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Hekk posted:I dropped my Appendix J today requesting a retirement date. I have 20 years worth of questionable decisions and varied experiences. However, despite all of my regrets, one thing that has allowed me to look at myself in the mirror and not feel shame has been my consistent advocacy for junior Marines. I just got my pdrl message and date back after months of medical holds and of course it's during all this poo poo. I have the unusual route now of getting my dd214 all via email since my psd is shuttered. And of course my cac expires two weeks before my retirement date. On the plus side 21 years and pdrl plus 100% VA. Two checks and no recalls!
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PneumonicBook posted:Not to pile on (lol pile on incoming) because the Navy thread needs as many posters as it can get but wasn't Kalessin the poster that came in and talked about how they were an officer and after they were called a noble in good intentioned ribbing they melted down? Yes, you guys ran him out of here before for shameless O-posting like this. Exact same reaction and then he came back a couple days later doing the “aww shucks” poo poo and faded out.
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King of Bees posted:I just got my pdrl message and date back after months of medical holds and of course it's during all this poo poo. I have the unusual route now of getting my dd214 all via email since my psd is shuttered. And of course my cac expires two weeks before my retirement date. On the plus side 21 years and pdrl plus 100% VA. Two checks and no recalls! Congrats, I still have like 7 months to go but it's kind of a surreal feeling. All of the stuff for processing out is closed for me too. Additionally, our Doctor is now on quarantine since she was treating one of our guys who later tested positive for COVID-19. I don't know what the long term effects of this will be but HQMC just released guidance giving authority to local commanders to extend people within the fiscal year to allow them more time for processing out.
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Crew of the TR give an awesome sendoff to the captain. To paraphrase a random redditor, "Dudes probably never gonna have to pay for a drink at the bar ever again".
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I'm still salty flyboys get to wear their coveralls everywhere but surface and sub sailors do not. 
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Crew of the TR give an awesome sendoff to the captain. drat if you’re gonna get yourself fired, that’s the worthy way to do it.
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Apr 3, 2020 15:18
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piL posted:When Mercy is in port and not taking casualties via helo, does she have an elevator or something? They docked the Mercy at a cruise ship terminal if this explains anything for your. The cruise ship just hangs out by Catalina island now.
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I did not come to this decision lightly. I have no doubt in my mind that Captain Crozier did what he thought was in the best interests of the safety and well-being of his crew. Unfortunately, it did the opposite. It unnecessarily raised alarms with the families of our Sailors and Marines with no plan to address those concerns. It raised concerns about the operational capabilities and operational security of the ship that could have emboldened our adversaries to seek advantage, and it undermined the chain of command who had been moving and adjusting as rapidly as possible to get him the help he needed. lol This decision is not one of retribution. It is about confidence. It is not an indictment of character, but rather of judgement. While I do take issue with thevalidity of some of the points in Captain Crozier’s letter, he was absolutely correct in raising them. Haha
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LingcodKilla posted:I did not come to this decision lightly. I have no doubt in my mind that Captain Crozier did what he thought was in the best interests of the safety and well-being of his crew. Unfortunately, it did the opposite. It unnecessarily raised alarms with the families of our Sailors and Marines with no plan to address those concerns. It raised concerns about the operational capabilities and operational security of the ship that could have emboldened our adversaries to seek advantage, and it undermined the chain of command who had been moving and adjusting as rapidly as possible to get him the help he needed. Alternate reality findings from a Board of Inquiry for why CAPT Crozier did not exercise his rights as CO and deferred to CSG/HHQ and dozens of Sailors ended up dead
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:Yeah sure, a message about “focus on your people” and how some folks don’t focus on that is apparently controversial. It’s all good... Literally the point I was trying to make was the hosed up misalignment of priorities of various leadership training pipelines and how we need to actually return to our roots. But for reals, lemme know what the appropriate unwritten rules are before I dare to question the wisdom of our glorious leaders who have never experienced leadership roles. You must've checked the box to pay lowtax with your sense of humor instead of  when you signed up. Hekk threw down a good zinger, but nothing to lose your poo poo about. It's not like this is the current events thread.The Valley Stared posted:Look, we only blow up at sailors when our coffee isn't prepared properly by the plebians. Use of NAWDC's coffee mess requires an official memo to be submitted to the command chief. We didn't know that and had to get an exception to policy verbal approval when members of the Joint Staff visited.
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Goodpancakes posted:They docked the Mercy at a cruise ship terminal if this explains anything for your. The cruise ship just hangs out by Catalina island now. Yeah, I'd guess theres probably an elevator there then. Nick Soapdish posted:Alternate reality findings from a Board of Inquiry for why CAPT Crozier did not exercise his rights as CO and deferred to CSG/HHQ and dozens of Sailors ended up dead The buck stops with the CO, things in their control, things not. Sailors acting out? You didnt manage the command correctly. Not enough training or issues with equipment? Also the CO's fault. Good luck making predjudicial to good order and discipline stick. Maybe violated a lawful order regarding public affairs? It's not like hes some independent steaming Frigate operating 2,000 miles from his boss; the ISIC is on the same ship. I have a feeling they talked. piL fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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Apr 3, 2020 17:26
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orange juche posted:Navy thread gets a bit lively and all the Navy, ex-Navy, and Navy-adjacent goons start posting up a storm Any thread in a storm
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Crew of the TR give an awesome sendoff to the captain. From another angle. But, yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion this is going to turn a lot of apolitical sailors into anti-Trumpers. Sailors already don't trust Big Navy, and whatever flimsy excuse they use to justify this is going to go over like mixing at a COVID party.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:Lol, y’all too drat salty and apparently too drat touchy. For reals y’all bitches started off with the trolling because I was trying to make a point to say we need to loving focus on our people.... but ok w/e y’all wanna resort to pissing contests.... Literally a fuckin anecdotal example of how Navy leadership needs to reform gets spinned into yet another example of how the fuckin fragile white male ego will cause the downfall of our nation... cool story yo  Quality SWOposting
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Apr 3, 2020 18:36
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Please stop dogpiling on the poster who hasn't said anything in 12 hours.
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Apr 3, 2020 18:47
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AlternateNu posted:From another angle. Wow that would be nice, wouldn't it? I've got members of my law school arguing that the problem with our response to the coronavirus is one of personal philosophy and responsibility and they're getting support from the wing so I'm pretty sure our country is stupid as gently caress.
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I didn't realize that our interactions on the ship had been recorded. ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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Apr 3, 2020 20:40
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Ah yes, the ol' libertarian trap of wanting collective action but sabotaging any attempt to organize. "If God really wanted this thing to take place he would plant the seed sperately into every man's mind so they could wake up to the idea and not be told".
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ManMythLegend posted:I didn't realize that our interactions on the ship had been recorded. Good morning XO, thanks for attending a Zoom meeting in regards to a contact 7000 yards off the port bow my background us currently set to the scenic white sand beaches of Wake Island. The time is 1549, we are headed 000 relative at 6 knots, a sailing vessel bears 270 True at 7000 yards with a CPA of 2000 yards off the port beam in 94 minutes. I hold this as a crossing situation with us as the give way vessel. I intend to maintain course and speed and will be paradoxically be somehow coming about prior to CPA. The Captain has stopped taking my calls since we've been operating in a harbor.
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piL posted:Good morning XO, thanks for attending a Zoom meeting in regards to a contact 7000 yards off the port bow my background us currently set to the scenic white sand beaches of Wake Island. The time is 1549, we are headed 000 relative at 6 knots, a sailing vessel bears 270 True at 7000 yards with a CPA of 2000 yards off the port beam in 94 minutes. I hold this as a crossing situation with us as the give way vessel. I intend to maintain course and speed and will be paradoxically be somehow coming about prior to CPA. The Captain has stopped taking my calls since we've been operating in a harbor. Very well OOW, sound five short from your bedroom
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SuperSix posted:Very well OOW, sound five short from your bedroom Bedroom?
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Looks like Congress might be a tad miffed at the SECNAV and the Navy over the firing
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orange juche posted:Aren't you like the only extant senior noble Geizkragen or however tf you spell it might still be in. I got out in 2018
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One of my former Shipmates posted about this being jacked up on The Book and a Don't Tread On Me Man said this was absolutely necessary. OPSEC. Now the world knows there is a carrier moored in Guam and they're not combat effective! Yeah ya know nobody could have figured that one out minus the letter.
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maffew buildings posted:One of my former Shipmates posted about this being jacked up on The Book and a Don't Tread On Me Man said this was absolutely necessary. OPSEC. Now the world knows there is a carrier moored in Guam and they're not combat effective! https://twitter.com/USNINews/status/1244633155946057728?s=20 Those people claiming OPSEC are the most mouth breathing motherfuckers in the world
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And: http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html
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https://www.navy.mil/navydata/nav_legacy.asp?id=146
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There are armies of boat nerds all over the world that photograph every cool boat entering and leaving every port and there's at least two dozen OSINT firms that compile this and other data and sell it or just post it in twitter for funsies. I think most of them comb through satellite photos every X days too.
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When all you have to grasp at are straws, straws are what you grasp at
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Scratch Monkey posted:When all you have to grasp at are straws, straws are what you grasp at You gotta get enough to make a man you can blow over easily.
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Cross posting from the Traditional Games GM Advice thread.sebmojo posted:Yep. Ships are basically big monsters. Can confirm.
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While I admire CAPT Crozier's regard for his crew and other embarked Sailors, if it the situation sent down the way the SECNAV said then his firing was justified.
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I have zero faith in the current SECNAV so literally any credibility is better than his.
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M_Gargantua posted:I have zero faith in the current SECNAV so literally any credibility is better than his.
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Either a highly experienced career officer decided "gently caress it" and completely sidestepped his entire chain of command in the most public way possible, despite knowing that the help he was asking for was going to arrive the next day; or, big navy bureaucracy was dragging its feet and more concerned about optics than actually addressing a critical problem. One of those two situations has happened multiple documented times in the last few years.
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vulturesrow posted:While I admire CAPT Crozier's regard for his crew and other embarked Sailors, if it the situation sent down the way the SECNAV said then his firing was justified. https://twitter.com/DavidLarter/status/1245843768143745024?s=19 M_Gargantua posted:I have zero faith in the current SECNAV so literally any credibility is better than his.
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M_Gargantua posted:I have zero faith in the current SECNAV so literally any credibility is better than his.
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