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Lambert posted:Also, shaggar is a moron. If you agree with an opinion shaggar has, you might be a moron as well. Yeah? Well I'm a moron and I don't agree with Shaggar: what now? Checkmate, atheists!
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You just place your CPU on the socket and pull down the lever, same as with Intel CPUs. I really don't get where in this process you would ever be able to bend or break pins.
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Apr 6, 2020 00:54
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Lambert posted:Shaggar has no practical experience with anything he is critical of. sir, this is a yospos
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Apr 6, 2020 00:58
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Lambert posted:You just place your CPU on the socket and pull down the lever, same as with Intel CPUs. I really don't get where in this process you would ever be able to bend or break pins. pulling the cpu out at an angle via the heatsink, apparently personally, i'm filing it along side all the rocket surgeons who managed to crack the die on the og athlon cpus. not a great design, but also not an issue if you're careful.
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Apr 6, 2020 01:01
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needed to move a mobo and cpu in luggage a couple months back, ended up just leaving the cpu attached to the motherboard to avoid pins getting hosed up by the move
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Apr 6, 2020 01:26
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Lambert posted:Except it's very hard to "break" pins. What the gently caress are you doing, are you using a hammer to seat your CPU? except its not because they're pretty easy to bend. they're thin metal and because of the extremely bad socket design on amd CPUs that cements CPUs to coolers it makes them even more likely to bend. you'd have to be pretty goddamned stupid to defend AMD still using pins
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Apr 6, 2020 01:29
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lol
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Apr 6, 2020 01:51
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twist all coolers. intel or amd. some brands of thermal grease are like epoxy when it dries out.
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Apr 6, 2020 02:10
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imo id rather have the pins on the cpu. in my price bracket the two cost about the same, but a zif socket is designed for a lot more insertions than lga. if you touch an lga socket at all, good chance youve hosed it, either with skin oil or by slightly tweaking those leaf finger contact things. and you'll never get them perfect again. pins are a lot more forgiving, in my experience. straighten em with a credit card or something, the socket will pull em straight if you get em close number of amd cpus ive seen dead from bent pins: like 2 or 3 number of intel mobos ive seen dead from bent lga sockets: couple boxes. like 20 maybe?
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pro tip: don't touch the lga socket. don't touch the cpu pins either. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Apr 6, 2020 03:24
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pro tip: gently caress and cum in ur mobo socket
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Apr 6, 2020 03:40
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no, you see, my anecdote will be data
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Apr 6, 2020 03:55
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Almost any cpu worth buying cost more than a motherboard so I’d prefer the pins be on the motherboard.
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Apr 6, 2020 04:22
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Raluek posted:imo id rather have the pins on the cpu. in my price bracket the two cost about the same, but a zif socket is designed for a lot more insertions than lga. you made me go look it up depending on vendor and the specific socket, intel lga sockets are rated for 15 to 30 insertions. why on earth would you be doing more than 15 insertions in the lifespan of a single motherboard?
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Apr 6, 2020 05:07
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I think I'd prefer the pins to be on the CPU but also for them to spend $2 more designing a bent piece of metal that locks it in place like the intels. https://i.imgur.com/Q5JoUT5.mp4
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Apr 6, 2020 05:41
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the amd socket is pretty poverty tier feeling except the threadripper socket. thats a beefy boy
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Apr 6, 2020 06:10
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pram posted:the amd socket is pretty poverty tier feeling i assume the threadripper socket is probably the epyc socket
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Apr 6, 2020 06:18
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 thats some good poo poo right there
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Apr 6, 2020 06:39
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pram posted:
yes, threadripper and epyc are ... extremely good and cool
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Apr 6, 2020 06:48
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lambert
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theadder posted:lambert hosed up, but true
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pram posted:
overengineering the cpu socket is some poo poo I can get behind
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Apr 6, 2020 07:53
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I want to have to set it down like a head on a high perfmornace engine with torque wrnches etc
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you made me go look it up testing cpus?  i did think it was fewer than that thoPerplx posted:Almost any cpu worth buying cost more than a motherboard so I’d prefer the pins be on the motherboard. last time i built a machine for myself (which was some time ago ill admit) both the cpu and board were around $250, if memory serves infernal machines posted:pro tip: don't touch the lga socket. well yeah, sure. durability doesnt matter if you never gently caress up. but you can touch the pins on a zif cpu, or like set it down on a table, without killing it, unlike an lga socket. obviously you should do neither thing, but sometimes non-ideal things happen
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pram posted:
Pictured: a 50% scale model of a Threadripper CPU
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echinopsis posted:I want to have to set it down like a head on a high perfmornace engine with torque wrnches etc that latch mechanism actually requires three torx screws to open and close https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0IbxYyN1Dg
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Apr 6, 2020 14:25
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lmao I just noticed the thermal grease is mayo
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r u ready to WALK posted:I bought a 3900x system last week, didn't like the noise levels on the stock amd "wraith prism" cooler and upgraded to a noctua nh-u9s this week exact same thing happened to me. mercifully things work after re-aligning all of the pins.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:lmao I just noticed the thermal grease is mayo https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermal-paste-performance-benchmark,3616-16.html
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Apr 6, 2020 15:08
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:why on earth would you be doing more than 15 insertions in the lifespan of a single motherboard? pls don't use outdated gender norms to shame your mom
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Apr 6, 2020 15:11
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lol i remember accidentally yanking a socket 939 cpu straight out of the socket when i was trying to pull off the heatsink. got lucky and didn't bend any pins though. this is still a thing with AMD cpus? lol (that said i can't remember the last time i dismounted a cpu heatsink. maybe 2014?)
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Apr 6, 2020 15:14
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echinopsis posted:I want to have to set it down like a head on a high perfmornace engine with torque wrnches etc I had to swap one of these out that had bad PCI lanes and the service manual they sent with it had torque specs
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the present amd socket is bad and there's no real argument it's a cheap piece of poo poo that looks dated to 2002 and making a better one is a pittance
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echinopsis posted:I want to have to set it down like a head on a high perfmornace engine with torque wrnches etc i remember reading ages ago in some tech journal about an (ibm?) server where whatever custom processor / socket they were using required hundreds of pounds of insertion force. so that does exist somewhere
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Apr 7, 2020 00:26
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badass although why lol would it require that
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Apr 7, 2020 00:33
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I don’t know but I’ve seen some sockets for unsoldered bga chips (for development boards where you want to change the chip) that take a hell of a lot of pressure. I assume it’s to make a solid electrical contact without the solder.
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Apr 7, 2020 01:12
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bendy pins are the price you pay for superior performance
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lol jim silly balls takes a massive load
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Broken Machine posted:i remember reading ages ago in some tech journal about an (ibm?) server where whatever custom processor / socket they were using required hundreds of pounds of insertion force. so that does exist somewhere sun and ibm have both shipped products that required a torque wrench to get the correct forces on the socket
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i made a fan shroud in openscad, there's two 80mm fans behind it sucking hot air from the cpu out of the case it's neat to see this thing score 7100 points in cinebench and still be almost completely silent, noctua makes good stuff
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