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Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

That Works posted:

No your evidence is a loving youtube video you brought out trying to trumpet that China's numbers are actually OK and they are doing great while ignoring previous criticisms, data and past behavior of China.

Your followup that the great firewall is not a big deal doesn't change the fact you're trying to argue correctness of the entire dataset based on one loving youtube link.

Um, which video? Can you link it here because I have no idea what you're talking about. The only video I posted is the Japanese guy documenting how Nanjing has been handling the lockdown - QR codes to track people, Contactless Payments, signing in and out of buildings etc. It's clear that it is being taken very seriously in China.

So do you not believe the numbers coming out of other APAC countries? Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, etc?

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Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Facebook Aunt posted:

Twist ties would probably work, if you have them. I've seen other sources recommending pipe cleaners if you can get them, because they have a bit of padding compared to bare wire.

I'm pretty sure the folded masks need to be disassembled for washing. That filter layer likely won't stand up to washing at all. The metal nose piece would rust. It's not like it takes long to fold it back together.

Those masks are meant to be taken apart and reassembled on the daily. Also, pipe cleaner sounds good, the fluff will help it stay in position. :D

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Tests in southern ca are still taking 5-6 days to come back.

We are doing awesome!!

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

I want to die.



Foam Monkey posted:

My tiny rear end county in Iowa finally got a positive test. Of course they won’t tell us where they’re at considering how the county is split, but since my job preemptively declared me essential, I guess I just have to hope it wasn’t a coworker.

If that tiny rear end county is Hardin then the guy is in Eldora.

Source: The paper I printed last night that the olds still need so I get to be essential.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Ugh, I started having flu-like symptoms last night, and no urgent care will see me so I can get a flu swab and Tamiflu if that comes back positive because they’re turning away anything that might be coronavirus.


The thing is, I know this isn’t coronavirus because I had coronavirus two weeks ago.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Busy Bee posted:

Um, which video? Can you link it here because I have no idea what you're talking about. The only video I posted is the Japanese guy documenting how Nanjing has been handling the lockdown - QR codes to track people, Contactless Payments, signing in and out of buildings etc. It's clear that it is being taken very seriously in China.

So do you not believe the numbers coming out of other APAC countries? Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, etc?

Yes, that video.

Does Taiwan, Singapore, SK have a record of people who spoke out against covid response disappearing / dying? Do the other APAC countries deport reporters critical of that countries covid response?

Suddenly this one youtube video proves that China has done everything right and there's no malfeasance on their part at all?

Again, exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. Maybe it exists, but you're not bringing it.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Ugh, I started having flu-like symptoms last night, and no urgent care will see me so I can get a flu swab and Tamiflu if that comes back positive because they’re turning away anything that might be coronavirus.


The thing is, I know this isn’t coronavirus because I had coronavirus two weeks ago.

Maybe you've still got coronavirus.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

sassassin posted:

Maybe you've still got coronavirus.

My last symptomatic day was 3/19, so that’s pretty doubtful. I do get exposed to every single person on the job site who feels sick at all, one of whom tested positive for the flu after we sent him off site, so I’m pretty certain I know what this is.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Ugh, I started having flu-like symptoms last night, and no urgent care will see me so I can get a flu swab and Tamiflu if that comes back positive because they’re turning away anything that might be coronavirus.


The thing is, I know this isn’t coronavirus because I had coronavirus two weeks ago.

maybe you got it twice? i heard you lose immunity very quickly. it would be a useful data point to test you

Riatsala
Nov 20, 2013

All Princesses are Tyrants

Corona virus has officially 9/11'd us twice, now.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I didn’t get a mask and obviously I won’t find a mask. I have a merino wool buff for hiking in cold weather. Better than nothing?

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:

Rolo posted:

I didn’t get a mask and obviously I won’t find a mask. I have a merino wool buff for hiking in cold weather. Better than nothing?

better than nothing

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Then I will wear it.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Rutibex posted:

maybe you got it twice? i heard you lose immunity very quickly. it would be a useful data point to test you

That’s not actually the case, there were 100 people in China with symptoms and a positive test after discharge from the hospital, but they were likely just discharged too soon. You can test positive for the virus for some time after you recover, but that’s just from residual viruses hanging around, not a sign you lost your immunity or anything. There’s nothing to suggest your immune response would be any different than any other virus that’s ever infected humanity.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

quote:

I try not to live under a rock, however, I also try my best to pay attention to my surroundings. Our Government is under attack from within. If you don’t believe so, then you probably also believe that this is the first time the Corona virus has been identified.

Think about what’s transpired over the last few months. The government has presented every possible demographic including a self proclaimed socialist as a democratic candidate because they fear something they can’t control.

The impeachment hoax failed and immediately Pelosi vowed to exhaust efforts in overthrowing Trump. If you currently can see this post then until last week you were living in the most thriving economy this nation has ever seen in my lifetime. Only due to the fact that the person in control couldn’t be bought.

If you think for one second this “pandemic” is not media driven, and controlled by the radical people in powerful places....well...go back to sleep under the rock you crawled out from.

This thing has killed less people in the same time frame then cigarettes, cancer, drunk driving, domestic violence, car crashes, cross stitching accidents (j/k on the last one but probably close), stabbings, overdoses, and please don’t get me started on abortion.

Wake up!!! This is what the beginning of socialism looks like! They are controlling what you buy...bc it’s what you think you need, where you go...bc it’s where they tell you not to go, and how to live...bc you now fear the very existence of anything outside of your home and control.

They are leading with fear. Causing you to panic like sheep.

They are crashing the stock market to run on a failing economy, because it’s all they have left. What is this saying to all of the countries that have opposed us for decades but, couldn’t defeat us?

It’s saying...biological war fare will make these idiots glued to CNN and every other liberal news source panic and run for the hills.

You don’t need hand sanitizer, toilet paper, and Lysol. You need common sense, a sense of direction, faith, a will to fight, and of course guns!

Now wash your hands and live the life they don’t want you to have!

#America #trump2020 🇺🇸


Taken from Facebook, the person who posted this masterpiece for everyone on the internet to see, died a few days ago from covid-19. Dying to own the liberals cause they listened to Fox News or even the governor of Texas who literally asked that people be happy to die for this.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

I said come in! posted:

Taken from Facebook, the person who posted this masterpiece for everyone on the internet to see, died a few days ago from covid-19. Dying to own the liberals cause they listened to Fox News or even the governor of Texas who literally asked that people be happy to die for this.

This is the kind of self-owning I love to see.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
So this airport seating area is loving empty, there is nobody here. Hundreds of seats to choose from. This boomer couple comes and sits RIGHT ACROSS FROM ME and hacks up a lung.

Then, a few minutes later, ANOTHER ANCIENT RELIC COMES AND SITS RIGHT BEHIND ME.

The gently caress is wrong with this generation? How did they get so completely hosed in the head? :psyduck:

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
They're literally spoiled bitches from living in the best century of human history.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Ugly In The Morning posted:

That’s not actually the case, there were 100 people in China with symptoms and a positive test after discharge from the hospital, but they were likely just discharged too soon. You can test positive for the virus for some time after you recover, but that’s just from residual viruses hanging around, not a sign you lost your immunity or anything. There’s nothing to suggest your immune response would be any different than any other virus that’s ever infected humanity.

There was at least one person in Japan that seemed cured and tested clean then it came back with symptoms; it’s seemingly not impossible so please be careful.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


LimburgLimbo posted:

There was at least one person in Japan that seemed cured and tested clean then it came back with symptoms; it’s seemingly not impossible so please be careful.

That happens rarely with pretty much every viral disease

schmug
May 20, 2007

I said come in! posted:

Taken from Facebook, the person who posted this masterpiece for everyone on the internet to see, died a few days ago from covid-19. Dying to own the liberals cause they listened to Fox News or even the governor of Texas who literally asked that people be happy to die for this.

lol wish I could crosspost this to the Schadenfreude thread, but rules. so lol here instead. godspeed, idiot :fsmug:

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

I said come in! posted:

Taken from Facebook, the person who posted this masterpiece for everyone on the internet to see, died a few days ago from covid-19. Dying to own the liberals cause they listened to Fox News or even the governor of Texas who literally asked that people be happy to die for this.

What a bastard. My aunt died in a cross-stitching accident and I lost a cousin and an uncle to macrame and tatting, respectively.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

LimburgLimbo posted:

There was at least one person in Japan that seemed cured and tested clean then it came back with symptoms; it’s seemingly not impossible so please be careful.

There are many reports of people who get it, recover, show negative tests multiple times and then show weaker symptoms and show positive tests again and recover again. Theory was it was like a standard cold, where sometimes the initial infection response wasn't great enough to make enough antibodies to completely fight it off.

EvilBlackRailgun
Jan 28, 2007


I said come in! posted:

Taken from Facebook, the person who posted this masterpiece for everyone on the internet to see, died a few days ago from covid-19. Dying to own the liberals cause they listened to Fox News or even the governor of Texas who literally asked that people be happy to die for this.

Lt Governor

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

nong posted:

clearly they haven't been to a wet market or a more polite term traditional market

all the live animals in cages with grime caked onto them, including feces, blood, hair, feathers and whatever else, covering the silver metal wires containing the animal and turned those cages black
no need to wash any of this because you are just going to put the next animal inside and things will get dirty again quickly

wooden chopping board probably have seen hundreds of animal parts on it everyday and the usual brown color of wood grains being replaced with an almost dull pitch black color with a worn deep groove in the center showing where most of the cutting was done, why washing any of this between cutting different animals because you can save time and serve a lot more customers instead

the market used to be dark because you only need just enough light for others to see what you are selling, nowadays it's replaced by a blinding cool white led light that feels sterile but at least shows every nooks and crannies

the floor filled with blood and whatever else being drained into an open pipe and all the food are out in the open for the flies to land on, the bloody bits get soaked into the concrete or asphalt so the whole place has a certain smell, especially when they try to hose it down with water by squeezing the rubber hose to create a stronger stream while splashes and aerosolizes everything on the floor for everyone else to inhale

all these grime or 'organic materials' are most likely full of nutrients to incubate stuff on, and you probably cant create a more perfect environment to grow bacteria or virus that's targeting the mixtures of all those species


you can get stuff fairly cheap from those markets though especially if you are good at haggling

Boy am I tired of the China vs US etc poo poo itt. This is horrific^ as is industrial farming

We loving got this because we as a species are cruel to animals. Its definitely poetic justice if it came from pangolins- that we killed for their loving useless to us SCALES

gently caress animal cruelty which is practiced by every nation. And I'm not PETA vegan, we could eat meat without it being a loving horrorshow.

Im Ready for DEATH
Oct 5, 2016

zer0spunk posted:

applied for unemployment for the first time in my adult life.

new york state has a max available of 506 weekly, with an extra 600 a week on top of that from 3/27 to 7/10..its also been extended to 39 weeks up from 26.

annnd for the first time they've both waived (or at least have chosen to ignore) the searching for work weekly requirement, as well as extended being eligible to 1099 invoice workers who don't normally pay into UI.

i'm freelance non union but i have a mixture of payroll and invoice work..still good I'd be covered either way.

that plus the 1200 check due in a few weeks should actually put me in a better spot what with having no work for any foreseeable future..

the real takeaway is i should have probably filed for this earlier in my life and i'm an idiot for not taking advantage of it until now

Yeah as an "essential" worker I'm tempted to take a 10 month vacation that pays me more than my current salary, too.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Im Ready for DEATH posted:

Yeah as an "essential" worker I'm tempted to take a 10 month vacation that pays me more than my current salary, too.

Gotta get fired or laid off. I also filed for unemployment for first time in my life last week and I'm 50. Not a moment's guilt here, just gratitude it exists.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

QuarkJets posted:

Pretty much yeah

I wish people would stop posting bullshit conspiracy theory videos where a dude connects poorly-correlated dots and then shouts "I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS" because that's basically all this is.

It’s a desperate need to turn the nonfiction autobiography of life into a high fantasy/sci fi novel

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Wizard Master posted:

How do you guys feel about a possible backlash (economic and politcal sanctions, amongst other things) against China for causing this?

:gizz::gizz::gizz::gizz:

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

That Works posted:

Yes, that video.

Does Taiwan, Singapore, SK have a record of people who spoke out against covid response disappearing / dying? Do the other APAC countries deport reporters critical of that countries covid response?

Suddenly this one youtube video proves that China has done everything right and there's no malfeasance on their part at all?

Again, exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. Maybe it exists, but you're not bringing it.

We're talking about the accuracy of the numbers so I don't see why bringing up the record of people who spoke out against the response has anything to do with this. And I'm not aware of China deporting reporters who were critical of the COVID response, perhaps you can share this with me.

No, not this one YouTube video but the extreme measures that China took shows that the numbers can be realistic, especially considering the neighboring countries numbers. In addition, the fact that the daily cases in China increased by 14k in the middle of February shows that if the CCP were really trying to downplay the severity of the issues to make themselves look better, then they would have controlled that as well.

My claim is not exceptional, it is more level headed than your claim that because CHINA BAD, then the numbers are incorrect. I have yet to find a country that has taken as extreme measures as China that has not been able to contain it. Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea etc. performed a very calculated lockdown as well and their numbers are significantly more positive than China's - I mean Taiwan, a country with 24 million people has 5 deaths - does that sound believable to you?

You can keep telling me to show you exceptional evidence but we both know that that's not possible. What do you want to see - "Unnamed CIA Officials release statement that the numbers from China are accurate"?

Blitter
Mar 16, 2011

Intellectual
AI Enthusiast

i am harry posted:

It’s a desperate need to turn the nonfiction autobiography of life into a high fantasy/sci fi novel

Really? More often they seem like a series of increasingly complex rationales for some larger underlying idiotic notion they just won't give up on.

Stupidity is really gonna kill a lotta Americans this year.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Busy Bee posted:

We're talking about the accuracy of the numbers so I don't see why bringing up the record of people who spoke out against the response has anything to do with this. And I'm not aware of China deporting reporters who were critical of the COVID response, perhaps you can share this with me.

It's literally the first thing that comes up when you Google "China deporting journalists"

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/03/21/expelling-journalists-is-no-way-to-fight-a-pandemic

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Blitter posted:

Really? More often they seem like a series of increasingly complex rationales for some larger underlying idiotic notion they just won't give up on.

Stupidity is really gonna kill a lotta Americans this year.

Right, because the answer couldn't possibly be that everything is mundane.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Some flu or the Roni just outright raped me yesterday afternoon. Joint pains, fever, nausea, migraine-like headache all night. I only seem to have an elevated temperature today and sweating this poo poo out. Feel kinda weak to get out of bed but not terrible. I don’t think the Roni would have such a quick turnaround.

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

Rolo posted:

I didn’t get a mask and obviously I won’t find a mask. I have a merino wool buff for hiking in cold weather. Better than nothing?

If it's a buff you have to pull over your head to get off maybe it would be better to just tie a thirt or something? Anything you can take off without having to pull it over your head/eyes.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

A 20 year old died in our province, but they don't know what her health situation was like beforehand yet. A bunch of people are dying in an elderly care facility in my city too. Two teens were charged $1200 for sitting in a car together, which was later dropped, but maybe it will scare some people into not defying public health orders because they're bored or don't care about others?

Ralph Crammed In
May 11, 2007

Let's get clean and smart


I'm tired of doing grocery shopping with my butthole all clenched up.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

It's literally the first thing that comes up when you Google "China deporting journalists"

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/03/21/expelling-journalists-is-no-way-to-fight-a-pandemic

Did you read that article? Of course you didn't seeing as how you posted just a few minutes after my post and considering The Economist is behind a paywall.

The expelling of journalists from New York Times, Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal was in response to this - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/18/us-chinese-media-propaganda-state-department - where do you see that it was in response to reporters being critical of the COVID response?

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

Ralph Crammed In posted:

I'm tired of doing grocery shopping with my butthole all clenched up.

For real though, shopping is a really stressful endeavour these days, even if there are only 6 people in the entire supermarket.

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Im Ready for DEATH
Oct 5, 2016

Spinz posted:

Gotta get fired or laid off. I also filed for unemployment for first time in my life last week and I'm 50. Not a moment's guilt here, just gratitude it exists.

It's going to happen, I hope before the money runs out, even our "essential" vendors are having enormous absenteeism, (I wonder why?) so it's only a matter of time before we're shut down as well.

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