway emailed me today to let me know just how much they've been helping people, and that my 0 subway points would freeze and not expire while stores are closed.
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They have a bunch of product they can't sell and that'll go rotten. Why not liberally apply it to marketing?
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Tarnop posted:What's the benefit of "easier" in this case? Either way the power isn't in the hands of the people being killed, and no guarantee that even if there was an understanding that they wouldn't accept it as the way things are any less. Particularly as consent would have to come from the rest of the globalised world as well as our part. There's no benefit to be had from the treasury if you're losing elections, not just here but everywhere we trade with. Or should I say benefits. The benefit is not encumbering people with knowledge that bears absolutely no use to them in their lives. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Whatever the Chinese equivalent of there's been a lot of leaping at zoom for what are p typical fuckups for companies as everyone's bored this pandemic with a lack of distracting news and it suddenly got popular, but there hasn't been anything especially egregious popping up so far. this'll be the next p typical fuckup that hits the newscycle if anyone bothers digging as everyone who tries to be clever with low latency voip falls in the trap: https://twitter.com/colmmacc/status/1246160773379796994 for those who aren't familiar if you send voice packets with a variable length and no padding/timing element to them then a person on the line can just figure out the syllables you were speaking and reconstruct the words. encryption on them is irrelevant unless its padded to a fixed size - the metadata of size and time can show enough information to reconstruct
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This is like the US Civil War/states rights thing, isn't it? In case anyone hasn't seen it yet: https://brrr.money/ (turn the sound on and crank the slider)
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So which debts have been written off? Debts to the treasury or debts owed to Trusts, CCGs and other businesses operating in the health economy? I want to know where this is coming from because I'm wondering if this writing off debt constitutes a U turn on tory policy or whether the decision is actually being driven by the market's uncertainty. In other words, something they'd only do if their business partners don't feel confident in the health market rather than something that could have just been done at any point without repercussions. If they're buying up and writing off private debt assets because the current health market stinks so bad that no one wants them, that's totally different to saying they could have just done this anytime. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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Stolen from the the Cursed Images thread https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11320198/coronavirus-5g-conspiracy-theory-masts/
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Azza Bamboo posted:Burn the rest of the internet, too, cowards. Please don't, it'd be a lot harder to do  with no internet
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Wachter posted:Stolen from the the Cursed Images thread Nice. 5G has a range of only a few hundred metres or so which means the base stations are mostly going to be innocuous lumps on the side of buildings in town centres, not masts out in the countryside where they'd provide superfast data rates to a handful of sheep and not much else. Burning down masts will get the 4G and 3G transmitters though. These bands are useful for communications in more remote areas and we do use them for quite a lot of telemetry on boring, important things like oil interceptors, rising mains and water pumps. We did, anyway.
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First foray into universal credit... actually rather painless? Despite the spike in applications it's been sorted within a week, the guy who dealt with me on the phone was genuinely really nice and helpful, and I've specifically been told I've got no commitments in terms of looking for work until coronavirus blows over. I mean sure it's only £400/month which is garbage but I'm surprised the process went as smoothly especially given the circumstances.
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ThomasPaine posted:First foray into universal credit... actually rather painless? Despite the spike in applications it's been sorted within a week, the guy who dealt with me on the phone was genuinely really nice and helpful, and I've specifically been told I've got no commitments in terms of looking for work until coronavirus blows over. I mean sure it's only £400/month which is garbage but I'm surprised the process went as smoothly especially given the circumstances. Dunno what all the fuss is about e: also it was £317 a month before real people had to start claiming it Tarnop fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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ThomasPaine posted:First foray into universal credit... actually rather painless? Despite the spike in applications it's been sorted within a week, the guy who dealt with me on the phone was genuinely really nice and helpful, and I've specifically been told I've got no commitments in terms of looking for work until coronavirus blows over. I mean sure it's only £400/month which is garbage but I'm surprised the process went as smoothly especially given the circumstances. The problems were never about claiming it, it's about the fact that (under normal conditions) you're expected to spend 36 hours a week searching for jobs, a loving physical impossibility. That you're expected to account for those hours, explaining exactly what you did, where as under the old system you just showed what jobs you applied for, where you checked for them and that was it. Also that you don't get the money for a minimum of 5 weeks. And if you need money before that then they encourage you to take out a loan (honestly, the last time I did it it was more like "strongly encouraged" even after I said no). The immense strain I felt the last time I was on UC left me feeling like I had a stark choice, stop claiming benefits I was entitled to or off myself & you can guess which choice I took. I fear this will give people like you (but less informed) a false impression of the system & after lockdown ends we'll get "the system is clearly too soft on the work-shy bastards".
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Endjinneer posted:So like if someone has a beautiful fish tank and instead of feeding all the fish together, they just give food flakes to the neon tetras. The plecostomii clean algae off the walls which they should get flakes for, but the tetras say that they don't deserve any because the walls aren't quite clean enough. Rather than let the plecs starve which would ruin everything, the tetras generously lend them the food instead. What actually happens is that the Plec grows bigger and bigger and bigger and eventually fills the entire tank and goes "lol no" at the Neon Tetras.
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forkboy84 posted:The problems were never about claiming it, it's about the fact that (under normal conditions) you're expected to spend 36 hours a week searching for jobs, a loving physical impossibility. That you're expected to account for those hours, explaining exactly what you did, where as under the old system you just showed what jobs you applied for, where you checked for them and that was it. Also that you don't get the money for a minimum of 5 weeks. And if you need money before that then they encourage you to take out a loan (honestly, the last time I did it it was more like "strongly encouraged" even after I said no). The immense strain I felt the last time I was on UC left me feeling like I had a stark choice, stop claiming benefits I was entitled to or off myself & you can guess which choice I took. I'm not saying it's not poo poo, I was just expecting the whole process of applying and getting it to be slow and obtuse especially given Tories and the pressure on the system atm and was surprised that it was fairly painless. Obviously I know that in normal times the work searching stuff is insane, I remember how lovely being on jobseeker's was a few years back and I assume it has gotten worse. I used to just lie through my arse and spend 2 mins copy pasting a few job references I had no intention of applying for into the online journal every day and they always seemed to believe me. No idea whether that's as easy to do anymore. e: I do think this varies hugely though, I've only ever been on benefits in relatively solid left, mostly working class, areas. It makes a huge difference if your adviser person is happy enough to just wave you through and rubber stamp the paperwork without looking at it too hard, which most of mind were. I had a friend claiming in the Tory heartlands who said it was loving abysmal and everyone who worked in the jobcentre clearly despised him and every other claimant and treated it as part of their work to humiliate and gently caress them over and make things as hard as possible at every opportunity, which isn't something I ever experienced to any extent (thankfully) Tarnop posted:Dunno what all the fuss is about You're being a bit unfair here because I obviously didn't say that and I know it's nowhere near enough to live off for the great majority of people. On your edit though, I think the £400/month is now the standard figure (or just short, because it's like £95/week), and that the additional £20/week they're giving is going to be added during the crisis period making it £450-500/month total. This is coming from someone I know at the DWP but I don't have anything specifically saying that so who knows. Yes, I agree that it's pretty laughable. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:eh i'd put it down to incompetence, a mildly competent job wouldn't raise an eyebrow compared to claiming AES 256, but doing 128 ECB in practice. the regions the servers are physically located is p irrelevant beyond legal jurisdiction/clickbait. end of the day you should always be adapting your communication based on how much you can trust a medium, not the party on the other end. The servers supplying/holding the keys being located in China is a monumental fuckup. In fact it's not even a fuckup, it's way beyond the reach of Hanlon's Razor - there's literally no way that PLA don't have complete access to everything on that server. It's almost certain that's the actual reason that they're even there, because it's extremely unlikely PLA would actually allow a Chinese company to develop a comms method without giving them access. At the very least you'd expect Zoom to have said "Hey, why don't we just host this in the same place as the rest of our servers" and, you know, actually expected a solid technical reason why not (which I certainly can't think of). I'd be extremely leary of using Zoom even for company-confidential communications in a situation like that, that we had an actual Cabinet meeting using it (when approved teleconferencing applications, okay all the way up to TOP SECRET and beyond, exist and would certainly be available to the loving Prime Minister) is completely inexcusable.
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Azza Bamboo posted:So which debts have been written off? Debts to the treasury or debts owed to Trusts, CCGs and other businesses operating in the health economy? The mechanism for writing off the debt was converting the loans to equity - so in reality there will have been billions of pounds of loans from NHSE/government to Trusts for capital expenditures (seemingly the main reason for these loans) which are now being turned from a monetary obligation into a direct 'ownership' of the Trusts (which is only possible because a Trust is a separate financial entity from the NHSE to begin with). So there's no private market consideration, this is a balance sheet manipulation which gives a nice headline but also stops the Trusts worrying about repayment obligations to NHSE and allows them to re-enter that same level of debt, presumably still to NHSE/government to finance their future needs.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Been a while since I've posted The Chart I absolutely love that the dumb-dumb online response to this hasn't been the legit 'okay I don't like authoritatianism but clearly strong lockdown works and private financial interests in healthcare systems causes predictable inefficiencies' it's been 'China caused the virus to gently caress the world they only handled it better because they knew it was coming'.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Been a while since I've posted The Chart A 7-day rolling average smooths out all the oddities like the drop in UK numbers at the weekend and random drops that people keep pointing at and saying "SEE IT WAS ALL JUST A HOAX".
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