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Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

The real joke is that Trump slashed costs and removed the parachutes beforehand. And had the cheap engines that failed installed.

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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

E-Tank posted:

If someone genuinely believes Donald "back the bus over 'em" Trump would give his life for a child to live, then I don't think there's any possibility for rehabilitation.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Jurgan posted:

Can someone translate this phrase?
"My phone is garbage"

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so
I’m more picturing that scene from Seinfeld with George running from the fire.

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
I don't even remember the original version of that joke but it was probably either racist or an Aggie/blonde joke (they are interchangeable)

E-Tank
Aug 4, 2011

I'm so sorry, the stupidity is terminal.

:suicide:

Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

TheKennedys posted:

I don't even remember the original version of that joke but it was probably either racist or an Aggie/blonde joke (they are interchangeable)

it was a blonde joke in the 90s for sure, dunno prior to that

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe

TheKennedys posted:

I don't even remember the original version of that joke but it was probably either racist or an Aggie/blonde joke (they are interchangeable)

I had heard it in the 90's using: the Pope, a boy scout, some politician, and Al Sharpton (the smartest black man in America). Feels like something that probably hails from the 50's or 60's.

Master Twig
Oct 25, 2007

I want to branch out and I'm going to stick with it.

zeroprime posted:

I had heard it in the 90's using: the Pope, a boy scout, some politician, and Al Sharpton (the smartest black man in America). Feels like something that probably hails from the 50's or 60's.

Someone on my facebook feed posted the exact same thing, but with Trump and Hillary switched, and the child is Greta Thunberg.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Lol gently caress :suicide:

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

So many daddy issues.

Kidney Stone
Dec 28, 2008

The worst pain ever!

Trump is here seen getting a hug from his young gay lover.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Anonymous
The Infection of Jesus, 2020
Digital

jjack229
Feb 14, 2008
Articulate your needs. I'm here to listen.

TheKennedys posted:

I don't even remember the original version of that joke but it was probably either racist or an Aggie/blonde joke (they are interchangeable)

The version that we told when I was a child did not have any named person in it. It was a doctor, the world's smartest man, the pilot, and the kid. Maybe one more person that was their occupation, but no names or races or hair colors.

To be clear, we did have terrible blonde jokes and racist jokes, just this wasn't one of them.

jjack229 fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Apr 6, 2020

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet

jjack229 posted:

The version that we told when I was a child did not have any named person in it. It was a doctor, the world's smartest man, the pilot, and the kid. Maybe one more person that was their occupation, but no names or races or hair colors.

To be clear, we did have terrible blonde jokes and racist jokes, just this wasn't one of them.

That's likely it, the Aggie/blonde/racist jokes were rampant but that dings a memory of it being a silly completely inoffensive Reader's Digest thing, so you're probably right.

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003


I didn't realize Jesus was 7 feet tall!

Those are some very obvious photoshop filters too. The creator just cut and pasted pictures together and ran it through some filters.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Alterian posted:

I didn't realize Jesus was 7 feet tall!

Those are some very obvious photoshop filters too. The creator just cut and pasted pictures together and ran it through some filters.

Are you saying this photo was faked? Huge if true.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
I bet this thread has hashed it to hell and back, but... what are the preferred strategies to deal with fox news-poisoned parents?

My mother has started to share "just asking questions" videos in the family's main communication channel. Questions such as "corona is a CHINESE BIOWEAPON, carefully prepared ina Chinese laboratory, we must counterattack!!1!1".
I have shut that poo poo right down, and called to explain that I don't share fake bullshit, and also that "Oh I didnt make the video, I dont know" is cowardice. And that "well that's a matter of perspective, all data has an agenda" is bullshit, if your argument is that we cant rely on reuters data that criticises china, because it has am american agenda.

So yeah... I've been shooting down all of the stupid Shapiroisms, but what else could I do?

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Dawncloack posted:

I bet this thread has hashed it to hell and back, but... what are the preferred strategies to deal with fox news-poisoned parents?

My mother has started to share "just asking questions" videos in the family's main communication channel. Questions such as "corona is a CHINESE BIOWEAPON, carefully prepared ina Chinese laboratory, we must counterattack!!1!1".
I have shut that poo poo right down, and called to explain that I don't share fake bullshit, and also that "Oh I didnt make the video, I dont know" is cowardice. And that "well that's a matter of perspective, all data has an agenda" is bullshit, if your argument is that we cant rely on reuters data that criticises china, because it has am american agenda.

So yeah... I've been shooting down all of the stupid Shapiroisms, but what else could I do?

Sever.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Dawncloack posted:

I bet this thread has hashed it to hell and back, but... what are the preferred strategies to deal with fox news-poisoned parents?

My mother has started to share "just asking questions" videos in the family's main communication channel. Questions such as "corona is a CHINESE BIOWEAPON, carefully prepared ina Chinese laboratory, we must counterattack!!1!1".
I have shut that poo poo right down, and called to explain that I don't share fake bullshit, and also that "Oh I didnt make the video, I dont know" is cowardice. And that "well that's a matter of perspective, all data has an agenda" is bullshit, if your argument is that we cant rely on reuters data that criticises china, because it has am american agenda.

So yeah... I've been shooting down all of the stupid Shapiroisms, but what else could I do?

I gave up a while back. I love my parents but I'm never changing their mind that Trump is an amazing gift from God. I should have known when in early 2016 I shared something about Trump on Facebook and my mom told me my dad was nearly in tears because I was "A Hillary lover" (I was the furthest thing from a Hillary lover).

Facts have no place in these arguments, so I just do my weekly call to talk about the weather and my dog.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Depending on where it's being shared and what's that's like, you can take a less direct approach by saying 'this isn't a place for politics, it's about family'. My extended family has a Whatsapp channel that is used for family talk, but anyone starting to post political stuff gets brought up short and told to share it elsewhere. It's usually pretty straightforward - 'there are lots of different views in our family, this channel is not for debating them but for sharing about ourselves and keeping in touch. If you didn't write it and it's not about us, it doesn't belong here'. It helps that we've also exiled other stuff in the same way - fantasy league chat got sent to another channel because it was like 400+ posts a day about team management and grandma does not want to see that.

If its just mom pounding out her facebook with links, it's tougher to deal with. :(

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Medullah posted:

I gave up a while back. I love my parents but I'm never changing their mind that Trump is an amazing gift from God. I should have known when in early 2016 I shared something about Trump on Facebook and my mom told me my dad was nearly in tears because I was "A Hillary lover" (I was the furthest thing from a Hillary lover).

Facts have no place in these arguments, so I just do my weekly call to talk about the weather and my dog.

This is what gets me, their positions come with so little nuance that you literally can't get them to shift their views slightly. It's always all-or-nothing. If you're not voting for Trump you love whoever runs against Trump. There can't be a problem with Trump, you can't dislike Trump and be a moderate Republican, nobody's actually socialist, there's nothing left of the Democrats except riot mobs... I had SO many problems with Hillary, and still every time I brought up a problem I had with Trump, my relatives would say "Well, HILLARY-" I don't give a poo poo about Hillary. I don't give a poo poo about the DNC. It's like they're trying to win a duel by catching your bullet and throwing it back at your heart, but they have no idea where the gently caress your heart is so they somehow shoot themselves twice.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
They are being radicalized and programmed. If you care enough to stop them from finishing this, you have to approach this as a de-radicalization and deprogramming.

There is no possibility of approaching them with logic to get this done. It is, at its core, deeply emotionally driven. They want to believe this poo poo, and you need to address that and help them replace it with something that doesn't involve brain worms.

It won't be fast. It won't be easy. It won't be clean.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Not worth it, unless they are personally effected by something they won’t change their minds.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Dawncloack posted:

I bet this thread has hashed it to hell and back, but... what are the preferred strategies to deal with fox news-poisoned parents?

My mother has started to share "just asking questions" videos in the family's main communication channel. Questions such as "corona is a CHINESE BIOWEAPON, carefully prepared ina Chinese laboratory, we must counterattack!!1!1".
I have shut that poo poo right down, and called to explain that I don't share fake bullshit, and also that "Oh I didnt make the video, I dont know" is cowardice. And that "well that's a matter of perspective, all data has an agenda" is bullshit, if your argument is that we cant rely on reuters data that criticises china, because it has am american agenda.

So yeah... I've been shooting down all of the stupid Shapiroisms, but what else could I do?

:sever:

The e/n way or the cspam way

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
I will admit that I don't know how Cspam does it's severing.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

Dawncloack posted:

I will admit that I don't know how Cspam does it's severing.

:guillotine:

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

My mom chose her crazy beliefs over me and her only grandkids. I had to sever communication last August for my own sake and haven't talked to her since.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!



Deus Ex was a pretty good game. Not real though.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
What a shame.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

No need to worry about covid-19, because it doesn't exist can't happen here is just the flu everyone was already infected months ago and got better!

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

There's only one cold virus in the world, it just has a lot of hats and fake mustaches

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes


jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Should have been the screenshot for "do you have a single fact to back that up?"

Really, you could respond to nearly all of this poo poo with any Deus Ex screenshot

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

Medullah posted:

Facts have no place in these arguments, so I just do my weekly call to talk about the weather and my dog.
This is the unfortunate, correct answer. Goon in a well. You can help by providing resources and demonstrate better approaches, but there's a certain point where some combination of dogma and Kubler-Ross prevents them from drowning without a full Orwellian intervention.

Earlier today I was so offended by the stupidity that I gave up on a 60yo+ acquaintance. I hope she'll return in a few months but for now I'm not initiating or responding to any coronavirus stuff. If she tells me about the person she knows who is in the hospital, fine, I'll be nice. If she asks how I am, I'll focus on working from home annoyances and progress on my chores.

I've never seen this change be quite so rapid, from someone who is actively reading, thinking, and aware, to a person who constantly strawmans, ignores facts and statistics, appeals to false authority, etc. This:
This was her story almost 8wk ago. Never mind that the first reported case in the state was the end of January, that she doesn't travel for work, that no one at her Xmas parties was or got sick. Naup, the virus apparently took a quick jet stream trip to infect her the day after Christmas. I've tried twice in the last month but as soon as you mention basic probability and the timeline, the argument becomes "then I won't know until they have an antibody test".

For weeks the CDC was stupid, but of course today when I mentioned the WHO recommendations, naup the CDC is the authority.

There's a ton of denial and anger floating around with all this. It truly reveals character quickly. I try to always provide links (X dept says this) unless it's an anecdote (shelves were empty). For some, this will be the end, either because "they predicted it and will make it so" or because they'll never recover (mentally, socially, culturally). Others are going to use it as an excuse for everything for the next decade (eg the Presidential election).

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


A bunch of my family members post this one all the time. I don't get it. I mean, I get it, it's saying "Just because I think America shouldn't let it Mexicans doesn't mean I'm a racist!"

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


The worst part about that parachute joke is not that it’s just recycled madlibs style, but that anyone thinks this sort of joke is clever in 2020. It’s just played out. Progressive commercials are funnier.

Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

There's not enough coronavirus tests to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate.

Your turn.

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Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Scholtz posted:

There's not enough coronavirus tests to go around, and the underclasses are starting to get desperate.

Your turn.

It's not the first catastrophe that that game has predicted :tinfoil:

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