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Communist Thoughts posted:out of the big commie writers Trotsky was the one one who could write bearably I'm a fan of Trotsky's history of the Russian revolution. It's a hefty volume but you'll not find a more thorough, well-written first-hand account of those events.
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:LMAO if you're not hardline Posadist
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Part of the reason to insist on Tlaib is to force libs to admit there's no actual concession they'd be willing to make to their left, and they'd rather they just go away even if that means they lose everything forever. What'll happen is that he'll pick some machine approved moderate and everybody will just pretend she's super progressive and the left is just being unreasonable!PawParole posted:a Tammy Baldwin vp would be a start. I think that liberals would view Tlaib as a concession too big to make, and nominating a progressive at the very least should be the start of negotiations. Is Baldwin good? Not familiar with stuff she supports or has done
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Epic High Five posted:Is Baldwin good? Not familiar with stuff she supports or has done baldwin is like a hybrid between buttigiegs generically nonoffensive gayness and klobuchars white woman democratic machine energy and i cant see what she brings to the ticket when those were the first main two people to fall in line behind biden without question but dont take my word for it take a gander at her twitter feed and observe her suspiciously strong silence on the question of whether wisconsin should insist on holding a primary even if it needlessly murders a giant chunk of the base
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navyjack posted:I wish Biden hadn’t done any rapes. Both because, rape is bad (duh) and I wish it hadn’t happened to Tara, but because I was going to troll all the “Blue No Matter Who” types with a list of concessions I would require to get my vote. Alas, “no rapin’” is a hill I shall die on, so my trolling will just be “not voting for a raper.” Of course there are things Biden could have done to earn my vote and support, but he won't do those things because he's Joe Biden. Also, he's a rapist, so ... *taps the sign*
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navyjack posted:I wish Biden hadn’t done any rapes. Both because, rape is bad (duh) and I wish it hadn’t happened to Tara, but because I was going to troll all the “Blue No Matter Who” types with a list of concessions I would require to get my vote. Alas, “no rapin’” is a hill I shall die on, so my trolling will just be “not voting for a raper.” He couldn't have done anything to win my vote short of inventing a time machine and not doing almost any given thing from his past. It's crazy to think that in every other run he justly lost because he's a lying racist idiot, and the only reason he's the bastion of hope for the dems this round is because obama needed an old white racist to balance out the ticket.
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Andorra posted:He couldn't have done anything to win my vote short of inventing a time machine and not doing almost any given thing from his past. promise???
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Tetracube posted:oh is the PSL loving trots it’s explicitly an ml party, unless somehow the party has ideologically split from its Liberation School. I’ve met a few trots at some of the discussion series but they weren’t part of the party.
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I don't understand much about communist and socialist theories, or what trots or tankies or strasserites or praxis are, but it seems to me it's going to be difficult to get labor behind any kind of social movement when all the manufacturing jobs have gone overseas and so many people are gig workers who essentially work for themselves.
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NotWearingPants posted:I don't understand much about communist and socialist theories, or what trots or tankies or strasserites or praxis are, but it seems to me it's going to be difficult to get labor behind any kind of social movement when all the manufacturing jobs have gone overseas and so many people are gig workers who essentially work for themselves. strasserites are Nazis, and tankies are what everybody's gonna be this time next year
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Alien communists sending UFOs? Ridiculous, who could come up with such an idea! Now excuse me while I check to see what I have set for the Sol III observation post in my current game of Stellaris with fanatic egalitarian not romulans running shared burdens...
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Posadism wasn't wrong about the only likely way for an independent socialist revolution to happen in south america being if the USSR and USA annihilated each other with nukes
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i flunked out posted:it’s explicitly an ml party, unless somehow the party has ideologically split from its Liberation School. I’ve met a few trots at some of the discussion series but they weren’t part of the party. I keeping reading this as a discussion about the pumpkin spice latte party (who obv nominated Karen) and the machine learning party, who nominated a bot made up of a markov chain of trump tweets
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Those are going to come in a few years, don't worry
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Chris James 2 posted:Wisconsin still on for tomorrow https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-preview-yes-wisconsin-is-still-holding-its-primary-on-tuesday/ https://twitter.com/NickRiccardi/status/1247220058218061827 constitutional crisis time baby
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Raskolnikov38 posted:https://twitter.com/NickRiccardi/status/1247220058218061827 Yep, going to the Supreme Court https://twitter.com/MollyBeck/status/1247219956892217349
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i flunked out posted:it’s explicitly an ml party, unless somehow the party has ideologically split from its Liberation School. I’ve met a few trots at some of the discussion series but they weren’t part of the party. I might have mixed up psl with socialist alternative, my last real memory of psl was the weird vandalizing of their office in Albuquerque a couple years ago, which all stunk of weird trot shenanigans
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funniest outcome is bernie somehow winning tomorrow and tom perez going "well we can't have that" and announcing they won't seat the wisconsin delegates
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this is the least legitimate nomination process in a long time
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Squizzle posted:this is the least legitimate nomination process in a long time least legitimate nomination since the last one, only to be exceeded by the next one
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Tetracube posted:I don't remember why trots suck anymore other than they turn out to be rapists a lot for some baffling reason. I'm pretty sure I remember them sucking though the stereotype is that american trotskyists think electoralism is a waste of time but then also don't do anything but scare away libs who are dipping their toes into leftism alternatively, all trots are undercover cops also they print a newspaper meant to be targeted at the american working class but if anyone was honest about building a media ecosystem that serves the american working class it would be in spanish
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Shear Modulus posted:the stereotype is that american trotskyists think electoralism is a waste of time but then also don't do anything but scare away libs who are dipping their toes into leftism to be fair, when the ISO existed, they produced a spanish edition of their paper
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Mr. Lobe posted:I'm a fan of Trotsky's history of the Russian revolution. It's a hefty volume but you'll not find a more thorough, well-written first-hand account of those events. I've read through this and it was very digestible. I think Stalin was a better written though. He very clearly and easily communicates thoughts that Lenin and Marx made confusing. More people should start with Stalin and move back to Marx if they still feel the compulsion imo. I think the name intimidates people into not reading him.
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a god drat idiot posted:I've read through this and it was very digestible. I think Stalin was a better written though. He very clearly and easily communicates thoughts that Lenin and Marx made confusing. Same, Stalin really did a great job until he got into power, and uhh, yeah. Mistakes were made.
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so anything new on wisconsin? seems like the kind of thing you'd want decided before 5pm local time
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Joey Steel posted:Same, Stalin really did a great job until he got into power, and uhh, yeah. Mistakes were made. did a little whoopsie and betrayed the revolution
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Did this not get posted here? Because  https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1246547204455759872
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Did this not get posted here? Because I think it did, but man, the next 7 months are going to be a masterclass in skullfucking.
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the amount of German and Scandinavian language tweets about the Wisconsin primary is highly amusing to me
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Modest Mao posted:communist sectarianism is an anachronism
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Did this not get posted here? Because I was going to say yes it has been posted here, but that may have been succ zone Fans of Dem primaries may also enjoy the succ zone
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