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HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

Ebola Roulette posted:

The Northeast TN region has a mortality rate of 7% :stare:

Our hospitals aren't even overwhelmed yet.

I would assume they are not testing anyone

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Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook

RandomBlue posted:

loving amazing the lack of self awareness at jumping all over people and insulting them and generally doing a terrible loving job of convincing anyone to try and reach out to the CHUDs and change their point of view.

BE NICE TO THE CHUDS YOU loving DUMB SHITS! WHY WON'T YOU HELP CHANGE THEIR MINDS YOU GOD drat IDIOTS?!?

In awe of the size of the big lad

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Good soup! posted:

There was a documentary about Daryl Davis that came out a while back and one of the last segments was him talking to two inner city black dudes who criticized the whole let's all hold hands and talk approach and one of them was like "while weve been out marching and protesting, you were out making friends" and Davis tried a put down on one of them for not graduating high school and both of them and the older guy who came in for the interview lost their poo poo on them

Davis sounds kinda dumb and naive at times tbh

I agree but the broader point about solidarity is sound.

I don't know how anyone can on one hand be reading MadJackal's posts itt thinking about how horrible is and how they wish they could help in some way, and on the other hand poo poo on the idea of building any kind of solidarity with the unwashed masses. Meanwhile Bernie and AOC are turning their phone-canvassing infrastructure towards building mutual aid networks and spreading useful information to those who need it desperately. This is your call to action to fight to make things better and you're arguing for making GBS threads your pants and rolling around in it instead.

mystes
May 31, 2006

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Roughly 4 people in Louisville have been fitted with ankle monitors for violating self-quarantine after testing positive and there's a judge whose only job right now is hearing these cases on-call so they can fit them with the monitors almost immediately. Apparently no where else in the US is doing this although its fairly common in Asia? The prison guard union's all up in arms about it because they haven't actually been charged with a crime but also its open and shut legally because its a court order and mandatory isolation is a power explicitly given to judges in our states public health laws once an emergency's been declared.
Is the prison guard union mad because they're confining people to their houses rather than jail?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Zotix posted:

So masks aren't needed, wash your hands citizenry turned into how to videos from the US surgeon general on how to make your own mask at home.

People talk a ton about manufacturing consent but I've never seen it happen so strongly. Giving them the talking point about how masks lead to touching your face more = worse than nothing is gonna get as many people killed as the Holocaust and I'm not really kidding on that number if our spread gets completely out of control

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Trainee PornStar posted:

Married via zoom LOL!! you do realise how hosed up that is right?
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about same sex weddings.

I think the two women were together, they just held the ceremony via zoom, which is honestly not really a problem

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


ChipNDip posted:

Most of out deaths from car culture are long-term effects that lead to chornic illnesses, most of which coincidentally also make someone more likely to die from coronavirus. Nobody driving for 2 weeks doesn't solve obesity or make up for decades of breathing in noxious fumes.

1,250,000 people die annually from car crashes, roughly 3300 a day

Quetzadilla posted:

I agree but the broader point about solidarity is sound.

I don't know how anyone can on one hand be reading MadJackal's posts itt thinking about how horrible is and how they wish they could help in some way, and on the other hand poo poo on the idea of building any kind of solidarity with the unwashed masses. Meanwhile Bernie and AOC are turning their phone-canvassing infrastructure towards building mutual aid networks and spreading useful information to those who need it desperately. This is your call to action to fight to make things better and you're arguing for making GBS threads your pants and rolling around in it instead.

SKULL.GIF posted:

it seems like you've come into this thread fresh and are seeing individual posts as a full thesis statement instead of part of a tapestry of multivariate reactions

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

A hundred geniuses in the command chamber all solving the most unbelievably hard progressive matrices. Patterns our feeble minds can't even begin to comprehend. Somewhere at the far end of the table, a man coughs.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Roughly 4 people in Louisville have been fitted with ankle monitors for violating self-quarantine after testing positive and there's a judge whose only job right now is hearing these cases on-call so they can fit them with the monitors almost immediately. Apparently no where else in the US is doing this although its fairly common in Asia? The prison guard union's all up in arms about it because they haven't actually been charged with a crime but also its open and shut legally because its a court order and mandatory isolation is a power explicitly given to judges in our states public health laws once an emergency's been declared.

It's legitimately funny how strong govt laws are for disease outbreaks, it's very clear they were written back when every politician had grown up in eras of constant death from disease, knew tons of people who'd died from them, and took it insanely seriously

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Quetzadilla posted:

I agree but the broader point about solidarity is sound.

I don't know how anyone can on one hand be reading MadJackal's posts itt thinking about how horrible is and how they wish they could help in some way, and on the other hand poo poo on the idea of building any kind of solidarity with the unwashed masses. Meanwhile Bernie and AOC are turning their phone-canvassing infrastructure towards building mutual aid networks and spreading useful information to those who need it desperately. This is your call to action to fight to make things better and you're arguing for making GBS threads your pants and rolling around in it instead.

bernie should have called for the full nationalization of the entire healthcare industry like every other country is doing at the start of this crisis. we are very quickly passing the point where social democracy can solve the kind of problems we are facing right now.

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

heck yeah

:chud:

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Zas posted:

where is the evidence? i dont see it

Flagging wildcat strikes as "Militant communist socialist anti-Americanism! :bahgawd: " in order to shift the overton window before dialogue even begins

Farm Frenzy posted:

virus gonzales is an amazing name


Zotix posted:

So masks aren't needed, wash your hands citizenry turned into how to videos from the US surgeon general on how to make your own mask at home.

The home made masks are to prevent particulate contamination, and anything that covers the face can do this.

This has the added benefit of leaving the medical grade equipment for actual medical staff, who not only know how to best use them, but rely on the superior effectiveness daily to avoid provider contamination of patients andkeep them from getting sick so they can keep doing what they're doing

Frog Act posted:

lesbian teleconference wedding

Probably too long, but an excellent username IMO


Quetzadilla posted:

Yeah Karen is dead, but everyone who listened to her and other denialisnts are not. Her death is an opportunity to educate, organize, and radicalize. I'm not asking anyone to cry for Karen I'm saying that circle-jerking about her death is counterproductive to the goal of organizing for a better future.

If you're just too precious to dirty your hands by talking to a chud I can't make you, but don't pretend that it's because you're just so committed to the principles of socialism and that it somehow makes you a good leftist. This is a weakness, not a strength, and you should be ashamed of it not proud of it. If you want to piss in your own mouth about it fine, but the backsplash is gonna get on your comrades out there actually doing the work and make that work harder so don't pretend otherwise.

Idk what this refers to but Davis in the specific is also not important to the point I'm making which is sub-101 level babyshit of BUILDING SOLIDARITY. Any leftist worth their salt should understand solidarity and how to build it, and yet somehow my posts on the topic are controversial. Anyone who thinks that building solidarity is pointless is a narcissistic nihilist, not a socialist, and you should stop lying to yourselves.

Daryl Davis also mentioned that there's little point to trying to convince a room to change, you convince them one at a time. The whole room is going to win the argument, even if you and your tête-à-tête target are holding differing views. Why, someone might even be convinced to say something in public, but hold a separate, private opinion that differs!

But these are the people that are now saying the quiet parts out loud. They're the people who no longer have to coax support to get into a position of power, and instead just have to keep others from revoking it. And they're going to be loud, offensive, and insular, while fervent branding of shades of dissent becomes black and white opposition. If you're going to take a page from someone's book, maybe read the whole drat book first.

And now for something completely different:

This scene, but replace "Libyans" with "the coronavirus"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDS81Ibazdk

Mistle has issued a correction as of 20:22 on Apr 4, 2020

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


i cant think of a bigger waste of time than trying to organize and radicalize chud america.

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

oops

that seems like a serious error

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


mastershakeman posted:

It's legitimately funny how strong govt laws are for disease outbreaks, it's very clear they were written back when every politician had grown up in eras of constant death from disease, knew tons of people who'd died from them, and took it insanely seriously

Louisville's nickname used to be the graveyard of the west because Tuberculosis and Cholera outbreaks occurred here with such regularity and ferocity during the early 19th century.

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Dreylad posted:

learned a fun fact about the pulp mill that supplies 3M in the states with the pulp needed for the N95 masks: they're worker owned after the employees and local investors bought out the previous owners when after 2008.

https://www.timescolonist.com/business/harmac-mill-is-thriving-decade-after-rescue-by-its-employees-1.23426829

that seems nice

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Man Musk posted:

Trump's already in charge

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Venom Snake posted:

you are asking people who've been beaten into mean dogs to not bite the hand that beats them. it's admirable, the point you are trying to get at here, but it's just too late.

edit: and im not even referring to myself here, i recognize the problems of capitalism yet I live fairly comfortably, posting in C-SPAM over the course of my posting career made me understand it's not doing even 1% as much harm to me as it's doing to an actually struggling worker.

Like I said to the goon earlier asking how to engage with their chud family, each person has to determine for themselves what they are capable of individually. But keep in mind that the most beaten down are out there fighting RIGHT NOW as evidenced by the constant churn of news itt about wildcat strikes and personal accounts from the front lines. They're literally risking their lives for slave wages and fighting for scraps of PPE and you've got armchair generalissimos here saying talking to those workers is a bridge too far as if that makes them a paragon of socialism and not useless idiots doing the bidding of the ruling class.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Gio posted:

i cant think of a bigger waste of time than trying to organize and radicalize chud america.

when conditions get bad enough that they're panicking then that would be a good time to reach out and bring them into the fold (and steamroll every single poo poo opinion and suggestion they have, offer no quarter)

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

On Facebook

Quetzadilla posted:

I agree but the broader point about solidarity is sound.

I don't know how anyone can on one hand be reading MadJackal's posts itt thinking about how horrible is and how they wish they could help in some way, and on the other hand poo poo on the idea of building any kind of solidarity with the unwashed masses. Meanwhile Bernie and AOC are turning their phone-canvassing infrastructure towards building mutual aid networks and spreading useful information to those who need it desperately. This is your call to action to fight to make things better and you're arguing for making GBS threads your pants and rolling around in it instead.

Here's the loving thing. Chuds have had the completely rewire their brains to deal with the cognitive dissonance resulting from the various conflicts in their world view to the point that being complete bad faith actors is as much of their personally as their loving first name. There are a lot more useful things to do in any socialist project than to try to convert them. Any concept of workers solidarity will be met with immediate dismissal from 99% of them. You're welcome to piss in the wind as long as you want but don't try and pretend you and you alone have found the only rway to bring about socialism. Because it sure as gently caress aint gonna work like that.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Sharkie posted:

i didn't read any of this because you insulted me instead of building solidarity with me. this is your fault.

I like your stance comrade.

Solidarity.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

This whole threads rules

https://twitter.com/dannolan/status/1246347372503822337?s=20

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


lmao imagining some goon trying to talk to some exurban boomers about the labor theory of value

Goon Boots
Feb 2, 2020


D1E
Nov 25, 2001


Dreylad posted:

there is some data that links high IQ people to higher rates of depression and suicide though, perfect for a situation like this

Truly intelligent people see the world as it is, and are cognizant of man's inhumanity to man.

Dumb people are oblivious.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
The main problem is that people view chuds as just like themselves, but with a different background which didn't expose them to the same liberal ideas. In reality these are mainly people who have literal real life brain damage due to chemical exposure. Scott Adams is a perfect example, as is Dinesh D'Souza. They are not capable of critical thinking, empathy or regret.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


lol

https://twitter.com/dannolan/status/1246347748015607809

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Salt Fish posted:

The main problem is that people view chuds as just like themselves, but with a different background which didn't expose them to the same liberal ideas. In reality these are mainly people who have literal real life brain damage due to chemical exposure. Scott Adams is a perfect example, as is Dinesh D'Souza. They are not capable of critical thinking, empathy or regret.

:eyepop:

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

Quetzadilla posted:

Like I said to the goon earlier asking how to engage with their chud family, each person has to determine for themselves what they are capable of individually. But keep in mind that the most beaten down are out there fighting RIGHT NOW as evidenced by the constant churn of news itt about wildcat strikes and personal accounts from the front lines. They're literally risking their lives for slave wages and fighting for scraps of PPE and you've got armchair generalissimos here saying talking to those workers is a bridge too far as if that makes them a paragon of socialism and not useless idiots doing the bidding of the ruling class.

gently caress off back to mobile gaming or whatever you post in already.

Droo
Jun 25, 2003

SKULL.GIF posted:

1,250,000 people die annually from car crashes, roughly 3300 a day

About 30-40k people per year in the US die from car crashes, or about 100 per day.

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!
They're going to be finding bodies in houses years after this has occurred

Anyways everyone else doing alright?

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
what kinda privileged rear end poo poo is "just sit down with them and talk" like yeah let me a gay dude just sit down with your average redditor and tell them why being gay isnt bad lmfao

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

SKULL.GIF posted:

when conditions get bad enough that they're panicking then that would be a good time to reach out and bring them into the fold (and steamroll every single poo poo opinion and suggestion they have, offer no quarter)

Certainly, it generally takes a large personal impact for reality to break through the shield of cognitive dissonance they've built around themselves. Once their comfort and safety has been compromised they become more open to basic arguments about how lovely our social safety net is and why it needs to be vastly improved. They have no ability to empathize with anyone in a different situation than theirs, so it requires them personally experiencing unemployment, loss of medical insurance, huge medical bills, etc...

Even then that doesn't always work. I've seen CHUDs with disabled kids and I absolutely can't understand how they can support a party that is actively trying to hurt those kids and would prefer it if they just didn't exist at all.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

I would find it embarrassing as gently caress to have video of me dieing because I lost it at 65mph on a corner....

I don't find pleasure in his probable death but I do think, what a oval office! should have learned the basics because dieing at 65mph is pretty lame.

ATP_Power
Jun 12, 2010

This is what fascinates me most in existence: the peculiar necessity of imagining what is, in fact, real.


https://twitter.com/adamsbombs/status/1246483304376946690

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Quetzadilla posted:

Like I said to the goon earlier asking how to engage with their chud family, each person has to determine for themselves what they are capable of individually. But keep in mind that the most beaten down are out there fighting RIGHT NOW as evidenced by the constant churn of news itt about wildcat strikes and personal accounts from the front lines. They're literally risking their lives for slave wages and fighting for scraps of PPE and you've got armchair generalissimos here saying talking to those workers is a bridge too far as if that makes them a paragon of socialism and not useless idiots doing the bidding of the ruling class.

The vast majority of trump voters were middle class to wealthy white people. For the most part you will not ever convince those people to see your side because your own politics is directly competing against theirs materially. Now because most people don't really understand things like "materialism" or "class analysis" it gets twisted and warped into "All chuds cannot be convinced".

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
is it too late to buy goats?

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

D1E
Nov 25, 2001


Trainee PornStar posted:

I would find it embarrassing as gently caress to have video of me dieing because I lost it at 65mph on a corner....

I don't find pleasure in his probable death but I do think, what a oval office! should have learned the basics because dieing at 65mph is pretty lame.

The 65mph thing just makes it extra funny.

Owned.

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Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Not enough work has been done to understand the pathology of conservatism, but debating away the disease is about as effective as debating away schizophrenia.

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