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VagueRant posted:When the plate collapses it cuts to a shot of Cait Sith (just the little kitty from on top) overlooking it and dropping to his knees and banging a fist on the ground. Cait Sith is really just Reeve's super expensive, high tech fursuit that he "lives in" all the time that he's not being a normie at work.
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The Dave posted:Always seemed to me like people don't understand or get confused past "The bad guy is going to destroy the planet, also his mom is a head or something." Capitalism is Bad. I think most people understand that. Cyberpunk is not a genre known for its subtlety. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cL1HisrNc
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Gologle posted:This is easily explained by Cait Sith being a time traveler who is trying to stop Sephiroth from changing the timeline. I would actually be okay with this change.
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Unironically thank God I read this thread. I really, really wanted just a straight remake, Capcom style. I think I would have probably been so angry if I would have waited until I bought the game to find out they are loving the story all up. I’m still really excited to play the game, and see everything, but now I can just let my expectations go, open a bottle of liquor and enjoy whatever ridiculous poo poo it is that they decided to do here.
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I'd say if they're sincerely engaging in an intricate and memorable commentary on the nature of remakes, while paying due respect to the source material then that's awesome. But I don't think anyone involved has those kind of chops and this just seems to be a self indulgent trolling of the fan base.
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I think the most likely thing is they saw the potential backlash when the average customer realises this is only part 1, and they can't profitably string people along for 3+ years at a time between releases on a story that's already been told. So they slapped together this fate changing, hey, now it's an unknown journey - so all the fans will definitely just HAVE to buy the next part and see what happens!
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Apr 5, 2020 17:33
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I feel like it's probably a creative decision made so that its creators wouldn't go crazy having to spend a decade of their lives perfectly recreating someone else's already finished story. Imagine how draining/maddening that would be. this gives them a way to make the project theirs again, while toeing the line by still keeping it a remake.
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I can definitely see that from a marketing perspective, though. You’re throwing this much money into a project, so you’re going to want to entice fans to keep coming back for each iteration, while also trying to make each piece seem like a complete game in itself. And yeah, there’s a subset of fans who would eat up each game if it were a 1:1 remake, but relying on that assumption is a massive risk from a corporate perspective. This way, they can release a series of full games that keeps both old and new fans in the dark somewhat, while also giving the original team a chance to take a second stab at telling this story. Cephas posted:I feel like it's probably a creative decision made so that its creators wouldn't go crazy having to spend a decade of their lives perfectly recreating someone else's already finished story. Imagine how draining/maddening that would be. this gives them a way to make the project theirs again, while toeing the line by still keeping it a remake. Basically this. But it was also mostly their story to begin with. Now they can shed the Compilation nonsense (if they want to) and start from scratch.
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People saying the Remake should just be a graphical uplift have no idea what they're asking for. Let's say they do that. You'd then hear "well, they could've made this look more modern" or "this doesn't really cut it today". As others have noted, people would whine no matter what, so they might as well go nuts with it. I'm glad they're doing it this way, though it remains to be seen whether they can eventually close it out in a sensible manner.
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Apr 5, 2020 21:35
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Simiain posted:I'd say if they're sincerely engaging in an intricate and memorable commentary on the nature of remakes, while paying due respect to the source material then that's awesome. I'm a fan and I'd give the game a 10 if the side quests NPCs weren't ugly.
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HD DAD posted:Basically this. But it was also mostly their story to begin with. Now they can shed the Compilation nonsense (if they want to) and start from scratch. It'll all be worth it if this jettisons Advent Children from the canon
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Apr 5, 2020 23:09
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Simiain posted:I'd say if they're sincerely engaging in an intricate and memorable commentary on the nature of remakes, while paying due respect to the source material then that's awesome. Nobody does things for the sole purpose of "trolling the fanbase".
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Apr 5, 2020 23:12
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Blockhouse posted:Nobody does things for the sole purpose of "trolling the fanbase". Exactly. This was their escape from being shackled down by “canon” and gives them wiggle room to make the game they want.
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Apr 5, 2020 23:18
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Blockhouse posted:Nobody does things for the sole purpose of "trolling the fanbase". Kojima totally would. But this ain't a Kojima game. This is more Nomura/Nojima/whoever else getting high on mushrooms while watching rebuild of eva and thinking they could do it better
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Apr 5, 2020 23:19
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DemoneeHo posted:Kojima totally would. But this ain't a Kojima game. Nomura doesn't get high, don't be ridiculous. He gets drunk. That's how he came up with the idea for KH: Recoded.
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Apr 5, 2020 23:26
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Onmi posted:Nomura doesn't get high, don't be ridiculous. Right, right. I always get developers and their choice of mind-altering substance mixed up. Reminds me of how ZUN once composed an entire Touhou game while drunk and had no recollection of doing so.
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The impression I get from interviews with Japanese devs is that most of them are functional alcoholics and an alarming number of projects are conceptualized at bars. I don’t think Yoko Taro has been sober for 20 years.
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Apr 6, 2020 00:39
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So are these DLC summons found in the normal game at all or are they purely DLC exclusive? Chocobo, Cactaur, and Carbuncle.
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Apr 6, 2020 00:54
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Hard mode is hard.
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Mywhatacleanturtle posted:The impression I get from interviews with Japanese devs is that most of them are functional alcoholics and an alarming number of projects are conceptualized at bars. Neither have I so it's fine
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Apr 6, 2020 01:03
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I can't fathom the people saying this won't do as well as a straight remake would have done Controversy sells. Pretend I posted that Call of Duty "boycott" image here
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Onmi posted:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/242093653328134145/696180913599545364/NO_SPOILERS_REEEE.webm At first I hated them, but now I realize that the Time Ghosts are the best characters. They just want a 1:1 VII Remake and they're so angry at Nomura for changing the script. 
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Apr 6, 2020 01:10
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precision posted:I can't fathom the people saying this won't do as well as a straight remake would have done Im sure the greater general population will be absolutely fine with this and those most hurt by it will be those that refuse to call Aerith by her real name. Like almost a perfect circle venn diagram sort of thing.
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Apr 6, 2020 01:14
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“Hey granddad! What did the Arbiters of Fate boss fight look like on the PS1?!” *old nerd starts loving bleeding out of his eyes*
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Apr 6, 2020 01:16
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the cherry on top of all this is gonna be when the time cop ghosts refer to her as aeris
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Pyrus Malus posted:the cherry on top of all this is gonna be when the time cop ghosts refer to her as aeris That would be amazing lol
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Cao Ni Ma posted:refuse to call Aerith by her real name. I'm hardly what you'd call attached to FF7 (I rank IX and VI above it), but I still say Aeris because Aerith just sounds... weird to me. Like it's not a name, but a chemical.
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Aerith is supposedly supposed to be a play on the word "Earth", likely based around the fact that she was originally designed to be a Geomancer.
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I say Aeris because the game I played called her that Like it's not a hill I'm dying on but the version I played literally called her that so that's her name to me 
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I heard that there's supposed to be a scene where Cloud and Co. come across the entryway to Deepground and the ghosts show up and just usher them the gently caress away from there. Does anyone know where I can see that scene? Because it sounds hilarious.
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Pyrus Malus posted:the cherry on top of all this is gonna be when the time cop ghosts refer to her as aeris oh my god please this would be so incredible
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Pyrus Malus posted:the cherry on top of all this is gonna be when the time cop ghosts refer to her as aeris I would take back every bad thing or doubt I had about the game tbh.
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precision posted:I say Aeris because the game I played called her that
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Both names are valid -- Aeris if you know how to read and have a normal brain, or Aerith if you have a bad hosed up brain or a speech impediment
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Everyone saying Mah-ko is doing my head in
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Harrow posted:oh my god please this would be so incredible There's literally no reason for them to do that because it's strictly a Western only thing. They couldn't replicate it in Japanese.
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Elephant Ambush posted:There's literally no reason for them to do that because it's strictly a Western only thing. They couldn't replicate it in Japanese. I know that but they could still do it in the English version and just never draw attention to it  I mean they won't but it'd be hilarious
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Apr 6, 2020 02:46
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personally, im rooting for the time ghosts
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Elephant Ambush posted:There's literally no reason for them to do that because it's strictly a Western only thing. They couldn't replicate it in Japanese. FFXIVs localization is radically different from english to japanese. They can absolutely fit a joke like that if they wanted to just for the westerners
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