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Barry Foster posted:We're a true leftist movement, not a true labour movement I’m a true Scotsman though No honestly It’s me The true Scotsman
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Azza Bamboo posted:The reaction I've got has allowed me to feel like there is a clean break. Yeah you've shown yourself up and rather than reflect for half a second you've decided to flounce out without actually doing the "Out" part.
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Gasmask posted:I’m a true moron though Shut the gently caress up already you dullard. Being smug that the dull technocrat won is a dumb look.
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Apr 4, 2020 12:23
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Gasmask posted:I’m a true Scotsman though That's not a "No true Scotsman" argument, dummy.
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hahahahahahahahaha hosed it.
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Not So Fast posted:People throwing their toys out of the pram need to step back and breathe. Keir just got more votes than Corbyn did in 2015. I would wait for him to betray those voters before we start calling him Blair 2.0 Yeah, I appreciate people itt are disappointed but Starmer in 2020 is not Blair in 1997 and Starmer pretty much ran on Corbyn's policy platform. It's not the end of the world just yet.
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Gasmask posted:I’m a true Scotsman though What I said had nothing to do with No True Scotsman
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Gonzo McFee posted:Yeah you've shown yourself up and rather than reflect for half a second you've decided to flounce out without actually doing the "Out" part. What reflection would satisfy you?
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This was depressingly inevitable after the polling a few weeks ago. I'm not gonna snip my card and my CLP voted much better than this so they're ok but yeah. Not a happy morning
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Azza Bamboo posted:What reflection would satisfy you? Azza Bamboo posted:It's a loving flu, we'll get through it and some grannies will die and a few nurses will quit their NHS jobs in favour of the much less stressful cosmetic procedure industry. Life goes on whoop de doo.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, I appreciate people itt are disappointed but Starmer in 2020 is not Blair in 1997 and Starmer pretty much ran on Corbyn's policy platform. It's not the end of the world just yet.
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Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Gasmask posted:Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me. gently caress off
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Barry Foster posted:We're a true leftist movement, not a true labour movement Reminds me of something I saw the other day, from 2017: 
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Gasmask posted:Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me. The fact that you thought this was a smart thing to say says everything gently caress off out of the thread, you've said your lovely piece
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Gasmask posted:Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me. Give me your money.
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Statement from RLB : https://twitter.com/RLong_Bailey/status/1246381940372123655?s=19 Statement from Corbyn https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1246394078780174341?s=19
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The two people happy about Keir winning acting all smug and above it all while Keir immediately falls for the laziest Wallet Inspection and jumps into bed with the Tory government just loving rules.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I imagine in the next few months the party is going to appear as bi-partisan as possible, and it's going to make some big token moves to appear like it's doing something about the dumb anti Semitism thing. As a result everyone here will be screaming for my apology. What I want to wait for is the next manifesto, or at the very least the next conference, to see what they do with power and not just what they do while the press is watching. forkboy84 posted:That's expected to change in the next few minutes. forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/HowUpsetting/status/1246395779624951808?s=20 forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/EdRooksby/status/1246394114784010242?s=20 
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Isomermaid posted:This was depressingly inevitable after the polling a few weeks ago. I'm not gonna snip my card and my CLP voted much better than this so they're ok but yeah. Not a happy morning I'm waiting to see how badly he fucks it this week before cancelling my direct debit
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What reflection on voting Starmer would satisfy you, Gonzo mcfee
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Gasmask posted:Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me. Well done for posting this right after you've noticed most of the thread agrees with each other and Azza is talking about feeling rejected by the group.
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Azza Bamboo posted:What reflection on voting Starmer would satisfy you, Gonzo mcfee CleanBreak.txt
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Azza Bamboo posted:What reflection on voting Starmer would satisfy you, Gonzo mcfee That it was dumb as gently caress and that you should be aware that you made a dumb as gently caress decision.
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Gasmask posted:Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me. I mean I'm mostly a lurker because I'm a bad poster and even I could do better than this.
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Gonzo McFee posted:The two people happy about Keir winning acting all smug and above it all while Keir immediately falls for the laziest Wallet Inspection and jumps into bed with the Tory government just loving rules. I’m the only one being smug. You being a prick to Asda despite him explaining his thinking proves my point way better than I could.
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Gorn Myson posted:lol do you have a point or just more piss weak attempts at owns Please like me thread 
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superliminal posted:jesus I know it seems bad but it seems like something a lot of the politically apathetic public will get behind? Just like the whole idea of "sorting Brexit out". There are multiple political avenues to work with the Rona and Brexit but people seem to just want it to be as "apolitical" as possible. I'm not a Starmer Stan but why not at this point gently caress it, why not work together with the lovely government. The public will be like "he's so mature and non-partisan", anything to keep them away from the loving tories or any fash adjacent parties. Maybe my time moving to a Tory heartland has really destroyed my ability to hope, people on this island really do love the boot. Also tbh we were never going to get the society we wanted just with a labour win, it would have stopped a lot of suffering but it was never our only avenue to power. If there is one thing I can take from being leftwing it's the ability to get up after any soul-crushing defeat and keep going. Always forward.
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Gonzo McFee posted:The two people happy about Keir winning acting all smug and above it all while Keir immediately falls for the laziest Wallet Inspection and jumps into bed with the Tory government just loving rules. If I’m on of these I’m not happy about any of this. I’m not happy Red Ed lost in the first place. Corbyn didn’t win, twice. We have to try a new tactic. I’m firmly in the camp these should be tactics not blind allegiance to dear leader Starmer. If RLB won, I’m confident she would’ve lost and lost hard at the next election. I’m less confident Starmer will lose. Only less. Get a bit of perspective and work with what we have. The most fundamental piece of work is to keep up with creating community support infrastructure under a red banner, which would be a priority no matter who won.
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quote:This attack is accomplished by making you feel that your very existence is inimical to the Movement and that nothing can change this short of ceasing to exist. These feelings are reinforced when you are isolated from your friends as they become convinced that their association with-you is similarly inimical to the Movement and to themselves. Any support of you will taint them. Eventually all your colleagues join in a chorus of condemnation which cannot be silenced, and you are reduced to a mere parody of your previous self. https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm Whatever the tories think about Starmer as leader of the opposition, I'm sure they are quaking in their boots at the idea of every left winger in the UK turning on each other in a giant bloodbath of ideological purity until, like a crap Communist Highlander, only one remains. They absolutely, definitely want us to piece ourselves together after the years of real and manufactured schisms that have beset our party, seek common ground and make the best of what we've got. So that's the last thing we should do.
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Gasmask posted:I’m the only one being smug. You being a prick to Asda despite him explaining his thinking proves my point way better than I could. Flat-earthers also explain their thinking, and they're dumb motherfuckers too. I mean I suppose Azza was right in a way, Keir has already Trojan-horsed his way right into number 10.
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Diane Abbott is on the privy council? Unless that's out of date, they're was a big thing about Corbyn joining cos he had to kiss the Queen or whatever. It's normal. Three longer statement had him saying he would hold Boris to account and criticise where necessary. The tweet is nothing.
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He may be thinking he can pull an Attlee here. I don't have a detailed enough understanding of the wartime coalition to get whether that's workable, though.
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Gasmask posted:Please like me thread
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Literally every new leader from Corbyn to Karl Marx would have put out a statement about working with the Tories at this difficult time
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Gasmask posted:I’m the only one being smug. You being a prick to Asda despite him explaining his thinking proves my point way better than I could. lmao tone policing
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Endjinneer posted:https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm We're not turning on each other, we're turning on the liberals lol
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