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Azza Bamboo posted:I imagine in the next few months the party is going to appear as bi-partisan as possible, and it's going to make some big token moves to appear like it's doing something about the dumb anti Semitism thing. As a result everyone here will be screaming for my apology. What I want to wait for is the next manifesto, or at the very least the next conference, to see what they do with power and not just what they do while the press is watching. Great time for bipartisanship, you gullible gently caress
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Azza Bamboo posted:It's easy for you to criticise now that your preferred outcome will never be put to the test. I can't show you what another five years of socialists making pathetic excuses for themselves looks like. Don’t double down on this Azza, it’s going to be bad and everything for years has pointed to how it’ll be bad.
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A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking.
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. Just as dumb as you are ugly. https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1246380071549624320
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. Yeah, no poo poo. This isn't the burn you think it is 'if you're not against neoliberalism, you're against me' is the only sane response in these times. You are a leaf on the loving wind. No integrity.
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. Lol keep going
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. Could it have anything to do with how the people who weren't with us behaved over literally the entire course of Corbyn's leadership
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Gonzo McFee posted:Just as dumb as you are ugly. What else did you expect her to say?
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed with how emphatic his win was. There's lots of situations in life where "if you're not with me, then you're against me" is appropriate, measured and reasonable.
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. Yes, weird that people would be upset about a rejection of politics of hope & optimism for mealy-mouthed chasing of an imaginary centre ground. Can't get why that would lead to tears at a time when the health service is collapsing explicitly because of loving ideologically driven under-funding. You loving prat. If this is the level of intellectual rigour displayed by the average Labour member I suddenly get how Keir won. Aidan_702 posted:What else did you expect her to say? That she's predictably wrong doesn't mean it's not worth commenting on, she's got a huge loving platform.
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Aidan_702 posted:What else did you expect her to say? Just remarking that the tories are really happy that Starmer won.
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Azza Bamboo posted:A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking. We're basically just back at the point we were up until 5 years ago, where we'd begrudgingly vote for Labour because the Tories were far worse but we'd be loving stupid to make that vote anymore.
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Gorn Myson posted:Yeah they're unnecessary because we knew this was going to happen for quite some time and you can cushion the pain by knowing just how badly Starmer and Labour are going to get completely monstered by the press and the Tories. 5 years ago I'd never voted for Labour. Quite willing to go back to never voting for them again. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Gorn Myson posted:Yeah they're unnecessary because we knew this was going to happen for quite some time and you can cushion the pain by knowing just how badly Starmer and Labour are going to get completely monstered by the press and the Tories. Labour is getting pasokified.
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Gorn Myson posted:Yeah they're unnecessary because we knew this was going to happen for quite some time and you can cushion the pain by knowing just how badly Starmer and Labour are going to get completely monstered by the press and the Tories. Yeah. I'm never voting again tbh
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Gonzo McFee posted:Just remarking that the tories are really happy that Starmer won. They’d be happy with whoever one - none of that is surprising. Any time you’d heard a “leaked” source that tories were secretly afraid of X it was a lie. Happy that Starmer won because he’s a centrist/Tory lite/millionaire/actually working class/ill defined - so why won’t they just vote for the real tories? Happy that RLB won because she’s Corbyn two/anti-Semitic/flaming communist/a woman/socialist Etc etc and for Nandy it would just be that she would just be another Tory
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Jose posted:The letter was published 3 minutes after the results were announced a letter written by Johnson in which he pointedly does not offer a government of national unity? what’s your loving point?
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Azza Bamboo posted:If you want to prove that an honest attempt at socialism can work, you're free to try elsewhere. If you want to prove that an honest attempt at capitalism can work, you're free to try elsewhere you loving hack.
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Barry Foster posted:Yeah. I'm never voting again tbh I'm in a safe tory seat so my vote never mattered anyway.
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Cerv posted:a letter written by Johnson in which he pointedly does not offer a government of national unity? Actually it was a few minutes before - not that that mattered, they knew who was going to win
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What I'm looking for is a dishonest attempt at socialism. If that's not happening then it wasn't happening anyway.
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Azza Bamboo posted:If you want to prove that an honest attempt at socialism can work, you're free to try elsewhere. It's cool that you wandered into the Socialist thread, announced that you're dumb as gently caress, voted for the Neoliberal who was the architect behind the policy that most demonstrably lost us the 2019 election and are implying that this somehow makes you more practical than everyone else. Just dumb dumb dumb.
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Azza Bamboo posted:What I'm looking for is a dishonest attempt at socialism. If that's not happening then it wasn't happening anyway. I'm glad someone has decided to step into the Pissflaps void and be a dumb oval office spouting complete bollocks for a reaction. God bless.
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Azza Bamboo posted:If you want to prove that an honest attempt at socialism can work, you're free to try elsewhere. After all, if you're not going to vote Labour, why not spin up the TUC or some other offering. No really I want you to explain how the bait and switch works. We fill the shadow cabinet with centrists and then.... what, politely ask them to give the reins to the left post-election?
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Azza Bamboo posted:What I'm looking for is a dishonest attempt at socialism. If that's not happening then it wasn't happening anyway. Glad to see as a trans person you basically voted for the person who wants me to not exist you poo poo.
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Azza Bamboo posted:What I'm looking for is a dishonest attempt at socialism. If that's not happening then it wasn't happening anyway. This post has been extracted from a void of hope in levels I never thought possible
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minema posted:Azza said in last month's thread that coronavirus was just the loving flu and a few grannies would die and we'd all carry on so this is just a continuation of bad opinion posting imo Wow i thought this was an exaggeration but nope, there it is quote:It's a loving flu, we'll get through it and some grannies will die and a few nurses will quit their NHS jobs in favour of the much less stressful cosmetic procedure industry. Life goes on whoop de doo. Anyway, speaking of the virus, Channel 4 had an excellent video on Italy's experience. Obviously the stories are always horrible, but Lindsey Hilsum always has the best pieces and this one is proper moving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuKdj4TKc6M
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bionic vapour boy posted:No really I want you to explain how the bait and switch works. We fill the shadow cabinet with centrists and then.... what, politely ask them to give the reins to the left post-election? You run people who the CLPs back at the election using the new selection rules and then, should the party ever get a shitload of seats, its parliamentary votes are in the hands of the new blood. If there's anything the years of brexit wank taught us it's that the ministers are losing their grip on the process.
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Stormgale posted:Glad to see as a trans person you basically voted for the person who wants me to not exist you poo poo. Genuine question - has he made any specific statements on trans issues, or does he have a poo poo voting record in that area?
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Azza Bamboo posted:What I'm looking for is a dishonest attempt at socialism. But that was RLB's campaign strategy as far as I can see - all that crap about 'aspirations' and so on. There is nothing in Starmer's record suggesting he is secretly more left wing than he appears. I mean look at this poo poo.
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Aidan_702 posted:Actually it was a few minutes before - not that that mattered, they knew who was going to win an hour before. but who’s counting? people getting angry about something that happens only in their imagination and isn’t even a possibility on the horizon are just looking for an excuse to direct their anger onto something
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stev posted:Genuine question - has he made any specific statements on trans issues, or does he have a poo poo voting record in that area? Last I remember he was the one palling around on Mumsnet, I could be wrong though.
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Azza Bamboo posted:You run people who the CLPs back at the election using the new selection rules and then, should the party ever get a shitload of seats, its parliamentary votes are in the hands of the new blood. If there's anything the years of brexit wank taught us it's that the ministers are losing their grip on the process. Lmao
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Azza Bamboo posted:I can't show you what another five years of socialists making pathetic excuses for themselves looks like. Bold of you to assume we have five years.
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