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schmug posted:Woe, 144 out of a population of over a billion isn't zero. You got us. I give up.
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steinrokkan posted:BTW, the UK has more reported days today so far than Italy or Spain. Brexit is reestablishing British dominance already! I need more days today. Having one just isn't enough.
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wyoak posted:China just came out of an extreme multi-month lock down (that Wuhan is still in), is quarantining anyone who enters the country, the hardest hit areas probably have developed a limited degree of herd immunity, and people are still scared of the virus so shops aren't open and people aren't exactly flocking into giant crowds - it's not unbelievable that they'd only have a couple hundred new cases per day given that they're likely still only testing symptomatic people. It'll be interesting to see the numbers coming out in the next few weeks, now that people are being allowed to travel again, Wuhan is opening up in a few days, and people begin to settle back into old routines. STFU
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wyoak posted:Wuhan is opening up in a few days, and people begin to settle back into old routines. This will probably work out about as well as reopening the theaters
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poverty goat posted:This will probably work out about as well as reopening the theaters
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Last post to you from me because i don't actually wanted to have a conversation on this and am only pissed off because you're going after me personally. After that you can say whatever the gently caress you like: You're now actively lying about me. I understand you're in a great amount of distress because your country is burning down, but trying to paint me as a rabid propaganda-spreading CCP sleeper agent doesn't help anyone. So: gently caress off. Put me on ignore instead of trying to pick fights with me. I already have you on ignore and won't bother with your pissy poo poo anyhow. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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schmug posted:STFU yeah c'mon man don't disrupt the "CHINER BAD" narrative.
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Mithaldu posted:Last post to you from me because i don't actually wanted to have a conversation on this and am only pissed off because you're going after me personally. After that you can say whatever the gently caress you like: dawww (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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wyoak posted:the hardest hit areas probably have developed a limited degree of herd immunity. Nowhere in China got hit hard enough for herd immunity to be a factor unless the numbers of infected and dead were underreported by multiple orders of magnitude.
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Famethrowa posted:yeah c'mon man don't disrupt the "CHINER BAD" narrative. Nice try rear end in a top hat. Not what I said or even implied.
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How do I get my boss to lay me off from my essential position? I want to make nearly double my paycheck by doing nothing at home.
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Lazyhound posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1245856390482034689 yes, im sure they they're assuming Trump doesn't watch television. Why would anyone think otherwise DropsySufferer posted:I agree who cares about old people. It’s not like we all have parents and older relatives we care about... The majority of these posts are about people concerned for their older relatives and them not listening so I'm not sure what you're getting at Telebite posted:This got poster yesterday and already has 1 million views. I mean, this isn't proof but it definitely raises some pretty interesting questions. We always knew this was a possibility. Of course, it almost doesn't matter at this point, it's just a historical detail Platystemon posted:Why is it likelier that people handling serious viruses, who knew they were handling serious viruses, hosed up, than it is that some yokel was inconsiderately handling a pangolin, oblivious to the pathogens it could carry? You're ignoring the fact that a novel coronavirus appearing from a lab that is studying and creating novel coronaviruses is more likely than simple random chance at a nearby wet market. He claims people working there have stated they were splashed with bat urine, and honestly China is not the most well known country for its safety regulations and procedures. I'm not saying it definitely happened that way, but there's at the very least a decent chance that's how it happened which has been my opinion from the beginning. nong posted:all these grime or 'organic materials' are most likely full of nutrients to incubate stuff on, and you probably cant create a more perfect environment to grow bacteria or virus that's targeting the mixtures of all those species You actually CAN create a more perfect environment to grow virus.... in a lab that's designed to grow virus Mithaldu posted:Last post to you from me because i don't actually wanted to have a conversation on this and am only pissed off because you're going after me personally. After that you can say whatever the gently caress you like: Just stop talking about it dude, christ. A few of you are credulous enough to believe the CCP, fine, that doesn't change anything. Or I'll say it even more kindly: you prefer to take them at their word, others don't. Just stop talking about it already because everyone's just going in circles and nobody on either side is going to be convinced of their wrongness, apparently.
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Achtane posted:How do I get my boss to lay me off from my essential position? Get covid19.
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Warbadger posted:Nowhere in China got hit hard enough for herd immunity to be a factor unless the numbers of infected and dead were underreported by multiple orders of magnitude.
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China and America both threw away their opportunities to contain coronavirus early when containment was possible, resulting in mass deaths both domestically and abroad, and both countries have massaged the numbers and misrepresented statistics, such as by presenting the number of positive tests as though it were an indicator that the overall number of cases was small. There is no china vs USA here, and beating that drum for either side risks casting a positive light on either country's shameful response. Both countries are bad, and both governments have doomed hundreds of thousands or more with their incompetence.
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CarpenterWalrus posted:no, you see, china lying about its numbers matters to the US right now because why does everything have to be about the US? We have forum members all over the world and I would say the situation in any country is of interest. That being said just forget about the numbers and whether they are lies for now, we don't have the ability to call out those lies so discussing it is pointless especially when it's creating super derails
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there will be plenty of reason to go to war with China in the coming economic struggle. no need to beat the drum early
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poverty goat posted:Both countries are bad, and both governments have doomed hundreds of thousands or more with their incompetence. This is honestly my main concern, particularly in the us i want to see enough people understand just how much blood is on trump's hands that direct action is taken. Preferrably faster than slower, given the US Army already has a perfectly functional and helpful action plan ready: https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1245906088911949826 Getting the same kinda thing on the CCP would be considerably harder so i don't even hope for it, but i won't say no. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Mithaldu posted:e: To disagree with myself below slightly, my main concern in which this one is rooted is that i'm terrified for the lives of my american friends, several of which are medical workers. What do you mean by direct action?
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schmug posted:All things I hadn't considered. Sorry if I was overly harsh. I just assume everyone is and idiot or a troll or both these days. That being said, and as others mentioned more eloquently, there are alternatives to fresh stuff that you might have grown accustomed to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bt1UZAnxnA Some really cool 3d printing tips in this video, getting the print time down to a single hour for such a large face shield is incredible.
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wyoak posted:Infected I don't think anyone has a handle on, that's sorta my point Korea and Taiwan contained the virus successfully, as verified by continued mass testing, which implies their numbers on total infected are more or less accurate and inclusive. It's still pretty deadly according to their numbers - despite the medical infrastructure never getting overwhelmed. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Frank Sidebottom posted:What do you mean by direct action? I don't give a particular poo poo, as long as it replaces Kushner's operation to make profits with american lives with something that's actually workable.
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This is going to be a global downturn. Life isn't a zero sum game to the good OR the bad. China does best when the US is doing well. Basic stuff you guys
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Mithaldu posted:Whatever tools the constitution provides. Or heck, having states secede. Yeah what'll really fix the pandemic is a civil war
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Spinz posted:Gotta get fired or laid off. I also filed for unemployment for first time in my life last week and I'm 50. Not a moment's guilt here, just gratitude it exists. You paid into to it for so long for everyone, including yourself. Get something out of it. You're good people, Spins.
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Bibliotechno Music posted:I’m also gonna try out a sewn version to give to the various cashiers in my neighborhood. I don’t wanna give them something that needs a YouTube link to clean. I have a pattern in mind to try sewing, I’ll post it here if it works out. That is very kind of you. 
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Pick posted:This is going to be a global downturn. Life isn't a zero sum game to the good OR the bad. China does best when the US is doing well. Basic stuff you guys Of course but then how could they argue about China for no reason
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Mithaldu posted:e: To disagree with myself below slightly, my main concern in which this one is rooted is that i'm terrified for the lives of my american friends, several of which are medical workers. So what I'm getting from this is that Trump made sure that the private sector got inserted in a level that they were not included in before, so that they can get their slice of the pie and delay/confuse distribution? Or am I misunderstanding this?
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Here's a new article about how folding@home is helping and on that note we need you to help SA stay at the top of the leaderboard because everyone else has started mining proteincoins again as well. There is constant work right now. Be sure to join team 150 and use a passkey for bonus points.
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Pick posted:This is going to be a global downturn. Life isn't a zero sum game to the good OR the bad. China does best when the US is doing well. Basic stuff you guys As a mercantilist, I disagree.
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Blistex posted:So what I'm getting from this is that Trump made sure that the private sector got inserted in a level that they were not included in before, so that they can get their slice of the pie and delay/confuse distribution? Or am I misunderstanding this? I feel like theres some kind of miscommunication over what they are talking about and what Trump did. What I thought Trump is doing is "facilitating" private sector produced/owned equipment, but what the general is talking about in that clip is distributing stuff already owned by the government. Can someone clarify?
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Blistex posted:So what I'm getting from this is that Trump made sure that the private sector got inserted in a level that they were not included in before, so that they can get their slice of the pie and delay/confuse distribution? Or am I misunderstanding this? Exactly that, it's amazingly horrible. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/jared-kushner-coronavirus-response-160553 wyoak posted:in a vacuum it'd be a good thing for the feds to be controlling the distribution of supplies because they'd be in position to gauge the needs of one state vs another US Army != FED. There are problems with the US Army too, but at least in the short term they'd save wildly more lifes.
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poverty goat posted:Here's a new article about how folding@home is helping and on that note we need you to help SA stay at the top of the leaderboard because everyone else has started mining proteincoins again as well. There is constant work right now. Be sure to join team 150 and use a passkey for bonus points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieF7ER1wvT0 i dont really know whats happening here but pretty sure something is getting penetrated
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So what's the insurance situation if you get temporarily laid off during this thing? That's the only snag I can think of because here in Texas if you make less than ~$70k a year you'd get a slight bump in take-home pay if you were laid off and sat on your rear end for a few months. But I'm guessing COBRA is like $3k a month so the whole thing would fall apart.
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dr_rat posted:And China isn't even remotely the only place that has those sort of markets. Just go to pretty much any developing country and you'll usually be able to find pretty much that. China has the one-two punch of wet wildlife markets in extremely population dense areas. Wuhan isn't some rural backwater, 11 million people live there. More than NYC.
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Mithaldu posted:Exactly that, it's amazingly horrible. Fuuuuck. I was hoping (for the US's sake) that I was wrong, but ever-loving gently caress that is criminal!
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Montreal police using their new expanded powers to ensure we're safe by... doing a raid in a leftist political org's HQ. And Quebec provincial police now believe the crisis justifies geolocalizing anyone's cell phone, intercept incoming and outgoing SMS, incoming and outgoing calls. To... make sure everyone respects rules of isolation, of course. The last thing our police need more of is power. This is loving terrible. Of course, most of the comments I see are along the lines of "we have to lose individual liberties to be safe, this is a no-brainer". gently caress.
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