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Prince John posted:Assuming this is true and not just some puff piece to create a hardworking martyr narrative, it's striking how much little he trusts his subordinates. I don't think anyone in the country would give a proverbial if he went on sick leave for a few days and handed over the reigns to his deputy - it's what the rest of us do. But he's terrified of leaving them in charge. He's spent his entire life wanting to be Prime Minister, for no reason other than that he wants to be Prime Minister. He's not going to hand over the reins to someone for a few days just because he's a bit unwell. Hoist by his own [edit] 78 is the atomic number for Platinum, compounds containing which can be used in chemotherapy, making the chemical infinitely more useful than Boris Johnson kingturnip fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:If Boris Jonson dies, Brexit gets canceled, right? The bus must choose a new driver.
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Tarnop posted:Everyone has their own line though, right? At some point a group stops being something that you think can be changed into one worth supporting. For example, you presumably wouldn't advocate to join the Conservative party in order to fight for change from within. The conservative party literally has no mechanism for membership input on policy, and even if it did it is fundamentally antithetical to that cause. It doesn't make a lot of sense to suggest that because labour has gotten worse due to internal elections going badly, that means you should... stop participating in the elections in the future? Like what's the end result? Labour is either a desirable result or a threat, and in neither case does not engaging with it help? You can do whatever you want, you're a free person, but what good does a party utterly devoid of anyone willing to fight for what you want, do you? You can't kill labour by leaving it, unfortunately. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Bardeh posted:this is from the mail, so im not gonna link it: And The Mail of course manages to write that as a puff-piece. He was just so invested in making sure the Queen's speech went down ok, guys!
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Necrothatcher posted:harsh but fair from the Daily Mail Necrothatcher as a name is still eternally great, but I'm looking forward to it becoming "NecroBojo" - even just for a few days.
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Prince John posted:Assuming this is true and not just some puff piece to create a hardworking martyr narrative, it's striking how much little he trusts his subordinates. I don't think anyone in the country would give a proverbial if he went on sick leave for a few days and handed over the reigns to his deputy - it's what the rest of us do. But he's terrified of leaving them in charge. these are Tory MPs we're talking about here, one of them probably wiped their covid snot on their hand before shaking hands with him. I guarantee that there are more than a few of them currently licking their lips about a potential cabinet reshuffle if he croaks it
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Azza Bamboo posted:I think the Lib Dems could well position themselves as the party of turbo trans rights, particularly as this is a wedge issue for Labour that they could drive. The Tories can comfortably say or do gently caress all on the issue and not lose any political capital, so why not? That puts Labour under the heat here. It's a wedge issue for the party's politicians as well as members and voters. I think it's morally the wrong policy, but I won't be surprised if they go for wanting to change the GRA to bring things closer to self identification and away from medicalisation, but doing so with some kind of gesture toward segregating shelters by birth designation. Given that this is the likely outcome, I can absolutely understand if there's a Trexodus should something like this get announced. Oh my goodness me my friend where have you been. The lib-dems are going to be a lot worse for this sort of thing for the simple reason that a lot of the more "out and out" Terf folks are so strongly remainer. The kind of middle class "wine mum" who just wants to get on with things and "doesn't understand why the Trans Lobby has so much influence" is going to be Lib-dem till the end of days.
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cant cook creole bream posted:If Boris Jonson dies, Brexit gets canceled, right? Absolutely not. If anything, it makes turbo suicide no deal more likely, since while Boris couldn't really give a gently caress about Brexit beyond optics, all of his potential successors are lunatic true believers.
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Chuka Umana posted:Hearing word that Lord Mountbatten is now being considered for acting PM Explosive story.
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Chinese Gordon posted:Absolutely not. If anything, it makes turbo suicide no deal more likely, since while Boris couldn't really give a gently caress about Brexit beyond optics, all of his potential successors are lunatic true believers. Yeah, I know. Will be an interesting time.
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Gravastars posted:Boris Johnson has 5 or 6 children, and I hope they all go blind. What? Why?
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Josef bugman posted:What? Why? paternal blond hair flopping in their eyes
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https://twitter.com/phlespp/status/1247260125758468101  [e]: My grandfather sadly passed away on saturday. He did no-one any harm, and did his best to help everyone, even though he was not always in the best of health. Because of the hospital quarantines we were unable to spend his final hours with him, even though the nurses and doctors passed on our messages and did everything they absolutely could to make him comfortable. There can be no cosmic justice, if Johnson - a man who has never done a decent thing in his entire life, used and tossed people aside - doesn't choke on his own piss. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Apr 6, 2020 |
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Chinese Gordon posted:Absolutely not. If anything, it makes turbo suicide no deal more likely, since while Boris couldn't really give a gently caress about Brexit beyond optics, all of his potential successors are lunatic true believers. I'm also a bit worried that any replacement PM will be worse. Say what you like about Bojo, but he does want to be liked by the country, which may well translate into some cash heading towards key workers after this is over. I'd rather have BoJo as PM than Gove, or IDS.
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OwlFancier posted:"I'm not a tory but..." is the same energy as "I'm not racist but..." change my mind They're called "synonyms".
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Josef bugman posted:Whenever you want to. No-one is making you stay, obviously lots of people would prefer if you did, and if you want to leave that's fine. But I think it ignores a lot of people who are trying to do their best. The problem being of course is that we can't know what effect our action or inaction can have until we take it. There's no decision that doesn't let someone down, abandon someone or implicitly dismiss someone's fears. And staying through giving in to inertia is still a decision. Wasn't expecting to have such an ethical crisis over this tbh
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Tarnop posted:There's no decision that doesn't let someone down, abandon someone or implicitly dismiss someone's fears. And staying through giving in to inertia is still a decision. I find it helps if you don't view it as an identity, labour membership is a tool, you can use it without it defining who you are. Your cause is far bigger and far older than the party you use.
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Josef bugman posted:Oh my goodness me my friend where have you been. The lib-dems are going to be a lot worse for this sort of thing for the simple reason that a lot of the more "out and out" Terf folks are so strongly remainer. The kind of middle class "wine mum" who just wants to get on with things and "doesn't understand why the Trans Lobby has so much influence" is going to be Lib-dem till the end of days. They might be Lib Dem until the end of days, but the party has historically been ahead of Labour on trans rights promises. They went into the last election saying that the spousal veto should be abolished and that those who have had their marriages annulled should be able to reinstate them. If their base is TERFs, their base either doesn't know or care what the party has been fighting for. Maybe there's some truth in characterising them as wine mums?
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As much as I'm not going to shed a tear if he does peg it, I also don't want Boris to die, the same as I don't want anyone to die of this thing. There's also the matter of the array of ghouls and freaks lined up behind him to take over.
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Bardeh posted:As much as I'm not going to shed a tear if he does peg it, I also don't want Boris to die, the same as I don't want anyone to die of this thing. There's also the matter of the array of ghouls and freaks lined up behind him to take over. If there was a way this could kill his public career without killing him as a human being, I'd be down for that, but there isn't so I think we'll just have to make the best of what comes.
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OwlFancier posted:I find it helps if you don't view it as an identity, labour membership is a tool, you can use it without it defining who you are. Your cause is far bigger and far older than the party you use. This helps a lot actually. While I'm here, I want to apologise for taking the way I've been feeling out on Azza Bamboo the other day. Azza, disagreeing with your vote was not justification for me to be (as twisto put it) a oval office to you, and lash out with a lot of bad feeling I've been bottling up. Hope you can forgive, but I'd understand if not.
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Gravastars posted:Boris Johnson has 5 or 6 children, and I hope they all go blind. Josef bugman posted:What? Why? It's a Stewart Lee bit that I can't quite recall, something to do with Gordon Brown. It's just a joke, like on Top Gear.
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Chuka Umana posted:Hearing word that Lord Mountbatten is now being considered for acting PM Did a sad lol at this reference.
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Azza Bamboo posted:They might be Lib Dem until the end of days, but the party has historically been ahead of Labour on trans rights promises. They went into the last election saying that the spousal veto should be abolished and that those who have had their marriages annulled should be able to reinstate them. If their base is TERFs, their base either doesn't know or care what the party has been fighting for. Maybe there's some truth in characterising them as wine mums? Promises, but not results or anything close. Plus their entire LGBT section quit not too long ago, I think it was caused by Tim Farron being an active homophobe again. Tarnop posted:There's no decision that doesn't let someone down, abandon someone or implicitly dismiss someone's fears. And staying through giving in to inertia is still a decision. That's life I am afraid. There are no right answers, just knowing that there are ways for people to critisise every choice you've ever made or not made. The test is to work out which ones are important to you. But even those we can't tell. "The people who built this world for us intended it to be better, but they failed." So we have to live with it. Every day.
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evilmiera posted:Also, that article was made in 2018, and his latest girlfriend/fiancé was known to exist, but they hadn't pinpointed who she was yet, only that he was yet again cheating on his wife at the time. Well at least one journalist knew *exactly* who it was.
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I think most of your anger comes from a good place, and to some extent I like being in a place that won't say exactly what I think. Also I was dead wrong on the severity of coronavirus, or the morality of dismissing the lives of "a couple of grannies", which I know was something that stuck in your mind. The only reason I don't forgive you is that, although I felt a bit unwelcome for a time, I never really thought you did anything wrong. You were already in the clear.
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Party Boat posted:Lol no private hospitals are all about elective surgeries and are poo poo at actual life saving stuff, they punt you to the NHS for that Ex boyfriend of mine in the mists of time was Senior Charge Nurse in a private London hospital on permanent nights. He did 7 nights on, 7 off, 13-14 hour shifts by the time they had done handovers, alternating with another SCN. There should have been 3 of them on rotation but the hospital was skimping on salaries. And when he was off, they would often call him in during the day to cover absences. At nights and weekends, the SCN were the most senior people in the hospital. If a situation arose, they had to decide whether to call in the Consultants from their luxury mansions in the Home Counties, and god help if the Consultant turned up and decided it was an unnecessary call. Anything 'emergency' happened, straight to A&E at the nearest NHS hospital.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I think most of your anger comes from a good place, and to some extent I like being in a place that won't say exactly what I think. Also I was dead wrong on the severity of coronavirus, or the morality of dismissing the lives of "a couple of grannies", which I know was something that stuck in your mind. The only reason I don't forgive you is that, although I felt a bit unwelcome for a time, I never really thought you did anything wrong. You were already in the clear. 
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Angepain posted:i don't want boris to die for the sole reason that the daily mail or whatever will find a person on twitter making a joke about it and track them down to their house and print seven pages a day about it for two weeks and drag them into a public square where all members of the public must make a public statement denouncing this behaviour and throw an egg at them or go to jail I saw a tweet about that earlier, can't remember who by, along the lines of "be careful what you tweet tonight in case the right come after you and doxx you". Pistol_Pete posted:Personally, I'd love to see supermarket staff politely but vigorously enforcing keeping the aisles clear and traffic moving along purposefully becoming a permanent thing. Stopping in a chokepoint to stare blankly into space for ten minutes? Blam! £30 fine! And check out assistants who want to be best friends with everyone passing through and spend hours chatting to Mrs Miggins about Bert's lumbago when your frozen veg is all defrosting in the basket.
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Prince John posted:I'm also a bit worried that any replacement PM will be worse. Say what you like about Bojo, but he does want to be liked by the country, which may well translate into some cash heading towards key workers after this is over. I'd rather have BoJo as PM than Gove, or IDS. Gove will at least be in favour of doing something to protect the environment to maximise the population offered up to the Old Ones
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Josef bugman posted:Promises, but not results or anything close. Plus their entire LGBT section quit not too long ago, I think it was caused by Tim Farron being an active homophobe again. That's a fair point. Admittedly my opinions on Lib Dems and trans issues might be skewed: my main source on the goings on of the Lib Dem party is a transwoman Lib Dem member who I sometimes ride motorbikes with, so I am prone to get the most favorable interpretation of things.
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Josef bugman posted:Promises, but not results or anything close. Plus their entire LGBT section quit not too long ago, I think it was caused by Tim Farron being an active homophobe again. It was them accepting the defection of Philip Lee IIRC
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Azza Bamboo posted:That's a fair point. Admittedly my opinions on Lib Dems and trans issues might be skewed: my main source on the goings on of the Lib Dem party is a transwoman Lib Dem member who I sometimes ride motorbikes with, so I am prone to get the most favorable interpretation of things. I didn't know you knew tintower or that she rode motorbikes.
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Bardeh posted:this is from the mail, so im not gonna link it: Not potentially. If he does/is dead then this is death by misadventure. Like literally if he dies there are only two possible explanations; death by misadventure or suicide. Because it was pearly his own deliberate actions that led to him being infected so literally the only logical conclusions are either he was too stupid to properly parse the danger and this is death by misadventure, or he was aware of the danger and deliberately tried to kill himself via disease. Which I have to say isn’t a method of suicide I’ve ever heard of someone employing before.
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